Rate rage roundup - More trouble for Ameren

AG Madigan to investigate Ameren's "all-electric" program Responding to consumer complaints about soaring electric rates, Attorney General Lisa Madigan announced Monday she is investigating the way Ameren Corp. Full Story
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lillie

Belleville, IL

#1 Mar 6, 2007
when will ameren listen to the people. Maybe when they quit getting payments. what do u think folks. maybe we should boycott ameren.
OnTheFence

United States

#2 Mar 6, 2007
You people and your "boycotts".

What you're advocating will get you a damaged credit rating, your electric shut off, and possible prosecution for theft of services.

A true boycott would be calling them up and tell them you don't want to be a customer until they reduce their rates, and to pull your meter.

People cried about rising costs years ago and got their rate freeze. Now it's time to pay the piper. No one can honestly tell me they didn't see this coming.
Jim

Palm Harbor, FL

#3 Mar 7, 2007
Corporations couldn't care less how people are suffering. Really, they are heartless beings along with the politicians they control. Corporations control Dems and Repubs alike so it makes no difference who is in power. We are controlled, weather you believe it or not. It will take a revolution or some revolt to take back our country.
Plainfield Mom

Plainfield, IL

#4 Mar 7, 2007
Jim wrote:
Corporations couldn't care less how people are suffering. Really, they are heartless beings along with the politicians they control. Corporations control Dems and Repubs alike so it makes no difference who is in power. We are controlled, weather you believe it or not. It will take a revolution or some revolt to take back our country.
No offense, but corporations did not open businesses so that they provide services at, or below costs. Alot of these companies have stockholders, you may be one of them, who will chew them up and spit them up if they do not turn a hefty profit. Can you imagine them telling people who invested their hard earned money that they will not be posting profits and that the stock will decline because Jim in Lakeland, Florida says the prices are too high.

I don't like paying for the increase anymore than anyone else, but my god my cell phone, or my cable bill, are almost as much as my electric bill. If the government didn't freeze rates for 10 years, the jump in rates would not be so high.

I know...let's have the government take over all the power companies. Then they can pay someone to turn the power switch on, pay someone that watches them to make sure the power switch is turned on and then someone to verify that someone watched someone turn the switch on. No to mention all the rolling blackouts we will encounter because the people they hired were low life looser relatives of their who don't show up for work and are on the ghost payrolls.

Be careful, because if that' what we all want then the sky will be the limit with rate hikes. Just take a peak at your tax bill. Maybe we need to get rid of government spending and lower your tax bill so you can pay your power bill.
Plainfield Mom

Plainfield, IL

#5 Mar 7, 2007
Why don't all those complaining about a company making a profit pool their money together and buy the power company? This way...you can tie up or loose money by freezing prices for another 10 years and whilst we all benefit.

Any takers?
Bob

Saint Louis, MO

#6 Mar 7, 2007
Plainfield Mom wrote:
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No offense, but corporations did not open businesses so that they provide services at, or below costs. Alot of these companies have stockholders, you may be one of them, who will chew them up and spit them up if they do not turn a hefty profit. Can you imagine them telling people who invested their hard earned money that they will not be posting profits and that the stock will decline because Jim in Lakeland, Florida says the prices are too high.
I don't like paying for the increase anymore than anyone else, but my god my cell phone, or my cable bill, are almost as much as my electric bill. If the government didn't freeze rates for 10 years, the jump in rates would not be so high.
I know...let's have the government take over all the power companies. Then they can pay someone to turn the power switch on, pay someone that watches them to make sure the power switch is turned on and then someone to verify that someone watched someone turn the switch on. No to mention all the rolling blackouts we will encounter because the people they hired were low life looser relatives of their who don't show up for work and are on the ghost payrolls.
Be careful, because if that' what we all want then the sky will be the limit with rate hikes. Just take a peak at your tax bill. Maybe we need to get rid of government spending and lower your tax bill so you can pay your power bill.
Wake Up!!!!
Ameren is making millions before the rate hike. They have been deceitful and mis-leading to everyone. Noone is saying there should not be rate hikes from time to time. Thats Life. However Ameren is taking there rate hikes to another level. A level that is going to be devestating to southern Illinois outside the Chicago Area. And as for as a boycott? Why not. Picketting? Why not. Pressure on politicians? Absolutely! Letters, Blogs & Forums? Why not.
Plainfield Mom

Plainfield, IL

#7 Mar 7, 2007
Bob wrote:
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Wake Up!!!!
Ameren is making millions before the rate hike. They have been deceitful and mis-leading to everyone. Noone is saying there should not be rate hikes from time to time. Thats Life. However Ameren is taking there rate hikes to another level. A level that is going to be devestating to southern Illinois outside the Chicago Area. And as for as a boycott? Why not. Picketting? Why not. Pressure on politicians? Absolutely! Letters, Blogs & Forums? Why not.
I'm all for boycotting and picketting the corporation if you don't like it...what I'm not for is politicians and/or our government freezing/taking control or regulating anything. They've already proved what a mess they've made of things.

We need more power companies, not less, and the government regulating things is a sure fire way to keep competitors from wanting to come here and set-up shop.
lillie

Belleville, IL

#8 Mar 7, 2007
Plainfield mom apparently you haven't been following this issue for very long. I did my research, ameren had this planned as far back as 2004. A rate hike I can accept, but being gouged from both ends I will not accept. and I don't feel I should have to move to Missouri just so I can afford to have a warm home for my children. As for saying "you People," apparently you must live a compfortable life. I have always paid my bill on time with ameren but there is no justification for the bill they sent me this month. If a rate freeze will make them compromise so be it. there stocks doubled in one month thats not business as usual. that is just pure greed. There is no reasoning with someone like you though is there. Let the kids starve, the poor freeze and the feeble die is that to your liking?
Fed-up

Saint Louis, MO

#9 Mar 7, 2007
Plainfield Mom wrote:
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No offense, but corporations did not open businesses so that they provide services at, or below costs. Alot of these companies have stockholders, you may be one of them, who will chew them up and spit them up if they do not turn a hefty profit. Can you imagine them telling people who invested their hard earned money that they will not be posting profits and that the stock will decline because Jim in Lakeland, Florida says the prices are too high.
I don't like paying for the increase anymore than anyone else, but my god my cell phone, or my cable bill, are almost as much as my electric bill. If the government didn't freeze rates for 10 years, the jump in rates would not be so high.
I know...let's have the government take over all the power companies. Then they can pay someone to turn the power switch on, pay someone that watches them to make sure the power switch is turned on and then someone to verify that someone watched someone turn the switch on. No to mention all the rolling blackouts we will encounter because the people they hired were low life looser relatives of their who don't show up for work and are on the ghost payrolls.
Be careful, because if that' what we all want then the sky will be the limit with rate hikes. Just take a peak at your tax bill. Maybe we need to get rid of government spending and lower your tax bill so you can pay your power bill.
I can't believe how calous and cold some people are. Anyone who thinks what Ameren did is appropriate or OK is delusional. Ameren isn't a typical corporation- they are a monopoloy. People need their service and have to choice but to buy it from them. There is no competition and never will be, they need to be fully regulated to protect the population. My electric bill tripled and I already know 2 businesses that are considering closing their doors because they can't afford an extra couple thousand dollars a month. We were expecting a 30-50% increase which was hard enough to stomach. The bottom line is that Ameren lied to us, doesn't care about their customers, and has our politicians in their back pockets. What's wrong with this picture?
Plainfield Mom

Plainfield, IL

#10 Mar 7, 2007
lillie wrote:
Plainfield mom apparently you haven't been following this issue for very long. I did my research, ameren had this planned as far back as 2004. A rate hike I can accept, but being gouged from both ends I will not accept. and I don't feel I should have to move to Missouri just so I can afford to have a warm home for my children. As for saying "you People," apparently you must live a compfortable life. I have always paid my bill on time with ameren but there is no justification for the bill they sent me this month. If a rate freeze will make them compromise so be it. there stocks doubled in one month thats not business as usual. that is just pure greed. There is no reasoning with someone like you though is there. Let the kids starve, the poor freeze and the feeble die is that to your liking?
First, I don't see where I said "you people" in my posting. Second, I do live a comfortable life but that does not make me a bad person. Third, I do care about kids, the poor and the feeble that's why I don't want to see the government get their hands on the controls of any business. By the way, their are programs who help those who truly need it.

Being a business owner myself, I have to fight daily to keep the government, unions, etc. at bay.

The best thing you can do is complain and demand that the government break up this monopoly and force competition in. Freezing rates is only a temp solution and in the long run will do no good.
lillie

Belleville, IL

#11 Mar 7, 2007
the programs you mention are taking a beating by the outrageous rates being demanded of people. i have kept my payment current therefore i am not eligable for emergency assistance. however because of these rate hikes i will probably be without electricity within months because I cannot keep up with these rates. I have done more than complain it's just ameren is so worried about their bottom line. I called them and asked them about the rate being eliminated months ago. they didn't care it would cause chaos or destroy lives, and close businesses. you need to look at your posting again cause you specifically said you people. I would give my right arm to have a flourishing business but i could not defend a business that would make children go to bed hungry and old people suffer and that is what you are doing plainfield mom shame on you
Plainfield Mom

Plainfield, IL

#12 Mar 7, 2007
Sorry, still do not see the "you people" you are referring to.

Also, your can can say all day and night how I want old people to suffer and children to go to bed hungry since your are looking as my posts with tunnel vision.

I'm looking at the big picture and trying to get other companies in here to lower prices and keep them lower by providing competition to this company.

I'm merely stating that if you want your savior, the government, to do something...have them force this monopoly to break up.

I'm sorry about your situation and urge you to continue to look into programs available (maybe on Ameren's site) to help until there is a better solution.

I try to look at long-term solutions and not a quick fix. Let's face it, even if you win this battle and re-freeze rates...eventually the company will either declare bankruptcy and/or not be able to handle demand and we will all be experiencing rolling blackouts. Yes, these companies made record profits, same with the gas companies, but it is my understanding that they use a huge chunk of those profits to reinvest and open new plants. The population, thanks to immigration, is exploding and we need to expand resources...not keep in a holding pattern. These companies need to continue to build new plants.

You've got to look into the future and not live for today only. I hope you do get the help you need.
lillie

Belleville, IL

#13 Mar 7, 2007
sorry you are so closed minded. the money has not beeen reinvested into this company it is for ceos to get bigger pay raises and stockholders to get more money these are widow and orphan stocks they are not expected to pay high yields to begin with. as for wanting a rate freeze it's not the best idea but as far as I can tell its all there is for the time being. freeze the rates for six months and make everyone get reasonable. as for the contracts ameren signed they are not enforcable under federal law so there I watched ten hours of our beurocrats the other night I am very aware of the situation.
Ashley

Belleville, IL

#14 Mar 7, 2007
I am sixteen years old and I am really tired of the electric company telling me that if I want to have a lower bill then to turn the furnace off and cover up.I have been sick on and off just because we can't run the furnace twenty four seven.It gets real cold and on most nights instead of sleeping in my nice confortable bed I have to sleep on a hard couch in the living room so I wont catch phmonia.We got to turn the furnace off when my little sister is at school just so she can be warm when she comes home.I don't want to be pend to my bed all day wrapped in blankets doing nothing because I'm afraid to turn something electric on.I don't even want to get online and talk to my friends.I had to get a job just so I can help my Aunt Lillie pay the bills.The only way I can stay warm half the time is snuggling up to my poor little beagle dog who gets just as cold as I get.Ameran does not care about anyone besides themself.If they did I wouldn't had to have been cold this winter.Mother nature is one thing but the corperations and government system is another.Ameran needs to stop whinning and pointing fingers.The way I see it whoever they decide to blame the state and federal government should bring them to the stand.If none of the workers,presidents,managers,or whatever don't want to compramise then they should lose their job and be replaced with someone who doesn't act like an irresponsable kid and take responsibilities.And all I got to say is please when they keep saying they got to file bankruptcy.Its not like they're going to go out of buisness in case no one has noticed they're the only providers around.Needing extra money to prevent black outs is a joke.Rather we pay 300 or even a thousand dollars a month to the power company WE ARE GOING TO HAVR BLACK OUTS ANYWAYS.In the end its all about people filling their pockets and tossing everyone else to the side.
Plainfield Mom

Plainfield, IL

#15 Mar 8, 2007
Ashley, you sound very smart for a sixteen year old. The only things I'm going to say to you is that we all pay if that company goes into bankruptcy so that is not a good answer either. All I'm saying is that we need to fix the problem permanently and not just for 6-12 months or 10 years for that matter.

I'm not pretenting that Ameren cares about you, me or anybody. They, however, are not one company but made up of several companies. We need to get rid of the monopoly and break it apart.

Hey, and I've been where you are. When my husband and I first got married we lived in an old drafty house and had the thermostat plunge down at night to save money. One thing that saved us was an electric blanket. See if you invest in one of those until there's a solution to this mess.
Ashley

Belleville, IL

#16 Mar 8, 2007
Plainfield Mom wrote:
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No offense, but corporations did not open businesses so that they provide services at, or below costs. Alot of these companies have stockholders, you may be one of them, who will chew them up and spit them up if they do not turn a hefty profit. Can you imagine them telling people who invested their hard earned money that they will not be posting profits and that the stock will decline because Jim in Lakeland, Florida says the prices are too high.
I don't like paying for the increase anymore than anyone else, but my god my cell phone, or my cable bill, are almost as much as my electric bill. If the government didn't freeze rates for 10 years, the jump in rates would not be so high.
I know...let's have the government take over all the power companies. Then they can pay someone to turn the power switch on, pay someone that watches them to make sure the power switch is turned on and then someone to verify that someone watched someone turn the switch on. No to mention all the rolling blackouts we will encounter because the people they hired were low life looser relatives of their who don't show up for work and are on the ghost payrolls.
Be careful, because if that' what we all want then the sky will be the limit with rate hikes. Just take a peak at your tax bill. Maybe we need to get rid of government spending and lower your tax bill so you can pay your power bill.
Let's see PLAINFELD MOM,why are you to much of a coward to use your real name.You can defend ameran all you want but just know that their wouldn't have been a rate freeze issued if they weren't being as greedy back then as they are being now.Do you honestly think they care about you?They don't.Get over it.And taxes shouldn't have to be lowered to let the electric company get what they want.This is America and lets time I check we aren't suppose to let the government push us around.The government or the electric company are not angels.They both had ten years to fix this
Reid Hofmann

United States

#17 Mar 8, 2007
Street wrote:
You people and your "boycotts".
What you're advocating will get you a damaged credit rating, your electric shut off, and possible prosecution for theft of services.
A true boycott would be calling them up and tell them you don't want to be a customer until they reduce their rates, and to pull your meter.
People cried about rising costs years ago and got their rate freeze. Now it's time to pay the piper. No one can honestly tell me they didn't see this coming.
Just moved to Southern Illinois. No I honestly didn't SEE this coming.
Reid Hofmann

United States

#18 Mar 8, 2007
lillie wrote:
when will ameren listen to the people. Maybe when they quit getting payments. what do u think folks. maybe we should boycott ameren.
One can by a 8000 watt generator that will serve almost all your needs. Enough stop using ameren where possible and perhaps change could come about
Reid Hofmann

United States

#19 Mar 8, 2007
Plainfield Mom wrote:
Ashley, you sound very smart for a sixteen year old. The only things I'm going to say to you is that we all pay if that company goes into bankruptcy so that is not a good answer either. All I'm saying is that we need to fix the problem permanently and not just for 6-12 months or 10 years for that matter.
I'm not pretenting that Ameren cares about you, me or anybody. They, however, are not one company but made up of several companies. We need to get rid of the monopoly and break it apart.
Hey, and I've been where you are. When my husband and I first got married we lived in an old drafty house and had the thermostat plunge down at night to save money. One thing that saved us was an electric blanket. See if you invest in one of those until there's a solution to this mess.
Did you say ELECTRIC Blanket?
Reid Hofmann

United States

#20 Mar 8, 2007
Did Plainfield mom say ELECTRIC blanket??? It's the electricity we can't afford. Do they make a Kerosene blanket? Oh that's right. Kerosene is now $3.13 gal.

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