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Police Raid 10 Doctor's Offices In Worker's Comp Investigation | Ohio News Network (ONN)

There are 229 comments on the 10TV WBNS story from Mar 16, 2011, titled Police Raid 10 Doctor's Offices In Worker's Comp Investigation | Ohio News Network (ONN). In it, 10TV WBNS reports that:

The war against prescription drug abuse in Scioto County just got some needed help from state agencies that are tired of a pill problem plaguing Ohioans.

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cvp

United States

#44 Mar 18, 2011
SICK AND TIRED wrote:
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B.S. Go to www.ohiobwc.com , click on "medical providers", click on "BWC Provider Lookup". THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF BWC CERTIFIED PHYSICIANS IN THIS STATE!
Once you do this and get your list of doctors call them all and ask them if they are accepting worker's compensation patients. Better yet, do your search for Portsmouth Ohio within a 50-100 mile radius. There are thousands of doctors who may be on a list of approved doctors on the BWC website however very few are actually still treating workers comp patients due to the delays and difficulty to get a simple office visit approved. This is what you should have done prior to your comment as it only confirms the false assumptions people make without actually checking their facts instead of simply believing whatever B.S. is printed in the paper or said on the news.
ba da ba boom

Cincinnati, OH

#45 Mar 18, 2011
jdh wrote:
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dude...open your eyes and look around...there is b***s*** everywhere and it didn't come from just one kinda bull.
Ben Bernanke is THE biggest banker to rob you and he was RE-appointed by that DEMOCRAT obama to another term.
Don't forget about the demon-in-the-headlights aura of Timmy Geitner. He is evil incarnate and was born to lie. A perfect compliment to Obama's Chi-town gangster posse.
Joecitizen12

North Olmsted, OH

#46 Mar 18, 2011
Dr. Lundeen is a very good physician! It is a pattern with the BWC to pursue, and persecute, any physician that works for the patient and doesn't adhere to the BWC's agenda. The man runs a pain clinic so you tell me what type of medication he is supposed to prescribe? As a chronic pain sufferer, and a patient of Dr. Lundeens I know for a fact that he prescribes medications and monitors his patients well within the AMA guidlines. If anyone should be persecuted, and prosecuted, it would be the BWC. The way the BWC persecutes, and harasses any physician that works for the patient, it has gotten to the point that no doctor in the state will prescribe needed medication and once you mention that it is a workers comp claim they turn you away immediatly. The BWC will give you a list of their "approved physicians", but just try to get one of them to see you, and you will find out that their "approved physicians" will not accept any workers comp claims. Just what kind of system are they running? The only "approved physicians" are afraid to see a patient with a workers comp claim. I agree that they need to cut costs, but not at the injured workers expense. This system definitely needs a complete overhaul and by that I mean they should start at the top and remove any of their own employees that are exploiting their own system. It is total insanity to pursue the physicians that are helping.
ohio

Chillicothe, OH

#47 Mar 18, 2011
yes , dr, Lundeen is good doctor, he just don't give meds out to any 1, bwc is after him cause he is for the
patients. HE IS NOT A PAIN CLINIC, U gotta be approve to see him ..and u don;t just walk in and get meds..
CONFUSED

Jackson, OH

#48 Mar 18, 2011
BWC IS TARGETING THE SAME DOCTOR THAT THEY SENT THEIR PATIENTS TO FOR PERCENTAGE OF DISABILITY. THIS DOCTOR KEPT SOME OF THESE PATIENTS AS CLIENTS BECAUSE THEY BECAME FAMILAR WITH HIM AFTER BEING FORCED TO SEE HIM FOR SO LONG WHILE THEY WERE RECIEVING DISABILITY BENEFITS FROM BWC. WHERE IS THEIR RESONSIBILITY IN ALL THIS. WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO TO ASSIST THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN INJURED AND NOT A CANDIDATE FOR SURGERY AND SUFFER FROM SERVERE DIBILITATING CHRONIC PAIN? THEY SHOULD HAVE TO BE MADE TO SUPPLY A PHYSICIAN OR ESTABLISH A PAIN MANAGEMENT CLINIC FOR THESE PATIENTS. AS WE ALL KNOW THAT IT IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND A NEW DR. TO TAKE ON AN OLD ONGOING MEIDICAL CASE.
Confused

Jackson, OH

#49 Mar 18, 2011
What is up with the comment "If we can't get them one way, we get them another. That is vigilante talk.
Confused

Jackson, OH

#50 Mar 18, 2011
Jewish Zombie wrote:
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And that was what I was think as well.
I also agree with this comment.
Confused

Jackson, OH

#51 Mar 18, 2011
Merica wrote:
It's all these people with their "back injuries," and "disc problems."
Nothing makes my day like: "I got two pinched nerves and three slipped discuss so I can't work ..."
It is obvious that you have no idea the pain that some of these people are experiencing.
Their pain is so severe that nothing relieves it. I am not a patient of this Dr. but have seen from other patients that they experience real debiitating pain and if the documentation backs up the injuiries , you shouldn't judge thier pain. It could happen to you sooner than you expect. Wait til you are injured on a job and BWC sends you to multiple doctors in attempts not to award you your worker comp claim. This is happening as we speak.
Confused

Jackson, OH

#52 Mar 18, 2011
Jewish Zombie wrote:
This may be a dumb question but if you are on WComp can you see any doctor or do you have to see one on their "list?"
you have to see thier Workers Comp Doctors and thier doctor has to judge you condition. You should always see your own Medical Doctor and consulting doctors that will be for the patient. If not, you will surely lose. These BWC doctors will MMI you in a heart beat. Then it is over unless you appeal and probably lose eventually anyway.
Mal

Brookville, OH

#53 Mar 18, 2011
Workers Comp Worker wrote:
An injured worker has the right to go to any doctor, however if they want their bills paid by workers' comp they must go to a BWC Certified provider. Dr. Lundeen is not the only "bad" doctor in the system and I can't wait until they get some more of the bad ones out. These types of doctors are doing a dis-service to the patient and to the system as a whole.
Amen! I'm sure we both could add to the Lundeen list of other things that need to be looked at. How about we help the powers that be compile a list of the ones those of us who work in the BWC system have been reporting for years.
ohio

Chillicothe, OH

#54 Mar 18, 2011
BWC IS TARGETING THE SAME DOCTOR THAT THEY SENT THEIR PATIENTS TO FOR PERCENTAGE OF DISABILITY. THIS DOCTOR KEPT SOME OF THESE PATIENTS AS CLIENTS BECAUSE THEY BECAME FAMILAR WITH HIM AFTER BEING FORCED TO SEE HIM FOR SO LONG WHILE THEY WERE RECIEVING DISABILITY BENEFITS FROM BWC. WHERE IS THEIR RESONSIBILITY IN ALL THIS. WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO TO ASSIST THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN INJURED AND NOT A CANDIDATE FOR SURGERY AND SUFFER FROM SERVERE DIBILITATING CHRONIC PAIN? THEY SHOULD HAVE TO BE MADE TO SUPPLY A PHYSICIAN OR ESTABLISH A PAIN MANAGEMENT CLINIC FOR THESE PATIENTS. AS WE ALL KNOW THAT IT IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND A NEW DR. TO TAKE ON AN OLD ONGOING MEIDICAL CASE.
this is so true , ppl under bwc will no long have doctor , no will take their case. i did;nt get high pain meds . but need to get some relif and still had 2 pay for , bwc refused me pain box , i dont like taken med..but the pain from my injury is so SERVERE..so now i will just suffer , it will be hard 2 fing a job with my disabilty,pain
ohio

Chillicothe, OH

#55 Mar 18, 2011
you have to see thier Workers Comp Doctors and thier doctor has to judge you condition. You should always see your own Medical Doctor and consulting doctors that will be for the patient. If not, you will surely lose. These BWC doctors will MMI you in a heart beat. Then it is over unless you appeal and probably lose eventually anyway,, THIS IS VERY TRUE HAPPEN EVERYDAY , BWC DONT WANT U TO HAVE LIFE , THEY MMI AFTER MEDICAL SHOWED WHAT WAS WRONG , 3 TIMES AND STILL MMI ME ,, Dr.Lundeen SAID ALL MEDICAL SHOWED PROOF AND ADENA HOSPITAL SAID THE SAME THING , STILL MMI ITS BULLCHIT , THEY OFFER U SOME MONEY HA HA ..AND TELL U GOODBY ...WAIT TIL U GET HURT AND SEE WHAT BWC DOSE TO YOU... U WONT BE LOL .. UR WILL BE CRYING BWC DONE THIS AND THAT .. AND WILL BE LOL @YOU
I agree some ppl fake this chit..but i think u need ur family dr and pain doctor . as a team for bwc and to get any pain meds...
ohio

Chillicothe, OH

#56 Mar 18, 2011
cvp
so true Better yet, do your search for Portsmouth Ohio within a 50-100 mile radius. There are thousands of doctors who may be on a list of approved doctors on the BWC website however very few are actually still treating workers comp patients due to the delays and difficulty to get a simple office visit.. i called so many doctor's when i got hurt ..and went thur the list . no one on the list would take the case, they are affrid of worker;s com ..yes they say bwc but only take very few..dr ..lundeen name was given out by laywer i talk to ..said he care about who he treat , and yes he dose care about who he treats.
CHIT MAGNET

United States

#57 Mar 19, 2011
I agree , unfortunately I have had to experience the UNETHICAL and DISHONEST way a person is treated in this so called system of helping the injured worker .I have been a patient of Dr. Lundeen since early 2000 and he has in no way shape or form tried to push pills to me . In FACT he did take away some very very STRONG meds. that were prescribed by another dr.,who is still in business I might add ! It seems to me this POLITICALLY MOTIVATED !The old smoke and mirror trick Nothing up my sleeve type deal something is WRONG somewhere and it has"nt surfaced yet ! Don"t forget the coin scandal within BWC has that all been recovered ? With some of the comments made by the people who raided the GOOD dr. it almost sounds PERSONAL !!! After it all settles down it would not surprise me if all ALLEGATIONS turn out to be WRONG !!!!!!!! And then can you say L A W S U I T !!!!!! We need total TRANSPARENCY in ALL GOV. AGENCIES to keep them HONEST !!! GOOD LUCK DR. LUNDEEN . GOTTA GO DR SHOPPING NOW !!!!!!! PITZ OFF

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#58 Mar 19, 2011
I find it amazing that so many people can get these hardcore meds but I can't. I have been injured several times throughout my life. I would just shake it off and go back to work A.S.A.P., most recently I was in a head-on collision with a punk playing chicken on route 88. I have 1 ruptured disc in my neck, three slipped disc in the center of my back and all four ruptured in my lower back (one that is so bad it's nerve on nerve) along with a busted knee and two torn ligaments in my shoulders.

I can't find a doctor to give me anything stronger than hydrocodone. And just to get the hydrocodone's I have to drop urine every month like a common criminal.

Bottom line here is I don't understand why young people get pain pills for more than a month. I was a roofer and never took anything stronger than a Tylenol 3 when I was hurt. I can understand people in their late 40's getting the pain med's but I have seen kids that could be more than 21 getting them while I have to beg for some relief.
CHIT MAGNET

United States

#59 Mar 19, 2011
I feel for ya !JoCo . I did the same thing for years,just suck it and go on .First, I was only speaking of BWC and work related injuries. Second ,I dont think playing chicken was in your best interest. Who really won that day ? Third I agree with on the kids,unless its something obvious.Finally you gotta ask yourself ARE YOU WORKING TO LIVE OR ARE YOU LIVING TO WORK ? And most importantly are you willing to jeopardize the safety and well being of not only you but to others ? Can you say AMBULANCE CHASING ATTORNEY ?

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#60 Mar 19, 2011
CHIT MAGNET wrote:
I feel for ya !JoCo . I did the same thing for years,just suck it and go on .First, I was only speaking of BWC and work related injuries. Second ,I dont think playing chicken was in your best interest. Who really won that day ? Third I agree with on the kids,unless its something obvious.Finally you gotta ask yourself ARE YOU WORKING TO LIVE OR ARE YOU LIVING TO WORK ? And most importantly are you willing to jeopardize the safety and well being of not only you but to others ? Can you say AMBULANCE CHASING ATTORNEY ?
I don't think I phrased my comment correctly. I was taking the kids clothes shopping in Lancaster. On the way back I took 88, a road I don't know very well. A kid on his 21st birthday was either drag racing the car next to him or he was playing chicken with me. Either way he hit me like a rocket and my car went 50 feet sideways and ended up in a cornfield. Thank God my kids were in the backseat and alright. I had tried to get out of his way but he was going so fast I only got part of the way off the road before he hit me. My car was hit right on my door. They estimated his car was going 90MPH. He had no insurance and all I had was no fault.

As for the rest I was or am a workaholic. I even turned down workman's comp in 1992 when I found out they wouldn't allow me to work and see a doctor at the same time. I wanted no money from them, only wanted what I thought my company was paying for, therapy.

Now I am inoperable and intense therapy will cause further damage and light therapy is a waste of time. I only want to go back to work. I don't understand young people who can heal getting the same or stronger meds then me.
CHIT MAGNET

United States

#61 Mar 19, 2011
Who is they in 1992 ? Are you still working for same co.? You need to realize that if someone hires you they are taking a BIG liability as far as insurance premiums go . With jobs being scarce companies can really pick and choose. STRIKE ONE do you have BWC claim ? STRIKE TWO ? EDUCATION transferable SKILLS STRIKE THREE ? AGE ? I don"t mean to sound cruel but is what it is ! When you get BWC involved in your life you are in for a CRUDE awakening.There is nothing for you to try and understand,just do the best the you can do till ya go belly up !
avz

Fort Myers, FL

#62 Mar 19, 2011
Amazed wrote:
Won't stop the ones traveling to Florida, you know - the ones that rob your houses to get quick cash, drive down to Florida to pick up their pills and bring them back to Ohio.
Agree 100% Pill mills here are big business. Ought to be a law against Doctor shopping and filling scripts fom more than one state away except for a vacation (10 day supply).

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#63 Mar 19, 2011
CHIT MAGNET wrote:
Who is they in 1992 ? Are you still working for same co.? You need to realize that if someone hires you they are taking a BIG liability as far as insurance premiums go . With jobs being scarce companies can really pick and choose. STRIKE ONE do you have BWC claim ? STRIKE TWO ? EDUCATION transferable SKILLS STRIKE THREE ? AGE ? I don"t mean to sound cruel but is what it is ! When you get BWC involved in your life you are in for a CRUDE awakening.There is nothing for you to try and understand,just do the best the you can do till ya go belly up !
I know what you're saying and I don't see it as being cruel at all. One of my injuries really dates back to the riots of MLK assassination. I was only on WC for about 2 months but when I returned their check and informed them I wanted to continue to work they dropped me. I didn't care, I rather work. But now I am in my 50's and opened my own store hence the photo, but cannot bare to stand or sit too long because of the pain.

All I want is the doctors to stop treating me like I am one of these drug dealers or a drug addict. I am called in for pill counts and have to drop urine every month because a handful of 20 year old are out there faking it for money or to get high. The ones who suffer are the ones like me who don't abuse it and really needs it.

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