insightful

Columbus, OH

#141 Oct 25, 2013
The family needs to grow up! Get a job! Get away! I heard that BS would try to destroy the Church if he couldn't have it. Well it looks like that is what he is trying to do. BS, Ask for forgiveness, repent, and move on! You are no longer the pastor, your kids no longer work there, there is no reason for you to continue to harass people and threaten them. KS, BS, PS, MS should face criminal charges and just might. If they falsified any documents, it is a good possibility they will! If they were smart, they would help to rebuild the church and not make so many enemies that can see all the finances. I will be happy when the finances come out so people can see why the board did what they did. your tithes should not go to the Smiths 110 dollar jeans, expensive cars, fancy lifestyles, eating out, etc etc etc.... Welcome the real world Smiths!
Parent

Columbus, OH

#142 Oct 25, 2013
Please understand that the Fall Fest last night was the annual fundraiser for the school ( Polaris Christian Academy). It had nothing to do with the church. The school's finances are completely separate from the church's finances - thank goodness! The Fall Fest was put on by PCA, NOT TCAP.

And the gates were open so people could come to the Fall Fest - not to make it convenient for the neighborhood people to cut through again. The school parking lot was an incredibly dangerous place before the gates were closed. I am so thankful that I can walk through the school parking lot this school year with my little ones and not be worried about being run over by someone driving way too fast as they cut through private property!
tired of the BS too

Dublin, OH

#143 Oct 25, 2013
Parent wrote:
Please understand that the Fall Fest last night was the annual fundraiser for the school ( Polaris Christian Academy). It had nothing to do with the church. The school's finances are completely separate from the church's finances - thank goodness! The Fall Fest was put on by PCA, NOT TCAP.
And the gates were open so people could come to the Fall Fest - not to make it convenient for the neighborhood people to cut through again. The school parking lot was an incredibly dangerous place before the gates were closed. I am so thankful that I can walk through the school parking lot this school year with my little ones and not be worried about being run over by someone driving way too fast as they cut through private property!
totally agree with the gates (don't want to go down that road again of debate),,was just saying, that to me when i saw the gate open for an event- it was nice- to me it symbolized progress, bc if BS was there he would have had guards out there i am sure...

speaking of which..is my understanding that there is a cut through from his house to the apartments then to the church..for easy access ..hmmm interesting.
Truth

Lebanon, OH

#144 Oct 25, 2013
tired of the BS too wrote:
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speaking of which..is my understanding that there is a cut through from his house to the apartments then to the church..for easy access ..hmmm interesting.

That is correct and can clearly be seen in person or Google maps. I would consider that illegal zoning.
Hypocrites

United States

#145 Oct 25, 2013
Truth wrote:
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That is correct and can clearly be seen in person or Google maps. I would consider that illegal zoning.
so I would HOPE he or they are NOT trespassing on PRIVATE property!!
interesting ---

Dublin, OH

#146 Oct 25, 2013
1400 Gemini Place Columbus, oh -- thats ToysRUs ..use google maps..change ur option to "satellite"..then go a little north, you'll see an access road from the NW side of the condos to a rather large house...but I am sure BS had that built into the plans when the condos were built/land purchased - but TCAP never saw the $$ for that Im sure..
talk

Columbus, OH

#147 Oct 25, 2013
interesting --- wrote:
1400 Gemini Place Columbus, oh -- thats ToysRUs ..use google maps..change ur option to "satellite"..then go a little north, you'll see an access road from the NW side of the condos to a rather large house...but I am sure BS had that built into the plans when the condos were built/land purchased - but TCAP never saw the $$ for that Im sure..
That would be illegal wouldnt it?
talk

Columbus, OH

#148 Oct 25, 2013
Parent wrote:
Please understand that the Fall Fest last night was the annual fundraiser for the school ( Polaris Christian Academy). It had nothing to do with the church. The school's finances are completely separate from the church's finances - thank goodness! The Fall Fest was put on by PCA, NOT TCAP.
And the gates were open so people could come to the Fall Fest - not to make it convenient for the neighborhood people to cut through again. The school parking lot was an incredibly dangerous place before the gates were closed. I am so thankful that I can walk through the school parking lot this school year with my little ones and not be worried about being run over by someone driving way too fast as they cut through private property!
hhmmm, maybe it will be safer without a road raged maniac driving thru since there is a RTO to keep him out.
interesting ---

Dublin, OH

#149 Oct 25, 2013
you would think,,,or put a gate there????? and then if anyone crosses it - ya get the right to smack em?
Hypocrites

United States

#150 Oct 25, 2013
interesting --- wrote:
you would think,,,or put a gate there????? and then if anyone crosses it - ya get the right to smack em?
yes you can open hand slap them. So Wyatt Erp of him and I don't see Wyatt Erp deleting posts because he can't answer them. Can't find the right lie? Only a coward would do the things you do. A real man of God would just confess his sins and make a mends not resort to threatening people. Grow up and act your age.
BS full of BS

Columbus, OH

#151 Oct 25, 2013
interesting --- wrote:
1400 Gemini Place Columbus, oh -- thats ToysRUs ..use google maps..change ur option to "satellite"..then go a little north, you'll see an access road from the NW side of the condos to a rather large house...but I am sure BS had that built into the plans when the condos were built/land purchased - but TCAP never saw the $$ for that Im sure..
Rather large indeed. 3273 sq. ft. worth $424,400 according to the auditor's site. Says the church bought it in 2003 for $388,300 (2003 appraisal value $407,700) then the Smith's bought it in 2005 for $38,800 less (even though the appraisal value had risen $44,200 to $451,900). That's a significant personal gain for BS and a loss for the church. Criminal.
Hopeful

Columbus, OH

#152 Oct 25, 2013
The remaining pastors and staff are dedicated and faithful. They've selected some good new leadership team members with strong financial acumen and integrity. They can pick up the pieces with support from members. There is a lot more good than bad, and the church is worth fighting for. Let's look forward, not back, and work hard for the good of our church!
Whatever

United States

#153 Oct 25, 2013
Hopeful wrote:
The remaining pastors and staff are dedicated and faithful. They've selected some good new leadership team members with strong financial acumen and integrity. They can pick up the pieces with support from members. There is a lot more good than bad, and the church is worth fighting for. Let's look forward, not back, and work hard for the good of our church!
thats not true, SB was right there with them and so was the worship leader until it affected them personally. Then all the sudden they get righteous.
truth

Powell, OH

#154 Oct 25, 2013
I hope TCAP has secured a forensic accountant to examine the books. When the church was turned over to BS it was debt free and there were several hundred thousand dollars in the bank/investments. The church owned 120 acres of land but it has since been mostly sold off and the property is mortgaged. Someone needs to find out where all the millions of dollars has gone since the church members will be stuck with the debt.
Im with Whatever

Columbus, OH

#155 Oct 25, 2013
This blog reminds me of the game of telephone. It is manipulated, construed, and added to with each person it passes through to the point that it is now a gross misrepresentation of the truth. I don't recall the insurance ever being canceled and billls not getting paid when the Smiths were in charge. Also, if you the think the Smiths were overpaid why don't you ask the rest of the staff what they are being paid since they are so "open and honest" about the finances. I think you all would floored with what they are taking home for working much less than 40 hours a week with Fridays off as well. Don't judge when you don't have the facts.
Whatever

Columbus, OH

#156 Oct 25, 2013
Maybe someone need to contact the IRS? Just sayin
CareFree

Columbus, OH

#157 Oct 25, 2013
This is so F____ Up. I'm loving it. The smiths trying to act like normal people here to justify the stealing. Amen
Really

Columbus, OH

#158 Oct 25, 2013
Im with Whatever wrote:
This blog reminds me of the game of telephone. It is manipulated, construed, and added to with each person it passes through to the point that it is now a gross misrepresentation of the truth. I don't recall the insurance ever being canceled and billls not getting paid when the Smiths were in charge. Also, if you the think the Smiths were overpaid why don't you ask the rest of the staff what they are being paid since they are so "open and honest" about the finances. I think you all would floored with what they are taking home for working much less than 40 hours a week with Fridays off as well. Don't judge when you don't have the facts.
um yea well, isn't BS and Kim the one who "set " the salary. Again the smiths not taking responsibility for their actions.
ORGANIZED RELIGION

San Juan Capistrano, CA

#159 Oct 25, 2013
Organized religion...the tip of the iceberg with how mankind has gotten it SO WRONG... Objective, CONNECTED minds understand that this all is just the way of it- almost inconceivably unfolding in an imperfect yet astonishingly perfect world. You waste time and precious mental energy venting frustration, allegations, and all manner of useless tripe. The matter that lies at the center of this..."circumstance " is a matter of our perception...and in reality of your OWN doing. Is it a good thing or a bad thing?- pretty black and white. I would suggest to all that this is a good thing- lessons for all who choose to remain awake enough to understand it. I suspect those who understand the beauty of it waste little or no time reliving or blaming or condemning...or posting on a web site. They simply move forward doing THEIR very best and letting all other souls walk their own path...Maybe a good idea would be to try an do YOUR best to be YOUR very best PERIOD. All else will resolve- PROMISE!
what

Columbia Station, OH

#160 Oct 25, 2013
Im with Whatever wrote:
This blog reminds me of the game of telephone. It is manipulated, construed, and added to with each person it passes through to the point that it is now a gross misrepresentation of the truth. I don't recall the insurance ever being canceled and billls not getting paid when the Smiths were in charge. Also, if you the think the Smiths were overpaid why don't you ask the rest of the staff what they are being paid since they are so "open and honest" about the finances. I think you all would floored with what they are taking home for working much less than 40 hours a week with Fridays off as well. Don't judge when you don't have the facts.
which smith is this?

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