Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#20066 Aug 21, 2013
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>I see you have selective memory- "We're going to do anything we can to make sure that this is a one term President" Yurtle the Turtle Kentucky idiot.
WOW! You accuse someone else of selective memory on your/this thought?
The 'one term president' goal by either party was there in 2012, 2004, 1996, 1992, 1984, 1980 etc etc. Sometimes it happened sometimes it didn't. It's normal. geeez...talk about idiots!
HypocritePops

Canton, OH

#20067 Aug 21, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>WOW! You accuse someone else of selective memory on your/this thought?
The 'one term president' goal by either party was there in 2012, 2004, 1996, 1992, 1984, 1980 etc etc. Sometimes it happened sometimes it didn't. It's normal. geeez...talk about idiots!
Cry some more about name calling.
HypocritePops

Canton, OH

#20068 Aug 21, 2013
Annie wrote:
<quoted text>
Such a limp response. I expected better from you. I guess I had a weak moment thinking someone from Canton with numerous silly stupid unoriginal names had a tiny bit of wit as opposed to a large bit of limpness.
Don't worry Annie. Lots of things go limp when you are around.
HypocritePops

Canton, OH

#20069 Aug 21, 2013
I can see why I don't fit the bill. Statistically speaking, it takes a toddler to get a Republican stiff.
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#20070 Aug 21, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>WOW! You accuse someone else of selective memory on your/this thought?
The 'one term president' goal by either party was there in 2012, 2004, 1996, 1992, 1984, 1980 etc etc. Sometimes it happened sometimes it didn't. It's normal. geeez...talk about idiots!
I disagree. I don't remember Tom Daschle (Senate Majority Leader during the Bush years) EVER saying that their TOP priority was to deny G.W. Bush a second term. Maybe you could point me to that quote.

But here's Senate Majority Leader McConnell saying it:

Since: Aug 12

United States

#20071 Aug 21, 2013
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
I disagree. I don't remember Tom Daschle (Senate Majority Leader during the Bush years) EVER saying that their TOP priority was to deny G.W. Bush a second term. Maybe you could point me to that quote.
But here's Senate Majority Leader McConnell saying it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =W-A09a_gHJcXX
Daschle was too busy cheatin on taxes.
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#20072 Aug 21, 2013
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
I disagree. I don't remember Tom Daschle (Senate Majority Leader during the Bush years) EVER saying that their TOP priority was to deny G.W. Bush a second term. Maybe you could point me to that quote.
But here's Senate Majority Leader McConnell saying it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =W-A09a_gHJcXX
They do NOT have to say it. It IS the GOAL of the campaign or why contest the incumbent??
It doesn't matter if it's congress, governor, mayor or what ever, the goal is to beat the opponent or why run?
Why make campaign contrbutions if not to win? Why travel exhaustively & make speaches & give interviews if not to win.
The only reason to make the 'one term' statement is so that people that do not realize what the campaign actions mean will then understand.
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#20073 Aug 21, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>They do NOT have to say it. It IS the GOAL of the campaign or why contest the incumbent??
The MAIN goal of elected officials should be to serve our country by working together, not to spend most of your effort to thwart your opponents in the next election.

"Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, in an astoundingly telling moment halfway through President Obama's first term, told a reporter what had been the guiding strategy of Republicans in Congress. "The single most important thing we want to achieve," McConnell said, "is for President Obama to be a one-term president." They figured that if they refused to cooperate on anything, they could later tell voters that the president hadn't accomplished anything and that he had failed to reach across the aisle. McConnell and his caucus dove into that project hook, line and sinker, threatening to destroy the nation's economy by not raising the debt limit, blocking jobs legislation, eschewing compromise on the Bush tax cuts, refusing to staff the newly-created Consumer Financial Protection Bureau or the National Labor Relations Board, and blocking even uncontroversial federal judicial nominees.

The "one-term president" strategy created plenty of gridlock, set back the country's economic recovery and resulted in a historic vacancy crisis in the federal courts. The one thing it did not achieve was a one-term presidency."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marge-baker/whe...
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#20074 Aug 21, 2013
Pops wrote:
Lord! I have so much to add that I would have to key punch like Loren to get it done & I am not that good! lol
Truman was prez when I was born so your msg is something that I LIVED!!
Communities, families & churches took care of their own & 'Uncle Sam' does NOT realize that Uncle Sam is NOT quite a family member.
Thomas Jefferson also said..." A government big enough to give you everything that you want is also big enough to take it all away."
A very wise man.
What was better was how much less government we had.

I remember police pulling over drunks and following them home to make sure they didn't get in an accident instead of taking them to jail. I remember kids jumping up and down on the back seat or wrestling in the back of a station wagon with no child restraints. They didn't even wear seat belts, but then again, adults didn't either.

When two guys got into an argument at a bar or something, they agreed to do the gentlemanly thing and go outside. They didn't have knives or guns, they had pride. And if a police officer did come along, he would separate the two and tell them to cut it out.

You didn't need a city permit every time you wanted to put up a pool or install a new electrical outlet. Kids actually rode their bicycles with no safety gear. I remember those little stores where the clerks would sell kids cigarettes because back then, it was no big deal. The State wasn't sending out agents to act like minors and then give you a $1,000 fine or haul you off to jail.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#20075 Aug 21, 2013
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>I see you have selective memory- "We're going to do anything we can to make sure that this is a one term President" Yurtle the Turtle Kentucky idiot.
So what's your point?

If anything, the Republicans tried to help DumBama. Imagine the debt we'd be in today without the Republicans. It's the Republicans who fought the biggest jobs killer--Commie Care. It's the Republicans who pushed for shorter periods of unemployment benefits because employers look down on people that have been on unemployment for months on end. DumBama's solution? Make a law that says employers can't do that.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#20076 Aug 21, 2013
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>In case you haven't noticed, this is 2013 not 1776. Did people think government was a tyranny when everything was rationed during WWII? I could explain it but I can't make your fascist attitude understand it.
Obviously you don't understand it if you're trying to compare rationing to forcing people to purchase healthcare insurance, telling people how much salt they are allowed to have, if a restaurant is allowed to use transfats in their menu, how much you are allowed to weigh if you drive a truck for a living.

I bet if you cradle-to-gravers had your way, you would have government over your house to wipe your mouth after you ate dinner made from the food stamps they gave you.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#20077 Aug 21, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
So rationing is good now? Bread lines will be good too I assume?
Why not? According to Piglosi, unemployment is good for economy. See how much better we are today now that we've had those millions of people on unemployment throughout this recession?
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#20078 Aug 21, 2013
HypocritePops wrote:
I can see why I don't fit the bill. Statistically speaking, it takes a toddler to get a Republican stiff.
And a new government handout to make a Democrat stiff.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#20079 Aug 21, 2013
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
The MAIN goal of elected officials should be to serve our country by working together, not to spend most of your effort to thwart your opponents in the next election.
"Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, in an astoundingly telling moment halfway through President Obama's first term, told a reporter what had been the guiding strategy of Republicans in Congress. "The single most important thing we want to achieve," McConnell said, "is for President Obama to be a one-term president." They figured that if they refused to cooperate on anything, they could later tell voters that the president hadn't accomplished anything and that he had failed to reach across the aisle. McConnell and his caucus dove into that project hook, line and sinker, threatening to destroy the nation's economy by not raising the debt limit, blocking jobs legislation, eschewing compromise on the Bush tax cuts, refusing to staff the newly-created Consumer Financial Protection Bureau or the National Labor Relations Board, and blocking even uncontroversial federal judicial nominees.
The "one-term president" strategy created plenty of gridlock, set back the country's economic recovery and resulted in a historic vacancy crisis in the federal courts. The one thing it did not achieve was a one-term presidency."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marge-baker/whe...
Wow, you mean a Republican actually wanted less government and less taxes. That's a shock. No Republican has ever run on that platform before ;-D
Pops

Newport, KY

#20080 Aug 21, 2013
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
The MAIN goal of elected officials should be to serve our country by working together, not to spend most of your effort to thwart your opponents in the next election.
"Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, in an astoundingly telling moment halfway through President Obama's first term, told a reporter what had been the guiding strategy of Republicans in Congress. "The single most important thing we want to achieve," McConnell said, "is for President Obama to be a one-term president." They figured that if they refused to cooperate on anything, they could later tell voters that the president hadn't accomplished anything and that he had failed to reach across the aisle. McConnell and his caucus dove into that project hook, line and sinker, threatening to destroy the nation's economy by not raising the debt limit, blocking jobs legislation, eschewing compromise on the Bush tax cuts, refusing to staff the newly-created Consumer Financial Protection Bureau or the National Labor Relations Board, and blocking even uncontroversial federal judicial nominees.
The "one-term president" strategy created plenty of gridlock, set back the country's economic recovery and resulted in a historic vacancy crisis in the federal courts. The one thing it did not achieve was a one-term presidency."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marge-baker/whe...
I don't know who the other Pops from Batavia is but I do agree with officials being there to serve the country & the people but unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be that way. I think it is past time to replace McConnell, he has been there too long with too little to show for his time.
I also agree with the other pops on one thing, whether spoken or not, it is still the strategy or why campaign if not in effort to win?
The reason to run should be to serve the people & improve the country. The initial effort is still to win. The long term goal is to serve.
Pops

Newport, KY

#20081 Aug 21, 2013
HypocritePops wrote:
<quoted text>
Cry some more about name calling.
Someone got you Canton. I have never been to or posted from Batavia & I have never posted during typical work hours.
The other Pops didn't actually call anyone any name either.
You are so anxious to denigrate & ridicule others that you stepped in this one yourself by not looking where you were going. ROFL !
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#20082 Aug 21, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know who the other Pops from Batavia is but I do agree with officials being there to serve the country & the people but unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be that way. I think it is past time to replace McConnell, he has been there too long with too little to show for his time.
I also agree with the other pops on one thing, whether spoken or not, it is still the strategy or why campaign if not in effort to win?
The reason to run should be to serve the people & improve the country. The initial effort is still to win. The long term goal is to serve.
It's a liberal talking point.

What they are trying to mislead us on is that the Republicans deliberately stopped the advancement of our economy in order to make DumBama a one term President. That's not what any Republican said.

The truth of the matter is DumBama's only plan is to promote Socialism and more government dependency. He has no idea how to create jobs because job creation is done through the private sector--not government.

Much like with Bush, the liberals are trying to cover DumBama's azz by saying his failures are not his fault. DumBama's failures are the Republican Congresses fault. So they use Mitch as the poster boy for that poor excuse.

Looking at Republicans initiatives, most were designed to actually help our country. It's DumBama that's stopping the Republican progress--not the other way around.

The biggest obstruction with economic development is Commie Care, and most business leaders have stated so. It's the Republicans who introduced the repeal of Commie Care dozens of times which DumBama will have nothing to do with. Commie Care is the most Socialist law that ever plagued our country. It's a jobs killer and DumBama knows this which is why he stopped the employee mandate until after next election even though he has no authorization to do so. He believes he's the dictator now and nobody is going to stop his goal to keep Democrats in power in spite of their F-ups.
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#20083 Aug 21, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
It's a liberal talking point.
What they are trying to mislead us on is that the Republicans deliberately stopped the advancement of our economy in order to make DumBama a one term President.
Not just the economy --- judicial appointments, debt limits all kinds of actions that were done routinely done in the past became impossible to do, because Republicans were more concerned with making Obama look bad than doing their jobs. So they were happy to gum up the works by any means possible.

"The filibuster has been a tool of the minority in the Senate to defeat legislation supported by the majority. Historically, it was used only rarely to defeat critical legislation or presidential appointments. Since Democrats gained a majority in the Senate in the post Bush-Cheney era, Republicans have used it more in one year than it was previously used in 50."

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/article/201308...

Since: Aug 12

United States

#20084 Aug 21, 2013
“Ideologies aren't all that important. What's important is psychology. The Democratic constituency is just like a herd of cows. All you have to do is lay out enough silage and they come running. With Democrats all you have to do is make a lot of noise, lay out the hay, and be ready to use the ole cattle prod in case a few want to bolt the herd.
.
Eighty percent of the people who call themselves Democrats don't have a clue as to political reality. What amazes me is that you could take a group of people who are hard workers and convince them that they should support social programs that were the exact opposite of their own personal convictions. Put a little fear here and there and you can get people to vote any way you want. The democrat voter is basically dumb and lazy.
.
Truth is relative. Truth is what you can make the voter believe is the truth. If you're smart enough, truth is what you make the voter think it is.
Pops

Newport, KY

#20085 Aug 21, 2013
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Not just the economy --- judicial appointments, debt limits all kinds of actions that were done routinely done in the past became impossible to do, because Republicans were more concerned with making Obama look bad than doing their jobs. So they were happy to gum up the works by any means possible.
"The filibuster has been a tool of the minority in the Senate to defeat legislation supported by the majority. Historically, it was used only rarely to defeat critical legislation or presidential appointments. Since Democrats gained a majority in the Senate in the post Bush-Cheney era, Republicans have used it more in one year than it was previously used in 50."
http://www.shreveporttimes.com/article/201308...
So you don't believe that the bulk of contention between the two 'sides' is a simple difference of philosophy as opposed to simply 'making Obama look bad'? That would mean using tactics & strategy agreeable & disagreeable to some because of the plain logic of opposing views, wouldn't it?
That would be parallel to those that call Obama's opposition "racists". People shouldn't forget that he is equally white, 50% to 50%.
So why did MORE than 90% of the black population vote for Obama? Why did he campaign ONLY as BLACK; NOT Afro-American or Black American? Some have argued that he didn't even campaign as an AMERICAN. He resisted wearing even an American flag pin or putting his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance OR the Star Spangled Banner. Then he bowed to other Heads-of-State & apologized for America's behavior. How would a pragmatic person NOT see bias in those FACTS?
What flavor is their Kool-Aid?

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