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“Queen of my domain”

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#43 Mar 22, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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They aren't limited my dear if they investigate those things before purchasing a plan. Again, what you complain of is a vagrancy of health insurance and existed well before 2013. You didn't complain then because it was caused by the beauty of capitalism. You whine now because you believe it is something that President Obama created.
What you are obstinately refusing to acknowledge is the "pre-existing conditions" situation here, my darlin'.

If, like the situation I seem to think WW is in -- has a serious condition under which she HAS been under treatment for -- and you need to buy a policy, there is a very high probability in which one must choose losing a physician or provider in which you have had trust in, has knowledge of your situation and how to treat, and may not be available via a policy OR the patient is put into a situation of choosing between the lower-cost policy or losing his or her physician.

I didn't say Obama created it, however, the Obamacare situation IS exacerbating the situation, particularly for those who lost their employer-based health care or those who lost health care in another situation.

Quit being such a an ass and listen.

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#44 Mar 22, 2014
gokeefe wrote:
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Quit being such a an ass and listen.
You ask for the impossible, Keefe.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#45 Mar 22, 2014
gokeefe wrote:
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What you are obstinately refusing to acknowledge is the "pre-existing conditions" situation here, my darlin'.
If, like the situation I seem to think WW is in -- has a serious condition under which she HAS been under treatment for -- and you need to buy a policy, there is a very high probability in which one must choose losing a physician or provider in which you have had trust in, has knowledge of your situation and how to treat, and may not be available via a policy OR the patient is put into a situation of choosing between the lower-cost policy or losing his or her physician.
I didn't say Obama created it, however, the Obamacare situation IS exacerbating the situation, particularly for those who lost their employer-based health care or those who lost health care in another situation.
Quit being such a an ass and listen.
You do realize that because of the ACA, insurers can't refuse someone because of a pre-existing condition anymore, don't you? Of course you don't.

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

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#46 Mar 22, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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You do realize that because of the ACA, insurers can't refuse someone because of a pre-existing condition anymore, don't you? Of course you don't.
You do realize that wasn't the point, don't you? We weren't discussing eligibility or refusal due to pre-exsting conditions. You call yourself a "lawyer?"
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#47 Mar 22, 2014
gokeefe wrote:
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You do realize that wasn't the point, don't you? We weren't discussing eligibility or refusal due to pre-exsting conditions. You call yourself a "lawyer?"
I'm trying to translate your posts from moron to English and I guess I am struggling.

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#48 Mar 22, 2014
gokeefe wrote:
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You do realize that wasn't the point, don't you? We weren't discussing eligibility or refusal due to pre-exsting conditions. You call yourself a "lawyer?"
I doubt che's medical care experience and/or payment of premiums goes any further than government provided medicaid , just like his/her income is most likely limited to disability or some other hand out. Never has she/he mentioned a job (horrors) and seems to be available on his forum 24 X 7 to throw out one liners, never of any substance.

So, you're talking to a brick wall, basically.

Let's grab some half and half, Kahlua, vodka and crash Bizzy's for some late night white russians! She can mix.
Wait what

Columbus, OH

#49 Mar 22, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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I'm trying to translate your posts from moron to English and I guess I am struggling.
You and Big Johnson seem to be the only ones who struggle with GoKeefe's posts. Why is that?
Wait what

Columbus, OH

#50 Mar 22, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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You do realize that because of the ACA, insurers can't refuse someone because of a pre-existing condition anymore, don't you? Of course you don't.
You know what bugs me about this? In reality, if you had a pre-existing and it was causing a problem purchasing private medical insurance, you could go out and get a corporate job and get immediate (or relatively immediate) coverage.

Many of those "exclusions" were because certain insurance companies kicked people off the rolls on their private insurance plan (you can easily find the reports). If it was such an issue, please explain why one particular former insurance company executive - one found guilty of such practice - was one of the key writers of the legislation.

While I am glad no one is being excluded, it was used as an inflated selling point to tug at the heartstrings of those who didn't see their own high premiums and deductibles coming from the health insurance that they could keep because they liked it. And tell me why I have to pay for someone else's birth control one more time, please.

To argue this makes you look ridiculously stoopid, not to mention ignorant, for clearly you haven't had to have a lot of dealings with medical doctors and facilities. Instead of being thankful for that, you have to use your weapon of choice (I did see the baited breath comment, lol) to attack. You're worse than the Grinch!
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#51 Mar 22, 2014
Wait what wrote:
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You and Big Johnson seem to be the only ones who struggle with GoKeefe's posts. Why is that?
Because we are literate.
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Columbus, OH

#52 Mar 22, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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You do realize that because of the ACA, insurers can't refuse someone because of a pre-existing condition anymore, don't you? Of course you don't.
If you are doing this to be purposely obtuse, please stop wasting space.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#53 Mar 22, 2014
Wait what wrote:
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If you are doing this to be purposely obtuse, please stop wasting space.
You deny that?
Wait what

Columbus, OH

#54 Mar 22, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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You deny that?
Scroll up, oh literate one.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#55 Mar 22, 2014
Wait what wrote:
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Scroll up, oh literate one.
You deny that?
Schmitt

Columbus, OH

#56 Mar 23, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
The tax paying US citizens are the victims of Obama.....

woof
Why do you continue to be Duke? You're a fake ass poser.
Scheherazade

Columbus, OH

#57 Mar 24, 2014
An update: Apparently Miss Pinocchio hasn't learned her lesson yet....
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Update: Julie Boonstra’s claim her Obamacare plan is ‘unaffordable’ gets downgraded to Three Pinocchios
BY GLENN KESSLER
March 11 at 6:00 am
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-chec...

“Because of Obamacare, I am now stuck with a plan that doesn’t work for me. My choice was taken away from me.”
–Boonstra, in a new ad released in early March
Take a close look at the subtle difference in the language of these two ads sponsored by the pro-GOP group Americans for Prosperity. The first ad claimed the out-of-pocket costs were so high that “it’s unaffordable.” When that line was questioned—and Democrats demanded proof be given to television stations running the ad—the issue became much fuzzier. Suddenly, it became “a plan that doesn’t work for me.” That is much more subjective and harder to fact check.
We originally awarded the Boonstra ad Two Pinocchios, pending new information. We are now ready to update the ruling, having given AFP ample time to document its claims.
The Facts
The problem with the original ad was two-fold. First, Boonstra, a cancer patient, suggested she had lost her “wonderful doctor” when in fact she could keep that doctor in the new plan. Second, her premiums were cut in half, from $1,100 a month to $571, and the savings were slightly more than the out-of-pocket costs permitted under the health care law. So it seemed highly suspicious that the costs were “unaffordable.”
We were led to believe that she had a Silver individual plan through Blue Cross Blue Shield but were not able to determine her actual plan, as AFP declined to document her claim. Instead, it merely asserted that her costs may be unpredictable in the future.
In an interview with the Dexter Leader responding to our column, Boonstra said:“People are asking me for the numbers and I don’t know those answers — that’s the heartbreak of all of this. It’s the uncertainty of not having those numbers that I have an issue with.”
On March 10, however, the Detroit News reported that Boonstra admitted that she had Premier Gold plan. That has an out-of-pocket cap of $5,100 a year.
In other words, her old plan cost $13,200 a year—before co-pays and other out-of-pocket expenses. The new plan is $11,952—including co-pays and out of pocket expenses. That’s a savings of more than $1,200 a year.
Boonstra’s response to this report was that it “can’t be true” because she was worried about high expenses early in the year and because she thought one of her prescription drugs was not covered. A spokesman for Blue Cross told the News that all of her prescriptions are covered and her co-pays on the drugs would help with meeting her out-of-pocket maximum.
In the meantime, her premium savings are building up every month. If the initial out-of-pocket costs were too high, she likely could have worked out a payment plan. But it is puzzling this still would be a mystery to her more than two months into the new plan.
Wait what

Columbus, OH

#58 Mar 24, 2014
Scheherazade wrote:
An update: Apparently Miss Pinocchio hasn't learned her lesson yet....
==========
Update: Julie Boonstra’s claim her Obamacare plan is ‘unaffordable’ gets downgraded to Three Pinocchios
BY GLENN KESSLER
March 11 at 6:00 am
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-chec...
“Because of Obamacare, I am now stuck with a plan that doesn’t work for me. My choice was taken away from me.”
–Boonstra, in a new ad released in early March
Take a close look at the subtle difference in the language of these two ads sponsored by the pro-GOP group Americans for Prosperity. The first ad claimed the out-of-pocket costs were so high that “it’s unaffordable.” When that line was questioned—and Democrats demanded proof be given to television stations running the ad—the issue became much fuzzier. Suddenly, it became “a plan that doesn’t work for me.” That is much more subjective and harder to fact check.
We originally awarded the Boonstra ad Two Pinocchios, pending new information. We are now ready to update the ruling, having given AFP ample time to document its claims.
The Facts
The problem with the original ad was two-fold. First, Boonstra, a cancer patient, suggested she had lost her “wonderful doctor” when in fact she could keep that doctor in the new plan. Second, her premiums were cut in half, from $1,100 a month to $571, and the savings were slightly more than the out-of-pocket costs permitted under the health care law. So it seemed highly suspicious that the costs were “unaffordable.”
We were led to believe that she had a Silver individual plan through Blue Cross Blue Shield but were not able to determine her actual plan, as AFP declined to document her claim. Instead, it merely asserted that her costs may be unpredictable in the future.
In an interview with the Dexter Leader responding to our column, Boonstra said:“People are asking me for the numbers and I don’t know those answers — that’s the heartbreak of all of this. It’s the uncertainty of not having those numbers that I have an issue with.”
On March 10, however, the Detroit News reported that Boonstra admitted that she had Premier Gold plan. That has an out-of-pocket cap of $5,100 a year.
In other words, her old plan cost $13,200 a year—before co-pays and other out-of-pocket expenses. The new plan is $11,952—including co-pays and out of pocket expenses. That’s a savings of more than $1,200 a year.
Boonstra’s response to this report was that it “can’t be true” because she was worried about high expenses early in the year and because she thought one of her prescription drugs was not covered. A spokesman for Blue Cross told the News that all of her prescriptions are covered and her co-pays on the drugs would help with meeting her out-of-pocket maximum.
In the meantime, her premium savings are building up every month. If the initial out-of-pocket costs were too high, she likely could have worked out a payment plan. But it is puzzling this still would be a mystery to her more than two months into the new plan.
Blah blah blah Obama wah wah wah I am the only person who has ever faced a serious disease boo hoo hoo.

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