Stolen guns likely in big city

Stolen guns likely in big city

There are 32 comments on the Public Opinion story from Jan 10, 2009, titled Stolen guns likely in big city. In it, Public Opinion reports that:

Randy Eigenbrode said there isn't much more security they could add that would have stopped the burglary at the Keystone Country Store in Fort Loudon Tuesday.

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Since: Jan 08

Chambersburg, PA

#1 Jan 11, 2009
So a co-owner claims a burglar alarm and surveillance system is "about as good as you can get" when it comes to securing firearms, yet the state police recommend a gun safe for those storing firearms at home?

Sure seems like something other than two layers of glass (one at the door, one at the counter) might be in order at businesses which stock large numbers of firearms.

If my home experiences a 'smash and grab', but my alarm went off, and I captured the perpetrators on film, do you think I'd be noted as being a "responsible" gun owner?
Will

United States

#2 Jan 11, 2009
Since the average gun owner probably owns less than ten guns, a safe isn't a problem, but in a store which might have several hundred it becomes problematic. If you can get to YOUR guns, so can somebody else, nothings foolproof. To your last question, Yes; if you had the actors on film and knew immediately via your alarm that they had been stolen, I'd say you were responsible. Not much more could be done except constant surveillance.

Since: Jan 08

Chambersburg, PA

#3 Jan 11, 2009
You must know a different 'average gun owner' than I do.

Furthermore, long guns (which weren't the target here) are easily secured in place with a cable or chain. Handguns, which are the preferred target of criminals, can be stored in a much smaller space. I've been in this store, and I know their case. There are less than 100 handguns in the glass case.

Even moving them to a store room with a steel door and deadbolt would be a big improvement. The display case is just that - for "display", not security.

“::..definitely maybe..::”

Since: Aug 08

Chambersburg, PA

#4 Jan 11, 2009
Those guns are long gone.
Will

United States

#5 Jan 11, 2009
You have a point with the handguns but did you ever cut a cable or chain? Not much of deterent. I can imagine trying to thread a 3/4 inch cable or chain thru the just slightly larger trigger guard of a shotgun or rifle, most of which don't line up straight. Why not just put up life size color pictures of the guns and sell on an as ordered basis.

Until EVERY gun crime is punished to the extent of the law, we won't see a decrease in theft of firearms or the use of firearms in crime. If you look at the rap sheets of these hoods, one disturbing fact stands out: Charges for gun crimes are often dropped or plea bargained away in favor of drug charges. Why, I don't know, I have hunches but if you do the crime, you should do the time. But that leads to overcrowding in the prisons and our politically correct leaders think we should let them out early to save money. The recidivism rate(repeat offenders) is 48 percent and the state has gone on record reporting that's an acceptable number. But I digress, we're talking about preventing gun thefts. If somebody wants something of yours bad enough, they will stop at nothing to get it. They could have just as easily hit during store hours and shot their way out. Hardly anyone robs banks at night anymore.

Since: Aug 08

Shippensburg, PA

#7 Jan 11, 2009
I seen on another news link that they arrested two people and have recovered some of the guns but they are still looking for two others.
Rocket Man

Shippensburg, PA

#8 Jan 11, 2009
Will wrote:
You have a point with the handguns but did you ever cut a cable or chain? Not much of deterent. I can imagine trying to thread a 3/4 inch cable or chain thru the just slightly larger trigger guard of a shotgun or rifle, most of which don't line up straight. Why not just put up life size color pictures of the guns and sell on an as ordered basis.
Until EVERY gun crime is punished to the extent of the law, we won't see a decrease in theft of firearms or the use of firearms in crime. If you look at the rap sheets of these hoods, one disturbing fact stands out: Charges for gun crimes are often dropped or plea bargained away in favor of drug charges. Why, I don't know, I have hunches but if you do the crime, you should do the time. But that leads to overcrowding in the prisons and our politically correct leaders think we should let them out early to save money. The recidivism rate(repeat offenders) is 48 percent and the state has gone on record reporting that's an acceptable number. But I digress, we're talking about preventing gun thefts. If somebody wants something of yours bad enough, they will stop at nothing to get it. They could have just as easily hit during store hours and shot their way out. Hardly anyone robs banks at night anymore.
I like the working of your post, especially the part where you "digressed". That is one of the major roots of the problem. Hardened criminals know what their likely punishment will be if caught and it ain't bad.
who

Newville, PA

#9 Jan 11, 2009
8 guns recovered so far. 2 punks from mcconnellsburg and 2 punks from fort Loudon. Fort Loudon has now become a "BIG CITY"
confounded

Fort Wayne, IN

#10 Jan 11, 2009
Fort Loudon punks...How about Fort Loudon rug rats.
Here it is

Wilmington, DE

#11 Jan 11, 2009
Three charged in Pa. robbery

January 10, 2009

ST. THOMAS, Pa.— Three men have been charged in connection with an armed robbery Thursday night at the St. Thomas ball fields in Franklin County, Pa., according to a Pennsylvania State Police press release.

Jason Rogers and Chadwyn Rogers, both of St. Thomas, were charged with one count each of robbery, conspiracy to commit robbery and theft, police said.

Jason Eugene Benedict of Lemasters, Pa., was charged with one count each of conspiracy to commit robbery and conspiracy to commit theft, police said.

Jason and Chadwyn Rogers allegedly approached Benedict and a woman whom Benedict was with and stole money after pulling a handgun, police said. Jason and Chadwyn Rogers then fled and were arrested Friday morning at a home on Main Street in Fayetteville, Pa., police said.

It later was determined Benedict also was involved in the robbery, police said.

Preliminary hearings are scheduled for Jan. 20 at 1 p.m
Here it is

Wilmington, DE

#12 Jan 11, 2009
Not from Ft Loudon or Mcconnellsburg...
who wrote:
8 guns recovered so far. 2 punks from mcconnellsburg and 2 punks from fort Loudon. Fort Loudon has now become a "BIG CITY"
Smoke and Sunshine

Schuylkill Haven, PA

#13 Jan 11, 2009
Here it is wrote:
Three charged in Pa. robbery
January 10, 2009
ST. THOMAS, Pa.— Three men have been charged in connection with an armed robbery Thursday night at the St. Thomas ball fields in Franklin County, Pa., according to a Pennsylvania State Police press release.
Jason Rogers and Chadwyn Rogers, both of St. Thomas, were charged with one count each of robbery, conspiracy to commit robbery and theft, police said.
Jason Eugene Benedict of Lemasters, Pa., was charged with one count each of conspiracy to commit robbery and conspiracy to commit theft, police said.
Jason and Chadwyn Rogers allegedly approached Benedict and a woman whom Benedict was with and stole money after pulling a handgun, police said. Jason and Chadwyn Rogers then fled and were arrested Friday morning at a home on Main Street in Fayetteville, Pa., police said.
It later was determined Benedict also was involved in the robbery, police said.
Preliminary hearings are scheduled for Jan. 20 at 1 p.m
This has nothing to do with Keystone being robbed.
Here it is

Wilmington, DE

#14 Jan 11, 2009
Smoke and Sunshine wrote:
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This has nothing to do with Keystone being robbed.
My understanding is that the guns taken from these fellows was traced back to Keystone.
Obama

Atlanta, GA

#15 Jan 11, 2009
Looks like Obama is getting an early start on taking guns away.
Frank Wright

Atlanta, GA

#16 Jan 11, 2009
It boils down to piss poor management on the part of the owner.
Ever heard of survailance?
Imagine how many kids will kill each other now using these?
IN THE KNOW

Elizabethtown, PA

#17 Jan 11, 2009
Here It Is: U R SOOOO WRONG!!! NBC 25 has the names of the guys who were arrested. Also still looking for 2 more guys. McConnellsburg made the news again!!!
jtb- messiah

Minneapolis, MN

#18 Jan 11, 2009
Take the punks out in the parking lot and give them 2 slugs to the head. Stops crime and their families have finality. Besides, it's the Cumberland Valley way of justice. BTW, let their bodies lie there for 72 hours as a lesson for other criminals in the area.
the voice of reason

Newville, PA

#19 Jan 11, 2009
Here we go again,,,,good old p.o. on top of things. geesh! 25alive already has the names and details and the po is still in the dark ages! Some things never change!
AnonyMouse

Newville, PA

#20 Jan 11, 2009
jtb- messiah wrote:
Take the punks out in the parking lot and give them 2 slugs to the head. Stops crime and their families have finality. Besides, it's the Cumberland Valley way of justice. BTW, let their bodies lie there for 72 hours as a lesson for other criminals in the area.
Trying out a new handle, jtb?
anon

Harrisburg, PA

#21 Jan 12, 2009
they caught the people

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