AirTran suspends pilot who wore uniform to circus

Mar 28, 2009 | Posted by: airliner | Full story: www.bizjournals.com

AirTran Airways suspended one of its pilots for wearing his uniform to the circus in Atlanta, according to the National Pilots Association .

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Since: May 08

Santee CA

#1 Mar 29, 2009
He could have taken off his jacket, or removed his wings. There are ways. I think someone was gunning for this guy. AA regs state the ramp uniform cannot be worn in a bar. That rule has been broken often and no one cares until they want to get a guy for something. Then they pull out the never enforced till now card.
Brown Sugar

Mckinney, TX

#2 Mar 29, 2009
This is a chickenshit deal. Castrate the snitch who reported this pilot.

Since: May 08

Santee CA

#3 Mar 29, 2009
Brown Sugar wrote:
This is a chickenshit deal. Castrate the snitch who reported this pilot.
That's the wasy I read into it, this pilot had someone gunning for him. He took a chance and the wrong guy saw him. Not sure why you would be forbidden from being at a circus with your family in uniform. The military would encourage it. Bar,strip club, political rally (someone could view it as the opinion of the company/ union) sure, but I guess I need to read the AirTran rule book.
Chuck

Saint Louis, MO

#4 Mar 30, 2009
He thought that he was performing!!!
Brown Sugar

Mckinney, TX

#5 Mar 30, 2009
Prost wrote:
<quoted text> That's the wasy I read into it, this pilot had someone gunning for him. He took a chance and the wrong guy saw him. Not sure why you would be forbidden from being at a circus with your family in uniform. The military would encourage it. Bar,strip club, political rally (someone could view it as the opinion of the company/ union) sure, but I guess I need to read the AirTran rule book.
If he, in fact, was enroute to work and just dropped his family off; then a first-semester law student should be able to get him re-instated, or better yet, the NPA should have NO trouble nailing this down. This matter should NEVER have been acted upon in the first place. There are exceptions to EVERY rule; and good and proper justification for bending the rules at times when safety is not compromised. Certainly, safety was not an issue in this case.
fly me to the moon

Chicago, IL

#6 Mar 30, 2009
ValuJet sucks!
Captain Over

United States

#7 Mar 31, 2009
While the suspended pilot was at Phillips Arena, it looks like his NPA buddies, Baker and Hillman, were performing a circus act of their own, and found out the public forum is the Wrong Arena to hold your disputes in.

Perhaps they should try using these phrases in their press releases to help foster public sympathy:

"... dropping off his wife and two young children", "... wanted to spend time with his family", and "will soon be deployed overseas".

That way, it will look like AirTran's management is really beating up on a hero. John Q Public certainly isnt smart enough to know otherwise.
Brown Sugar

Mckinney, TX

#8 Mar 31, 2009
Captain Over wrote:
While the suspended pilot was at Phillips Arena, it looks like his NPA buddies, Baker and Hillman, were performing a circus act of their own, and found out the public forum is the Wrong Arena to hold your disputes in.
Perhaps they should try using these phrases in their press releases to help foster public sympathy:
"... dropping off his wife and two young children", "... wanted to spend time with his family", and "will soon be deployed overseas".
That way, it will look like AirTran's management is really beating up on a hero. John Q Public certainly isnt smart enough to know otherwise.
It is very difficult for JQP to be enlightened, or smart enough, without the hard, cold facts. But regardless, does this apparent minor rule violation warrant a suspension, or would a good stiff kick in the form of a warning, or written reprimand do the trick? Does the punishment fit the crime? Is this pilot being treated fairly? Is this more of the same ole management/labor discord? Any real answers?
Wowsa

Belton, MO

#9 Mar 31, 2009
For a management team to be spending time on this kind of issue worries me. Airtran lost a LOT of money last year. Instead of working towards meaningful projects they spend their time and resources going after one pilot? As an investor I believe I would pull my money. Seem to have an ego larger than their brains.
Brown Sugar

Mckinney, TX

#10 Mar 31, 2009
Wowsa wrote:
For a management team to be spending time on this kind of issue worries me. Airtran lost a LOT of money last year. Instead of working towards meaningful projects they spend their time and resources going after one pilot? As an investor I believe I would pull my money. Seem to have an ego larger than their brains.
Good managers are few and far between any more, whether government, corporate, or private sector.
excalibur

United States

#11 Mar 31, 2009
Put the clown back up in the air.
V1Cut

United States

#12 Apr 1, 2009
He thought he was at work...
Management lover

Selinsgrove, PA

#13 Apr 1, 2009
Captain Over is from Orlando....hmmmm. Probably one of Airtran's senior management. Airtran has the type of management that would actually take the time to post a comment on here. Unfortunately I am not exaggerating. Airtran's pilot group is a very docile pilot group (until this action). Their contract expired alomost 5 YEARS AGO!!!! They haven't ever picketed until this April 13th at the Atlanta Airport. If management wants games played they may get the challenge they are looking for.
lacosta

Florence, SC

#14 Apr 3, 2009
fly me to the moon wrote:
ValuJet sucks!
airtran--valujet can crash a plane in the everglades and wants sympothy from everyone, yet what harm is a pilot wearing his uniform going to the circus? sounds like someone has forgotton the past.If I am on his jury trial, airtran is going to pay this guy to NOT have to fly EVER AGAIN
Dumb A-- Police

Newnan, GA

#15 Apr 3, 2009
lacosta wrote:
<quoted text>
airtran--valujet can crash a plane in the everglades and wants sympothy from everyone, yet what harm is a pilot wearing his uniform going to the circus? sounds like someone has forgotton the past.If I am on his jury trial, airtran is going to pay this guy to NOT have to fly EVER AGAIN
Check the facts, ladumbass. The idiot pilots at Airtran are payin for enough deadbeat pilots to not fly anymore. They are like a rudderless dinghy in the ocean. They have no leadership.
Too bad you weren't on Delta 191, you wouldn't be wasting out time now, sir-nah, dumb a$$. Book'em Danno!
Brown Sugar

Mckinney, TX

#16 Apr 4, 2009
Captain Over wrote:
While the suspended pilot was at Phillips Arena, it looks like his NPA buddies, Baker and Hillman, were performing a circus act of their own, and found out the public forum is the Wrong Arena to hold your disputes in.
Perhaps they should try using these phrases in their press releases to help foster public sympathy:
"... dropping off his wife and two young children", "... wanted to spend time with his family", and "will soon be deployed overseas".
That way, it will look like AirTran's management is really beating up on a hero. John Q Public certainly isnt smart enough to know otherwise.
I'm convinced there is a lot more to this matter than that which has been printed and posted here. If the pilot was a chance-taker, checking the fence (rules) to ascertain if there was a gap, or opening, or weak spot, as some are prone to do; then perhaps he was asking for punishment....and it appears he may well get it. Outta here. Have a great weekend, all.

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