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Main Street bridge wins engineering award | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 78 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Jul 11, 2011, titled Main Street bridge wins engineering award | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Architecture and engineering firm DLZ took the top award at this year's engineering-excellence awards program sponsored by the American Council of Engineering Companies of Ohio.

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iEnzyte Bob Pd Cust

Powell, OH

#61 Jul 11, 2011
Tea Farty wrote:
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Which party was mayor when they built City Center, again?
Neither party. Al Taubman built it with private investors. But you wouldn't understand that, would you socialist?
iEnzyte Bob Pd Cust

Powell, OH

#62 Jul 11, 2011
Tim wrote:
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You don't know much about architecture or engineering, do you? Bridges are a LOT more iconic and visible than brick streets or fountains, and they tend to last GENERATIONS. Want some examples? The Brooklyn Bridge, the Golden Gate Bridge, the Rampling bridge in Cincinnati to name a few. In addition, we don't NEED another Statehouse (we already have one,) and we don't need another Washington Monument (we have one in DC.) What we DID need was a new bridge. Why not make it noteworthy?
The problem with Columbus people is that they don't appreciate fine architecture/engineering when it's put in their front laps. The Wexner Center and the Convention Center for example have received rave reviews and won numerous awards. They could have been built much plainer and still be functional, but the rest of the country would have overlooked them. What's WRONG with Columbus' having a few MORE dramatic structures to get noticed?
That's just plain stupid. No offense.

Would you spend premium dollars on basement furniture or on the living room? You don't build a centerpiece in an area that is an armpit.

That's just common sense, but what am I talking about? You're a liberal. You wouldn't know common sense if it hit you over the head. That's why you're all poor and depend on government checks.

“American gvt is in the bag”

Since: Sep 10

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#63 Jul 11, 2011
iEnzyte Bob Pd Cust wrote:
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Neither party. Al Taubman built it with private investors. But you wouldn't understand that, would you socialist?
Well, at least I can still post under my registered acount, but you wouldn't understand that, would you fascist?

ha!

:-P

“American gvt is in the bag”

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#64 Jul 11, 2011
iEnzyte Bob Pd Cust wrote:
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Neither party. Al Taubman built it with private investors. But you wouldn't understand that, would you socialist?
Did you forget the Capitol South Development Corporation? Who used eminent domain to buy up the land and demolish the buildings to make way for the mall? Hint: it wasn't the private sector.
Reader

Columbus, OH

#65 Jul 11, 2011
iEnzyte Bob Pd Cust wrote:
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Neither party. Al Taubman built it with private investors. But you wouldn't understand that, would you socialist?
Al Taubman and private investors were the Mayor?
Reader

Columbus, OH

#66 Jul 11, 2011
iEnzyte Bob Pd Cust wrote:
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That's just plain stupid. No offense.
Would you spend premium dollars on basement furniture or on the living room? You don't build a centerpiece in an area that is an armpit.
That's just common sense, but what am I talking about? You're a liberal. You wouldn't know common sense if it hit you over the head. That's why you're all poor and depend on government checks.
Recovering from a heavy weekend, are we?

Since: Dec 09

Mcconnelsville, OH

#67 Jul 11, 2011
They got the award because that complete cluster-f of a bridge hasn't fallen down yet.
No fiscal responsibility

Westerville, OH

#68 Jul 11, 2011
iEnzyte Bob Pd Cust wrote:
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That's just plain stupid. No offense.
Would you spend premium dollars on basement furniture or on the living room? You don't build a centerpiece in an area that is an armpit.
That's just common sense, but what am I talking about? You're a liberal. You wouldn't know common sense if it hit you over the head. That's why you're all poor and depend on government checks.
Most of us know the facts. The Pet Projects of Coleman and the powers to be get all they want. In the meanwhile, the rest of Columbus suffers with horrible crime and inadequate numbers of police to patrol for prevention and follow up to investigate the crimes.
That was the single most scare tactic that Coleman and Council promoted the tax increase with. He threaten large layoffs in the police department. CPD has not been brought back to any level as promised, in fact it is decimated due to retirements and city growth and redistricting.
I know officers who basically state that if more than one major situation took place on one shift they would not have enough officers to handle it. They are spread dangerously thin.
So, reconsider the $200+ million downtown and answer the question "is this a priority"? NO.

And by the way, I saw the Scioto Mile and thought that for $44 million dollars they should have gotten a lot more than they did.
Coleman fooled the public once, shame on you if you vote him back into office.

“American gvt is in the bag”

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#69 Jul 11, 2011
No fiscal responsibility wrote:
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Most of us know the facts. The Pet Projects of Coleman and the powers to be get all they want. In the meanwhile, the rest of Columbus suffers with horrible crime and inadequate numbers of police ...
Columbus has the lowest crime rate of any major city in Ohio:

National Crime Rankings 2010:

Cleveland =#7
Cincinnati =#24
Toledo =#27
Dayton =#20
Canton =#37
Akron =#47
Columbus =#50

http://os.cqpress.com/citycrime/2010/City_cri...

If anything the Mayor deserves a medal for crime.
wheres the design

Columbus, OH

#70 Jul 11, 2011
The arch should have framed the skyline and buildings, this is soo typical of engineers. There only concern is how to make the thing stand and last for 40 years and not design. Maybe this could have included some ornamentation like flags, statues, landscape, or lighting. Why was this needed, oh yeah coleman wanted it there.
Hey

United States

#71 Jul 11, 2011
No fiscal responsibility wrote:
<quoted text>
Most of us know the facts. The Pet Projects of Coleman and the powers to be get all they want. In the meanwhile, the rest of Columbus suffers with horrible crime and inadequate numbers of police to patrol for prevention and follow up to investigate the crimes.
That was the single most scare tactic that Coleman and Council promoted the tax increase with. He threaten large layoffs in the police department. CPD has not been brought back to any level as promised, in fact it is decimated due to retirements and city growth and redistricting.
I know officers who basically state that if more than one major situation took place on one shift they would not have enough officers to handle it. They are spread dangerously thin.
So, reconsider the $200+ million downtown and answer the question "is this a priority"? NO.
And by the way, I saw the Scioto Mile and thought that for $44 million dollars they should have gotten a lot more than they did.
Coleman fooled the public once, shame on you if you vote him back into office.
I've gotta say they weren't spread thin at the Crosswoods development while the hotrods were in town over the weekend. They trucked in the bike beat and everything. For apparently no reason.
Reader

Columbus, OH

#72 Jul 11, 2011
No fiscal responsibility wrote:
<quoted text>
Most of us know the facts. The Pet Projects of Coleman and the powers to be get all they want. In the meanwhile, the rest of Columbus suffers with horrible crime and inadequate numbers of police to patrol for prevention and follow up to investigate the crimes.
That was the single most scare tactic that Coleman and Council promoted the tax increase with. He threaten large layoffs in the police department. CPD has not been brought back to any level as promised, in fact it is decimated due to retirements and city growth and redistricting.
I know officers who basically state that if more than one major situation took place on one shift they would not have enough officers to handle it. They are spread dangerously thin.
So, reconsider the $200+ million downtown and answer the question "is this a priority"? NO.
And by the way, I saw the Scioto Mile and thought that for $44 million dollars they should have gotten a lot more than they did.
Coleman fooled the public once, shame on you if you vote him back into office.
Does anyone understand the basic difference between operating expenses and capital improvements?

At the time that Columbus requested its first income tax increase in over a decade (during a very "down" economy everywhere), even if the Mayor had wanted to, there is no way that he could have said "stop the presses" on the various downtown improvements--including the bridge project, which was nearly completed at the time--and diverted the funds to maintaining city services.

Just can't be done. Doesn't work that way.
emminent domain on OSU

Columbus, OH

#73 Jul 11, 2011
I feel that the south campus gateway is blighted and will be conducting a study with students from the school of architecture and city and regional planning to prove our case for emminent domain to return the property rights to the previous owners.

This is a development by a out of state developer that is currently around 64% occupancy. This is less than previously when panninis was there. Several business store fronts are boarded up and this only attracts bums and panhandlers. Also the developer is discriminating against small business, and minority owned women businesses by stating that they are not interested in leasing to individuals, you have to be a chain with captial in excess of 1 million dollars. TO hell with them!!

Join the fight to seize this blighted community through eminent domain.
Reader

Columbus, OH

#74 Jul 11, 2011
wheres the design wrote:
The arch should have framed the skyline and buildings, this is soo typical of engineers. There only concern is how to make the thing stand and last for 40 years and not design. Maybe this could have included some ornamentation like flags, statues, landscape, or lighting. Why was this needed, oh yeah coleman wanted it there.
Ummm, it was needed so people can get across the river. That does generally determine the location. They could have moved it next to the statehouse, for instance, but that's not where the river is.
zEnzyte Bob ex-Paid Cust

Kansas City, MO

#75 Jul 11, 2011
No fiscal responsibility wrote:
<quoted text>
Most of us know the facts. The Pet Projects of Coleman and the powers to be get all they want. In the meanwhile, the rest of Columbus suffers with horrible crime and inadequate numbers of police to patrol for prevention and follow up to investigate the crimes.
That was the single most scare tactic that Coleman and Council promoted the tax increase with. He threaten large layoffs in the police department. CPD has not been brought back to any level as promised, in fact it is decimated due to retirements and city growth and redistricting.
I know officers who basically state that if more than one major situation took place on one shift they would not have enough officers to handle it. They are spread dangerously thin.
So, reconsider the $200+ million downtown and answer the question "is this a priority"? NO.
And by the way, I saw the Scioto Mile and thought that for $44 million dollars they should have gotten a lot more than they did.
Coleman fooled the public once, shame on you if you vote him back into office.
I like nice things so I'm not going to knock the mayor too much on his general plan for downtown, but you have to scratch your head and wonder about these people's ability when it comes to prioritizing. I remember when the Broad Street Bridge was built and how John Circle made a point of saying it did need to be reasonably attractive but it also needed to make financial sense and the bridge turned out just fine. But you have to wonder who the fool was who decided to build this on the edge of Downtown where nobody can use or see it, when a Broad Street-like bridge would have been just fine. The additional $50 million could have been put to so many better uses.

The guy in charge of OKI recently talked about what a poor process we have in this country for building and replacing infrastructure. it takes too long and it costs way too much.

I remember the old days when Roosevelt put people to work on the PWA. If you look at what they did, if a bridge had to be built, they just built it. No consultants, studies, environmental reports, paper work ---- THEY JUST BUILT THE DAMN THING.

We are wasting our most precious natural resource: MONEY.
zEnzyte Bob ex-Paid Cust

Kansas City, MO

#76 Jul 11, 2011
Tea Farty wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you forget the Capitol South Development Corporation? Who used eminent domain to buy up the land and demolish the buildings to make way for the mall? Hint: it wasn't the private sector.
As I said, Moody was a RINO. A drunken, big spending, big government RINO. But compared to the current crowd, he was absolutely tame.
OnlyinColumbus

Columbus, OH

#77 Jul 11, 2011
wheres the design wrote:
The arch should have framed the skyline and buildings, this is soo typical of engineers. There only concern is how to make the thing stand and last for 40 years and not design. Maybe this could have included some ornamentation like flags, statues, landscape, or lighting. Why was this needed, oh yeah coleman wanted it there.
You've got to be kidding. Ever notice how beautifully downtown is framed by the arch from I-70? It makes a stunning visual impression to drivers entering the city from the west. You are woefully ignorant if you think that engineers and designers are only interested in making something stand.
Hilarious

Mcdonough, GA

#78 Jul 11, 2011
Columbus....stunning visual impression.....? LOL.

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