198,000 still without power

About 198,000 Illinois customers of Ameren Corp. remained without electricity Sunday morning as crews from 14 states chipped away at the damage caused by a crippling ice storm. Full Story
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Todd

Edwardsville, IL

#1 Dec 3, 2006
Ameren SUCKS. Unbelievably poor service. No electricity for 3 days and counting... Wondering if cutting back on tree trimmers two years ago was smart on ameren's part (must have been, they have raised rates and continue to make tons of $). Must be great to be a monopoly. If I was this bad at my job, I would be axed.
Clint Cartee

Peoria, IL

#2 Dec 3, 2006
EXACTLY RIGHT. IF I WAS THIS BAD AT MY JOB I WOULD NOT HAVE A JOB. YOU CALL AND CALL AND CALL, AS SOON AS YOU GET SOMEONE, THEY ARE REALLY REALLY RUDE!!!

FRIDGE: 200.00
FREEZER: 150.00
FLUSHING TOILET WITH BOTTLED WATER: 10.00

THERES SOMETHINGS AMEREN IP CAN'T DO: FIX THE POWER

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tony

Woodridge, IL

#3 Dec 4, 2006
leave it to politicians to let this happen..
Heather

AOL

#4 Dec 4, 2006
Are you guys that ignorant. Do you think that 198,000 homes without power can come back on overnight? Do you think that just because your job is for the power company that you should forgo breaks and rest periods or even seeing your children? I am one who has been out since Thursday night. My family has been displaced and am now living in Missouri with relatives til the power comes back on. I do not have relatives working for the elecetric company nor do I know anyone who does. But it really sad that you boys have absolutley no compassion for people who have been working their butts off round the clock jsut to be underappreciated by you. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
Vicky

United States

#5 Dec 4, 2006
You speak of ignorance well. Yes!!!, we all over pay every month to insure that we have guarded and protected electricity. But as with many big corporate money maker scams these days, we pay and pay out our shallow pockets for the best of quality only to be forced to except all but the best. So turn down your mar tor sympathy for the very well paid power company employees. For when they accepted their big paying jobs, they agreed to do so with the responsibilities of forgoing extra breaks , working over time and doing all and more than whats expected of them ,for the well being of all people ( which includes their children ,as well as all other children). As far as compassion ; your "compassion" seems to be as connected as Amerens. Lucky for you , you had a family to take shelter in. Where is your compassion, your defensive protection for those who really need it now; those who are still siting in the cold darkness within the homes they have paid for, paid taxes on , paid power bill on ect., in hopes of siting back and enjoying the holiday magic??? Or the people , the families cramped together siting in hotel rooms with nothing but worries ,such as their food in their homes rotting; while you sit all comfy worrying and defending the strongest. Do a favor for the good of all Heather, check your self into reality
Sassafras

Springfield, IL

#6 Dec 4, 2006
Wonder how they are going to justify the 55% increase this time................
upset

Columbia, IL

#7 Dec 5, 2006
that is the truth sassafras most people can barley make it on what they do make. 6.50 an hour that is only enough to maybe pay one bill and gas for the week. and some people have rent, car note, gas and electric bill with only making that much if they keep raising prices like this they are going to send our economy into another great depression, its just terrible and it makes me sick.
tony

Woodridge, IL

#8 Dec 5, 2006
Well, we have ComEd, they are crying for more money, and will go bankrupt.. right.. after posting billion dollar profit.. Ladies and gentlemen.. The Ghost of Enron is upon us all!!!
Here is a box of kleenex

Decatur, IL

#9 Dec 5, 2006
Ameren is doing a VERY good job!! You think 3 days is bad, how bad was it for you in 1978? We were without power for 2 weeks so quit your whining. I bet you're not out there for 16-18 hours per day in the cold listening to people B**** all day long because they weren't prepared for the storm though they had plenty of notice it was coming. It's not Ameren's fault that you weren't smart enough to buy back up power and heat supplies. Here's a box of kleenex.
lou

United States

#10 Dec 5, 2006
cant fight mother nature people,crap happens,lots of guys out in the freezing cold trying to restore power
Here is a box of kleenex

United States

#11 Dec 5, 2006
Amen to that Lou :)
SueNWaverly

Ashburn, VA

#12 Dec 5, 2006
We just got our power back last night. We live in the country and have a toddler and animals too. There's 6 of us. I have seen the crews out there working their butts off freezing too. Give them a freaking break!

Wonder how many new babies there will be popping out in 9 months?:) All this snuggling dontcha know.
Reply to SueNWaverly

Decatur, IL

#13 Dec 6, 2006
Glad you got your power back - Amen! It's nice to see that there is appreciation out there for these men and women working their butts off.
Take Care.
Forum Jumper

Saint Louis, MO

#14 Dec 6, 2006
Looks To Me Like the are talking about the corporate Workers not the ameren Laborers.
We Do pay High Dollar For our Power, they never Should have laid of So many workers.
Nope we sure can't Control Mother Nature, But at the same time not everyone can Afford to By Generators, Etc.
So Make the best of what you doi have and Spend that Quility time wiht your family Get to know your kids again. Talk play a game it will take your mind off the cold.
and if you see a ameren worker think about how cold he is. With no family to go home to that night cause he has to keep working.
It is the Head people you should be mad at.
anyway when it is this cold how does you food spoil? this last July I understand but now? My Mother put her food outside on her back deck it stayed frozen, and if its that cold in your house you fridge should stay colder now than in The summer heat.
upset

Columbia, IL

#15 Dec 6, 2006
im not talking about the workers i am talking about the prices. I think they are doing the best they can they will get all the power back on it just takes a little time. Its the same way with gas prices i cant be mad at the people that work at gas stations because the dont change the prices they just work their and they have to buy gas just like we do, and so on with the ameren workers they have to pay for electric just like we do. i just dont agree with the price rates. before you know it our electric bill will be more that our house note or car note.
Sassafras

Springfield, IL

#16 Dec 6, 2006
It's not the "blue collar" workers, they also have to pay the price, it is the high and mighty execs who continue to make big profits off of us. Everyone appreciates the work that these men and women are doing and not in the best environment at that. Thank you men and women of Ameren for working as hard and as diligently as you can to restore the power. It is the higher ups whom everyone is mad at.

There is an article in the Southern Illinoisan this morning about how Illinois' politicians are some of the highest paid in the country. Go figure!! I think we all pretty much knew that, what with all the jobs that are gone from southern Illinois, politicking is the only thing left and it is a pretty lucrative job.
PST

United States

#17 Dec 6, 2006
Sassafras wrote:
It's not the "blue collar" workers, they also have to pay the price, it is the high and mighty execs who continue to make big profits off of us. Everyone appreciates the work that these men and women are doing and not in the best environment at that. Thank you men and women of Ameren for working as hard and as diligently as you can to restore the power. It is the higher ups whom everyone is mad at.
There is an article in the Southern Illinoisan this morning about how Illinois' politicians are some of the highest paid in the country. Go figure!! I think we all pretty much knew that, what with all the jobs that are gone from southern Illinois, politicking is the only thing left and it is a pretty lucrative job.
Got that one right Sass. I'm a state employee and my wages have been frozen for over 10 years..not even a cost of living raise. Then all these Senators and Reps. vote themselves a raise...makes my blood boil to the point that i can make myself physically sick if i dont do something to take my mind off the subject. These poor men and women working out in the cold from daylight to sundown trying to restore power to all these people have to right out a check for their own power bills from home the same as we all do.
BlueCollar Lineman Wife

United States

#18 Dec 6, 2006
As the wife of an Ameren Lineman let me tell you something honey. Those lineman do make a good wage and earn every red cent of it. They don't get out their and drag around and half-ass their job or you would not have power as quickly as you do. Those working the lines do know what to expect when they take the job but they also go above and beyond. They may be dismissed after 18 hours on the job but choose to finish one more job to get power on for just a few more people before they stop for the night. The men from my area left nice warm homes WITH power to fix yours. They leave spouses with cancer, sick children, miss out on birthdays and holiday gatherings, etc because they are doing their job. They don't expect a pat on the back but they don't need a kick in the teeth. We don't get our power on any sooner than anyone else and we sure don't get a discount on our rates, we pay the same as you do. Maybe if you would give them a kind work or a smile instead of scowl you would feel better about yourself.
Vicky wrote:
You speak of ignorance well. Yes!!!, we all over pay every month to insure that we have guarded and protected electricity. But as with many big corporate money maker scams these days, we pay and pay out our shallow pockets for the best of quality only to be forced to except all but the best. So turn down your mar tor sympathy for the very well paid power company employees. For when they accepted their big paying jobs, they agreed to do so with the responsibilities of forgoing extra breaks , working over time and doing all and more than whats expected of them ,for the well being of all people ( which includes their children ,as well as all other children). As far as compassion ; your "compassion" seems to be as connected as Amerens. Lucky for you , you had a family to take shelter in. Where is your compassion, your defensive protection for those who really need it now; those who are still siting in the cold darkness within the homes they have paid for, paid taxes on , paid power bill on ect., in hopes of siting back and enjoying the holiday magic??? Or the people , the families cramped together siting in hotel rooms with nothing but worries ,such as their food in their homes rotting; while you sit all comfy worrying and defending the strongest. Do a favor for the good of all Heather, check your self into reality
Sassafras

Springfield, IL

#19 Dec 6, 2006
PST wrote:
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Got that one right Sass. I'm a state employee and my wages have been frozen for over 10 years..not even a cost of living raise. Then all these Senators and Reps. vote themselves a raise...makes my blood boil to the point that i can make myself physically sick if i dont do something to take my mind off the subject. These poor men and women working out in the cold from daylight to sundown trying to restore power to all these people have to right out a check for their own power bills from home the same as we all do.
Jim Muir had on his radio program tonight that the pay raise went from $57,000 to $68,000, wouldn't it be nice to be able to give yourself a raise with the raise of your own hand. I think they should put a vote to the constituents and see how they would vote, it might be a decrease in pay for all they have done for southern Illinois. This country is really in a bad way and I truly think we can thank the politicians for that.
Missing the Point

Bethalto, IL

#20 Dec 6, 2006
I want to know why Ameren's profits are so high when they aren't up to date on maintenance.
Ameren got low marks for reliability
Belleville News-Democrat
BY ALIANA RAMOS
August 06, 2006
It is important to remember that Illinois Power was acquired by Ameren in the fourth quarter of 2004
Not only do power outages happen frequently in the metro-east, but they last a long time compared to other parts of Illinois, according to the most recent Illinois Commerce Commission staff reports.
And while weather appears to be a large contributor to the high number of outages and system interruptions, it's not the sole cause.
AmerenIP serves more than 200,000 customers in St. Clair, Madison, Bond, Clinton, Washington, Monroe and Randolph counties, including communities such as Granite City, Brooklyn, Venice, Madison, Belleville and New Athens. It had 23,380 interruptions in 2004.
According to ICC staff reports from 2004 -- the most recent year the reports are available, of the 23,380 interruptions: 6,892 were caused by weather; 3,468 were animal related; 5,707 were intentional; 3,133 were related to equipment; and 1,178 were tree-related. The remaining 3002 were attributed to various other causes, determined and undetermined.
'It is important to remember that Illinois Power was acquired by Ameren in the fourth quarter of 2004,' Ameren spokesman Erica Abbett stated in an e-mailed comment for the story.'As we have said before, Illinois Power was a distressed utility property. Since, 2004, we have invested a significant amount of money in the utility to bring the reliability of that property to Ameren standards.'
The Illinois Commerce Commission found at least 13 National Electric Safety Code Violations in 2004, all of which it said posed 'a threat to service reliability and public safety.'
Abbett said all the code violations have been addressed. The ICC will review the changes in the 2005 report.
AmerenIP spent $1.2 million for tree-trimming in 2004,$1.31 million in 2005 and plans to spend $1.34 million in 2006 and $1.37 million in 2007.
'The amounts budgeted for 2006 and 2007 are, at best, only inflationary increases.... Staff noted some improvement in AmerenIP's tree trimming during this past year, but AmerenIP still has significant work to do to achieve and maintain a four-year (minimum) tree-trimming cycle,' the 2004 ICC staff report states.
Out of the nine electric utilities companies regulated by the ICC, AmerenUE (now AmerenCIPS) had the third-worst ranking for system average interruptions for 2004.
It also had the longest average time a customer goes without power during an service interruption -- 4.6 hours. AmerenIP customers waited an average of 4.5 hours without power, the same year.
U.S. Sen. Jim Talent, R-Mo., has called for state and federal authorities to investigate whether Ameren's electricity grid meets federal guidelines for reliability.

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