Koch Bros Obamacare "victim"

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Scheherazade

Columbus, OH

#1 Mar 16, 2014
These are the stories that we're not hearing enough about. While Americans for Prosperity keep trying to push out fake victims of the ACA, we find that some of them are given significant savings in their health care and are found out to only be used as pawns in the race to protect the rich and wealthy health insurance companies. More shame brought on by the Koch brothers and their pursuit of making Americans less healthy.....

Obamacare 'Victim' Julie Boonstra's Sad State Of Denial
By karoli March 11, 2014 1:26 pm
http://crooksandliars.com/2014/03/obamacare-v...

After her original ad for Americans for Prosperity was soundly debunked, Julie Boonstra turned tearful, looking out at the throngs of imaginary people who hate getting health care benefits and telling them she just wants to be heard.

If you just want to be heard, Julie, I suggest you live in reality first instead of some invented bubble of victimhood. Because as it turns out, Julie Boonstra is actually saving money with her new plan under the ACA.

The Detroit News:

Boonstra said Monday her new plan she dislikes the Blue Cross Premier Gold health care plan, which caps patient responsibility for out-of-pocket costs at $5,100 a year, lower than the federal law’s maximum of $6,350 a year. It means the new plan will save her at least $1,200 compared with her former insurance plan she preferred that was ended under Obamacare’s coverage requirements.
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Boonstra’s old plan cost $1,100 a month in premiums or $13,200 a year, she previously told The News. It didn’t include money she spent on co-pays, prescription drugs and other out-of-pocket expenses.

By contrast, the Blues’ plan premium costs $571 a month or $6,852 for the year. Since out-of-pocket costs are capped at $5,100, including deductibles, the maximum Boonstra would pay this year for all of her cancer treatment is $11,952.

When advised of the details of her Blues’ plan, Boonstra said the idea that it would be cheaper “can’t be true.”

“I personally do not believe that,” Boonstra said.

Math is hard, Ms. Boonstra. We understand that. And complaining that you might hit your out-of-pocket maximum in the first month of the year is stretching things to a point of no return, since everything would be covered after that.
Dagney Coalman

Columbus, OH

#2 Mar 16, 2014
We have just the word of the turd who wrote this up. Did an HHS turd make it there to issue her an ACTUAL CONTRACT of coverage?

Since: Dec 11

Middletown, OH

#3 Mar 17, 2014
Math is VERY hard for the free shit army. They finally figured it out though and they be opting to not spend their hard earned Mc-d's money on Obumcare. Keep on shillin Mcfly.......................
Duke for Mayor

Cleveland, OH

#4 Mar 17, 2014
The tax paying US citizens are the victims of Obama.....

woof
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Dublin, OH

#5 Mar 17, 2014
You are an extremely shallow poster and one who clearly does not think beyond media headlines.

Did you catch the part where she's a leukemia patient? Are you following the cancer treatment problems with the ACA, such as no/reduced treatments and limited medications due to cost? Last, many of her costs may not fall under the plan and thus ARE ADDED TO THE COST OF THE LIMIT OF OUT OF POCKET EXPENSES. You do NOT get unlimited health care/treatments/scripts for a limited amount of money.

Stop posting if you don't understand the subject.
Wait what

Dublin, OH

#8 Mar 17, 2014
Scheherazade wrote:
These are the stories that we're not hearing enough about. While Americans for Prosperity keep trying to push out fake victims of the ACA, we find that some of them are given significant savings in their health care and are found out to only be used as pawns in the race to protect the rich and wealthy health insurance companies. More shame brought on by the Koch brothers and their pursuit of making Americans less healthy.....
Obamacare 'Victim' Julie Boonstra's Sad State Of Denial
By karoli March 11, 2014 1:26 pm
http://crooksandliars.com/2014/03/obamacare-v...
After her original ad for Americans for Prosperity was soundly debunked, Julie Boonstra turned tearful, looking out at the throngs of imaginary people who hate getting health care benefits and telling them she just wants to be heard.
If you just want to be heard, Julie, I suggest you live in reality first instead of some invented bubble of victimhood. Because as it turns out, Julie Boonstra is actually saving money with her new plan under the ACA.
The Detroit News:
Boonstra said Monday her new plan she dislikes the Blue Cross Premier Gold health care plan, which caps patient responsibility for out-of-pocket costs at $5,100 a year, lower than the federal law’s maximum of $6,350 a year. It means the new plan will save her at least $1,200 compared with her former insurance plan she preferred that was ended under Obamacare’s coverage requirements.
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Boonstra’s old plan cost $1,100 a month in premiums or $13,200 a year, she previously told The News. It didn’t include money she spent on co-pays, prescription drugs and other out-of-pocket expenses.
By contrast, the Blues’ plan premium costs $571 a month or $6,852 for the year. Since out-of-pocket costs are capped at $5,100, including deductibles, the maximum Boonstra would pay this year for all of her cancer treatment is $11,952.
When advised of the details of her Blues’ plan, Boonstra said the idea that it would be cheaper “can’t be true.”
“I personally do not believe that,” Boonstra said.
Math is hard, Ms. Boonstra. We understand that. And complaining that you might hit your out-of-pocket maximum in the first month of the year is stretching things to a point of no return, since everything would be covered after that.
And you should thank your lucky stars that you are too ignorant to know about dealing with cancer costs, and can make fun of those who do.
Wait what

Dublin, OH

#9 Mar 17, 2014
What's your last name, anyway? Dumass?
Scheherazade

Reynoldsburg, OH

#10 Mar 18, 2014
Not one of you in response on this thread are backing up your statemens with anything validating your comments. Without substance, all you have is empty rhetoric ("it's bad because Obama did it") and that has well worn thin.

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#11 Mar 18, 2014
Scheherazade wrote:
Not one of you in response on this thread are backing up your statemens with anything validating your comments. Without substance, all you have is empty rhetoric ("it's bad because Obama did it") and that has well worn thin.
Stow it, Reader.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/373429/...
Scheherazade

Reynoldsburg, OH

#12 Mar 18, 2014
To substantiate MY claim, here is some new information on how the Koch Brothers have abandoned this story one the "facts" of the case have come to light. As always, the easiest way to rid our storyline of ridiculous stupidity is to shine a light on it.
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Koch Group Abandons Obamacare 'Horror' Stories After Fact-Check Backlash
DYLAN SCOTT – MARCH 17, 2014, 10:55 AM EDT

Have we heard the last Obamacare "horror" story? If new ads from the Koch Brothers-backed group are any indication, we might have.

Americans for Prosperity, the well-funded conservative group that has been attacking Democrats in battleground states over the health care reform law, put out TV ads Monday against Sens. Mary Landrieu (D-LA) and Mark Udall (D-CO).

But what's notable about the ads is what they aren't: A personalized story of someone who's been negatively affected by Obamacare, the kind of verifiable set of facts that can be checked -- and rebutted, as happened with a recent AFP ad that led to significant backlash from the fact-checking community.

"People don't like political ads. I don't like them either," a woman tells the camera to start AFP's new ads, announced Monday by the group. "But health care isn't about politics. It's about people."

She then criticizes the law for canceled health plans, narrow provider networks and higher premiums while linking Landrieu and Udall to those problems -- but she speaks in general talking points. The new ad buy is $1.7 million across the two states, and the spots will run for three weeks.

It's a notably different style after the group incurred the wrath of fact-checkers over an ad released last month in the Michigan Senate race. That ad told the story of a cancer patient who had her plan canceled because of Obamacare. But the spot didn't mention that the subject would save at least $1,200 for a new health plan under the law, as TPM and numerous other-fact-checkers reported.

Another AFP ad featuring a Medicare recipient earned a "Two Pinocchios" rating from the Washington Post. The Huffington Post called out a third ad, featuring a couple whose policy had been canceled, in the Arkansas Senate race last week.
Scheherazade

Reynoldsburg, OH

#13 Mar 18, 2014

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#14 Mar 18, 2014
Oh shut up, Reader aka Scheherazade. You've drunk the Kool-Aid, long time ago.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/373429/...

"Uncertainty dogs her — especially having been lied to once by the president. Where her canceled plan’s premiums once covered all her costs, she now must plan for out-of-pocket expenses. Those expenses are capped but will double to $10,200 if she goes out of her network — a not-uncommon need for cancer patients, whose treatment often changes — for a doctor or tests. Of her five cancer drugs, she has already discovered that one (Loratadine) is not covered. Detroit News columnist Dan Calabrese also unearthed the fact that glaucoma and “long-term care and nursing care are not covered."

“She has been bedridden, had to sell her house, give up her teaching career,” says Hagerstrom.“She liked her insurance and now has to relive the uncertainty of five years ago.”

*****"Rather than meeting with his constituent to hear her concerns, Peters tried to intimidate local news stations into pulling the ad, effectively silencing Boonstra.“Failure to prevent the airing of ‘false and misleading advertising’ can be cause for the loss of a station’s license,” wrote Peters through his legal counsel. Subtle as a club."*****
Scheherazade

Columbus, OH

#15 Mar 18, 2014
People keep referencing her high deductible. Well, Boonstra paid $1100 a month which equals $13,200.00 a year, her out of pocket caps means she only pays out 6350.00, and with the ACA she saved 6348, so she is only increasing her expense by 2 dollars.
Scheherazade

Columbus, OH

#16 Mar 18, 2014
Oh, and just in case you were wondering if the elegant and not-so-sick looking Julie Boonstra had any other motivations for being the central figure in a pack of lies, why not take a look at the property she owns.....
doesn't this just BEAT ALL !?!?!?!
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The Koch Brothers’‘Obamacare Victim’ Owns Property with the County GOP Party Chair

By: Sarah Jonesmore from Sarah Jones
Saturday, March, 1st, 2014, 3:36 pm

But Chris Savage, publisher of EclectaBlog, revealed that the alleged “Obamacare victim” from the Koch Brothers ad shares property in Dexter, Michigan with former Washtenaw County GOP chair, Mark Boonstra.

Savage wrote on his site EclectaBlog that it seems like more than just the AFP are taking advantage of Julie Boonstra:

As far as Julie Boonstra being taken advantage of, I don’t think it’s just AFP that’s involved. She owns a home property with the former chair of the Washtenaw County Republican Party Mark Boonstra, a vacant lot next to Mr. Boonstra’s Dexter home.

Dexter is a very small town outside of Ann Arbor.

Mr. Boonstra is no political novice. He has a bachelor’s degree in political science, a master’s degree in applied economics and a law degree from the University of Michigan.

And he’s no non-partisan. Mr. Boonstra is a member of the self described conservative and libertarian Federalists Society. In 2012, Mr. Boonstra was appointed by Republican Governor Rick Synder to serve on the Michigan Court of Appeals. This makes sense, since Boonstra is from the Ann Arbor area, as is Rick Synder. Boonstra resides in Dexter, which is just outside of Ann Arbor, and is also the location of the property he shares with the “Obamacare victim”.

Boonstra was also the Washtenaw County GOP Chair.

From his bio,“Boonstra has served as senior principal for the Miller Canfield law firm, located on Main Street in downtown Ann Arbor, since 1985. He previously worked as a law clerk for Judge Ralph B. Guy Jr. of the U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Michigan.”
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It also completely makes sense that her first public speaking out since all of the FACTS have come to light is with FAUX NEWS...sheesh, how much more obvious can this woman get??
Scheherazade

Columbus, OH

#17 Mar 18, 2014
Wait what

Dublin, OH

#18 Mar 18, 2014
Scheherazade wrote:
Not one of you in response on this thread are backing up your statemens with anything validating your comments. Without substance, all you have is empty rhetoric ("it's bad because Obama did it") and that has well worn thin.
You are crazier than a loon, and clearly didn't click on any of the links I provided. It's no secret that Obamacare wasn't going to help cancer patients, as I stated oh-so-long-ago. But since you didn't want to see what would have proved you wrong, perhaps you'd like to try this on for size:
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Some of best cancer hospitals off limits under Obamacare

WASHINGTON — Some of America’s best cancer hospitals are off-limits to many of the people now signing up for coverage under the nation’s new health care program.

Doctors and administrators say they’re concerned. So are some state insurance regulators.

An Associated Press survey found examples coast to coast. Seattle Cancer Care Alliance is excluded by five out of eight insurers in Washington’s insurance exchange. MD Anderson Cancer Center says it’s in less than half of the plans in the Houston area. Memorial Sloan-Kettering is included by two of nine insurers in New York City and has out-of-network agreements with two more.

In all, only four of 19 nationally recognized comprehensive cancer centers that responded to AP’s survey said patients have access through all the insurance companies in their states’ exchanges.

http://www.pottsmerc.com/health/20140318/some...
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Dublin, OH

#19 Mar 18, 2014
Scheherazade wrote:
People keep referencing her high deductible. Well, Boonstra paid $1100 a month which equals $13,200.00 a year, her out of pocket caps means she only pays out 6350.00, and with the ACA she saved 6348, so she is only increasing her expense by 2 dollars.
No, you completely dodged the information.

THE HEALTH CARE EXCHANGES OUT OF POCKET LIMITS ARE ONLY FOR COVERED EXPENSES. THE HEALTH CARE EXCHANGES DO NOT COVER ALL TREATMENTS AND PRESCRIPTIONS. ANYTHING NOT INCLUDED IN YOUR HEALTH INSURANCE MEANS THAT YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR 100% OF THE COST WHICH MEANS THAT FOR SOME CANCER PATIENTS, THEY COULD STILL END UP BANKRUPT.

JHC, you're a feckin' idiot.
Wait what

Dublin, OH

#20 Mar 18, 2014
Scheherazade wrote:
Oh, and just in case you were wondering if the elegant and not-so-sick looking Julie Boonstra had any other motivations for being the central figure in a pack of lies, why not take a look at the property she owns.....
doesn't this just BEAT ALL !?!?!?!
==========
The Koch Brothers’‘Obamacare Victim’ Owns Property with the County GOP Party Chair
By: Sarah Jonesmore from Sarah Jones
Saturday, March, 1st, 2014, 3:36 pm
But Chris Savage, publisher of EclectaBlog, revealed that the alleged “Obamacare victim” from the Koch Brothers ad shares property in Dexter, Michigan with former Washtenaw County GOP chair, Mark Boonstra.
Savage wrote on his site EclectaBlog that it seems like more than just the AFP are taking advantage of Julie Boonstra:
As far as Julie Boonstra being taken advantage of, I don’t think it’s just AFP that’s involved. She owns a home property with the former chair of the Washtenaw County Republican Party Mark Boonstra, a vacant lot next to Mr. Boonstra’s Dexter home.
Dexter is a very small town outside of Ann Arbor.
Mr. Boonstra is no political novice. He has a bachelor’s degree in political science, a master’s degree in applied economics and a law degree from the University of Michigan.
And he’s no non-partisan. Mr. Boonstra is a member of the self described conservative and libertarian Federalists Society. In 2012, Mr. Boonstra was appointed by Republican Governor Rick Synder to serve on the Michigan Court of Appeals. This makes sense, since Boonstra is from the Ann Arbor area, as is Rick Synder. Boonstra resides in Dexter, which is just outside of Ann Arbor, and is also the location of the property he shares with the “Obamacare victim”.
Boonstra was also the Washtenaw County GOP Chair.
From his bio,“Boonstra has served as senior principal for the Miller Canfield law firm, located on Main Street in downtown Ann Arbor, since 1985. He previously worked as a law clerk for Judge Ralph B. Guy Jr. of the U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Michigan.”
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It also completely makes sense that her first public speaking out since all of the FACTS have come to light is with FAUX NEWS...sheesh, how much more obvious can this woman get??
What an utterly ignorant and stupid article to use to debate the fact that Obamacare won't help cancer patients the way we were told.
Wait what

Dublin, OH

#21 Mar 18, 2014
Scheherazade wrote:
To substantiate MY claim, here is some new information on how the Koch Brothers have abandoned this story one the "facts" of the case have come to light. As always, the easiest way to rid our storyline of ridiculous stupidity is to shine a light on it.
==========
Koch Group Abandons Obamacare 'Horror' Stories After Fact-Check Backlash
DYLAN SCOTT – MARCH 17, 2014, 10:55 AM EDT
Have we heard the last Obamacare "horror" story? If new ads from the Koch Brothers-backed group are any indication, we might have.
Americans for Prosperity, the well-funded conservative group that has been attacking Democrats in battleground states over the health care reform law, put out TV ads Monday against Sens. Mary Landrieu (D-LA) and Mark Udall (D-CO).
But what's notable about the ads is what they aren't: A personalized story of someone who's been negatively affected by Obamacare, the kind of verifiable set of facts that can be checked -- and rebutted, as happened with a recent AFP ad that led to significant backlash from the fact-checking community.
"People don't like political ads. I don't like them either," a woman tells the camera to start AFP's new ads, announced Monday by the group. "But health care isn't about politics. It's about people."
She then criticizes the law for canceled health plans, narrow provider networks and higher premiums while linking Landrieu and Udall to those problems -- but she speaks in general talking points. The new ad buy is $1.7 million across the two states, and the spots will run for three weeks.
It's a notably different style after the group incurred the wrath of fact-checkers over an ad released last month in the Michigan Senate race. That ad told the story of a cancer patient who had her plan canceled because of Obamacare. But the spot didn't mention that the subject would save at least $1,200 for a new health plan under the law, as TPM and numerous other-fact-checkers reported.
Another AFP ad featuring a Medicare recipient earned a "Two Pinocchios" rating from the Washington Post. The Huffington Post called out a third ad, featuring a couple whose policy had been canceled, in the Arkansas Senate race last week.
I provide mature facts from the medical profession and official cancer societies.

Your provide immature political crap.

I win.
Wait what

Dublin, OH

#22 Mar 18, 2014
Scheherazade wrote:
Oh, and just in case you were wondering if the elegant and not-so-sick looking Julie Boonstra had any other motivations for being the central figure in a pack of lies, why not take a look at the property she owns.....
doesn't this just BEAT ALL !?!?!?!
==========
The Koch Brothers’‘Obamacare Victim’ Owns Property with the County GOP Party Chair
By: Sarah Jonesmore from Sarah Jones
Saturday, March, 1st, 2014, 3:36 pm
But Chris Savage, publisher of EclectaBlog, revealed that the alleged “Obamacare victim” from the Koch Brothers ad shares property in Dexter, Michigan with former Washtenaw County GOP chair, Mark Boonstra.
Savage wrote on his site EclectaBlog that it seems like more than just the AFP are taking advantage of Julie Boonstra:
As far as Julie Boonstra being taken advantage of, I don’t think it’s just AFP that’s involved. She owns a home property with the former chair of the Washtenaw County Republican Party Mark Boonstra, a vacant lot next to Mr. Boonstra’s Dexter home.
Dexter is a very small town outside of Ann Arbor.
Mr. Boonstra is no political novice. He has a bachelor’s degree in political science, a master’s degree in applied economics and a law degree from the University of Michigan.
And he’s no non-partisan. Mr. Boonstra is a member of the self described conservative and libertarian Federalists Society. In 2012, Mr. Boonstra was appointed by Republican Governor Rick Synder to serve on the Michigan Court of Appeals. This makes sense, since Boonstra is from the Ann Arbor area, as is Rick Synder. Boonstra resides in Dexter, which is just outside of Ann Arbor, and is also the location of the property he shares with the “Obamacare victim”.
Boonstra was also the Washtenaw County GOP Chair.
From his bio,“Boonstra has served as senior principal for the Miller Canfield law firm, located on Main Street in downtown Ann Arbor, since 1985. He previously worked as a law clerk for Judge Ralph B. Guy Jr. of the U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Michigan.”
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It also completely makes sense that her first public speaking out since all of the FACTS have come to light is with FAUX NEWS...sheesh, how much more obvious can this woman get??
You're a pathetic whiny clown. Maybe you can go to clown school and get paid to be a buffoon.
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