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#62 Feb 12, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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tip--when it comes to biology, and physiology, I think you are the one who may be confused, or at least ignorant.
Modern research has determined distinct brain patterns in people who are gay, as well as patterns of response to sexual stimulii.
And the most important sexual organ has always been the brain.
OK....

I hate it when I agree with you, and this will get me black listed from the conservative community...

All the gay folks that are my friends knew they were gay from a very young age.......5 or 6 years old.....

I believe it is a wiring issue and so do my gay friends........

Anyone that believes being gay /Bi is a life choice is either gay or does not have a clue what it is like to be ostracized from family or friends.

There I said it, to be clear.... 99% of the time I think you are full of shyte..........

But at least I am willing to be honest.........

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#63 Feb 12, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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tip--when it comes to biology, and physiology, I think you are the one who may be confused, or at least ignorant.
Modern research has determined distinct brain patterns in people who are gay, as well as patterns of response to sexual stimulii.
And the most important sexual organ has always been the brain.
I'll bet your battery-operated toy goes in one ear and out the other.

I'm sure pedophiles, bestiaphiles and necrophiles exhibit distinct brain patterns relating to their particular sexual stimuli as well. Why? Because it is a conditioned response, and indicative of nothing else.

FACT: Homosexual behaviors defy nature, God...and Darwin.

This discussion isn't about homosexual behavior. It is about the bizarre and unnatural decision of complete strangers -- one hetero/one h0m0 -- to enter into contracts for the creation of a biological child...[noting that without hetero intervention, the h0m0 has no hope of this occurrence]...to be jockeyed back and forth between their two separate and very distinct worlds...in order to fill their own selfish needs at their convenience.

That you progressives approve of these actions, while condemning conservatives for a purported failure to address the urban youth pregnancy crisis says it all.

I guess if you're single and/or gay and have money, immorality is AOK, and conservatives should remain silent on your single parent status. But...if you're a low-income, black woman, then conservatives should pay you, pay teachers, pay daycare centers, and pay carbon offset fees...in order for you to reduce your immorality.

Makes sense...to an idiot.

Amazing.

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#64 Feb 12, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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I'll bet your battery-operated toy goes in one ear and out the other.
I'm sure pedophiles, bestiaphiles and necrophiles exhibit distinct brain patterns relating to their particular sexual stimuli as well. Why? Because it is a conditioned response, and indicative of nothing else.
FACT: Homosexual behaviors defy nature, God...and Darwin.
This discussion isn't about homosexual behavior. It is about the bizarre and unnatural decision of complete strangers -- one hetero/one h0m0 -- to enter into contracts for the creation of a biological child...[noting that without hetero intervention, the h0m0 has no hope of this occurrence]...to be jockeyed back and forth between their two separate and very distinct worlds...in order to fill their own selfish needs at their convenience.
That you progressives approve of these actions, while condemning conservatives for a purported failure to address the urban youth pregnancy crisis says it all.
I guess if you're single and/or gay and have money, immorality is AOK, and conservatives should remain silent on your single parent status. But...if you're a low-income, black woman, then conservatives should pay you, pay teachers, pay daycare centers, and pay carbon offset fees...in order for you to reduce your immorality.
Makes sense...to an idiot.
Amazing.
Circular "reasoning" on your part, along with liberal use of convenient "facts".

Put a fork in you, you're done.

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#65 Feb 12, 2013
Kemosahbe wrote:
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Circular "reasoning" on your part, along with liberal use of convenient "facts".
Put a fork in you, you're done.
Please explain how a same-sex pair can naturally procreate.

Please explain how two virtual strangers -- one hetero/one h0m0 -- with absolutely no connection other than the personal desire to create a biological child to be shared between their very different worlds -- can be an ideal parenting situation for a child.

Or don't bother.
Because neither can.

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#66 Feb 12, 2013
GlitterSucks wrote:
<quoted text>Your fair shot at your future is the one you make of it regardless of the cards you are dealt.
The biggest hurdle to a person's success is allowing other people to define it.

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#67 Feb 12, 2013
6was9 wrote:
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OK....
I hate it when I agree with you, and this will get me black listed from the conservative community...
All the gay folks that are my friends knew they were gay from a very young age.......5 or 6 years old.....
I believe it is a wiring issue and so do my gay friends........
Anyone that believes being gay /Bi is a life choice is either gay or does not have a clue what it is like to be ostracized from family or friends.
There I said it, to be clear.... 99% of the time I think you are full of shyte..........
But at least I am willing to be honest.........
No comment eh skimmer?

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#68 Feb 12, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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These two virtual strangers "arrived at a solution" that was solely convenient for themselves.
Many married couples do the same, both before the birth and after.

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#69 Feb 12, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Since homosexual couples cannot naturally reproduce, the question is, "What's biology got to do with it?"
And Darwin says, "Everything."
Biology 101 --
Children are the product of a father [male] and a mother [female].
Every single time.
And the most ideal child-rearing occurs when that child is reared in a home with both parents present.
You decide your ideal... no one else's. The alternative is to allow others to decide yours.

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#70 Feb 12, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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That's not an answer to the question.
If a kid is 2 years old and lives with a single parent as a result of two unmarried adults having a child or lives with a single parent as a result of a divorce, what difference does it make to the kid?
Successes, and failures, can be found in both scenarios, but a married couple is more likely to stay together than an unmarried one, thus lessening the chance of the child ending up with only one parent.

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#71 Feb 12, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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However, since homosexuals are confused about their own biology, they are automatically poor parenting candidates.
Procreation is a basic human right. You might not like the consequence, but you're going to have a tough time finding a logical reason to broadly deny a group of people that right.

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#72 Feb 12, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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Many married couples do the same, both before the birth and after.
Marriage isn't even in the picture here. There is no personal commitment between the parties from the start. For pete's sake, these strangers are one hetero and one h0m0 who shopped online for a random DNA donor whose sole intent was to combine DNA with another random donor to create a token child, who is then forced to balance his/her life between both donors' very different worlds.

All because the hetero didn't have or want a committed partner to help create the child she wants NOW...and all because the h0m0, even if he had a committed partner, CANNOT create the child he wants EVER.

Good lord...their photos are in Webster's next to the definition of "dysfunctional."

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#73 Feb 12, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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You decide your ideal... no one else's. The alternative is to allow others to decide yours.
Civilization cannot exist in your proposed relativistic society.
If every citizen were permitted to pursue what he holds as "his truth [i.e., ideal]," then there would be no objective standard for any law.

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#74 Feb 12, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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Procreation is a basic human right. You might not like the consequence, but you're going to have a tough time finding a logical reason to broadly deny a group of people that right.
I never suggested it could be prevented. I merely observe that the irresponsible and dysfunctional procreation we see being promoted today reflects a fundamental breakdown within society.

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#75 Feb 12, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Please explain how a same-sex pair can naturally procreate.
They can't, at least not with each other, but they can adopt, or use a surrogate. And common sense would indicate that someone who was willing to go to "lengths" to have a child would not honor that child any less than someone who "oops" got pregnant.

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#76 Feb 12, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Civilization cannot exist in your proposed relativistic society.
If every citizen were permitted to pursue what he holds as "his truth [i.e., ideal]," then there would be no objective standard for any law.
Of course there is: Does it demonstrably harm someone, or violate their superior rights? If so, you make a law against it.

As I said, if you want to decide someone else's standards, you're giving them the OK to decide yours, and I'm almost positive you wouldn't allow that, so why should they?

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#77 Feb 12, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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They can't, at least not with each other, but they can adopt, or use a surrogate. And common sense would indicate that someone who was willing to go to "lengths" to have a child would not honor that child any less than someone who "oops" got pregnant.
They dishonor the child by intentionally depriving him/her of both a father and a mother.

Nature's design requires a male and a female to create a child; thus, it follows naturally that a male and a female are required to raise and nurture that child to adulthood.

Just as it is unnatural for homosexuals to practice behaviors leading to an natural [evolutionary] dead-end, it is unnatural for homosexuals to parent children. This second departure from nature's prescription cannot be without unnatural consequences as well.

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#78 Feb 12, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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Of course there is: Does it demonstrably harm someone, or violate their superior rights? If so, you make a law against it.
As I said, if you want to decide someone else's standards, you're giving them the OK to decide yours, and I'm almost positive you wouldn't allow that, so why should they?
Harm and violation cannot be defined without an objective moral
standard.

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#79 Feb 12, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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I never suggested it could be prevented. I merely observe that the irresponsible and dysfunctional procreation we see being promoted today reflects a fundamental breakdown within society.
I think "society" will survive just fine. Those "ways" that show bad results will eventually fall out of favor among observant people, and the ones that show good results will draw followers.

Let the ideas compete on their merits by maintaining individual liberty as much as possible. The desire for forced compliance, to me, is a sign of one's lack of confidence in one's ways, and is, in my opinion, more likely to create resistance than followers.

Here's something else to think on. How well would society survive if we all did the same things, and it turned out one of them was fatally wrong?

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#80 Feb 12, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Please explain how a same-sex pair can naturally procreate.
Please explain how two virtual strangers -- one hetero/one h0m0 -- with absolutely no connection other than the personal desire to create a biological child to be shared between their very different worlds -- can be an ideal parenting situation for a child.
Or don't bother.
Because neither can.
Explain how an infertile straight couple can procreate - you avoided the issue. Why aren't the solutions for an infertile straight couple any different...or moral...than for a gay couple?

As far as straight couples being the ideal situation, it sure didn't work in your case, look how screwed up you are.

You continue to use circular "reasoning" to justify your hate for those who are not like you. Totally unacceptable.

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#81 Feb 12, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Harm and violation cannot be defined without an objective moral
standard.
Start with the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That will cover most situations.

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