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d pantz

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#108 May 3, 2014
Freaking hockey stick...

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#111 May 3, 2014
d pantz wrote:
<quoted text> which is the wrong conclusion to draw from the given data in the article. It does however reaffirm what previous studies have concluded about depression.
You're lucky I have IBS and have so much toilet time to post today.
The data isn't in the article, merely a summary of the conclusion.

There is, however, enough information to let you find all the data on your own, as you seem to have been unable to open the resources I've offered.

I'm willing to stick this conversation out a bit longer, but it'll be easier if you actually look at the data before pretending you've read and understood it. I still don't have high hopes for you being able to hold an informed conversation on a fairly complex scientific study, but I'll hang in a bit longer.

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#112 May 3, 2014
TonyD2 wrote:
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If it's not attempting to find a causation, the study is useless. If it attempts but fails to provide a causation, it's just as useless. Slapping the name "study" on it doesn't make it any better than the mere anecdotes you consistently put down.
I think you might be well served at taking a look at a range of other health studies. While they'll generally all have larger goals that can be linked to the discovery of causation with repeated study at scale, they'll all have this pattern of inquiry and the same pattern of conclusions.

It is repeated studies at scale, finding consistent results reflecting the same patterns in queried populations, which lets us then point to causation.
Duke for Mayor

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#113 May 3, 2014
tranpsosition wrote:
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I think you might be well served at taking a look at a range of other health studies. While they'll generally all have larger goals that can be linked to the discovery of causation with repeated study at scale, they'll all have this pattern of inquiry and the same pattern of conclusions.
It is repeated studies at scale, finding consistent results reflecting the same patterns in queried populations, which lets us then point to causation.
God bless your patience.

woof

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#114 May 4, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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God bless your patience.
woof
I don't feel patient. I'm afraid that this level of anti-intellectualism irritates me a bit. The fact that functional adults can't recognize the broad concepts and basic language behind scientific processes makes me sad. The idea that those not capable of understanding them, instead of working to better understand these factors, will instead last out against what they don't understand is just pathetic.

Question science, question studies, critically examine data, but do it from a place of informed understanding. The whole "hurr, hurr, if I don't understand it, it must be wrong" is wonderfully small and makes the whole of intelligent exchange smaller and sadder.

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