Halliburton4Prez

Canton, OH

#19351 Jul 13, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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The problem as I see it is we allow people to vote the money out of other peoples pockets.
The federal government is going to give all Americans a new dishwasher, and it costs you nothing. Then where is the federal government going to get the money to buy those dishwashers? From people that are six figures and above.
It's like I said before, if you rob Peter to pay Paul, the Paul's of your society generally have no objection. It goes on in federal, state and even city elections.
For instance, several years ago, the city put up a levy for a vote to build new schools. I don't have any kids in school, why would I vote for new schools? But the people who did have children in schools voted it in. Now it costs me an extra $400.00 a year to pay for those schools. People voted money out of my pocket that made their lot in life better at my expense. Mind you some of those people don't even pay property tax. They are on HUD and the federal government pays, so why not vote in new schools at my expense?
Now lets say that only the people who had children in school had to pay for those new buildings. Do you think it would have passed? Hell no, not if they have to pay for it. They may have to pay an extra $100.00 per year because of their small house and property, but why should I pay four times that amount every year and not get anything out of it?
Rob Peter to pay Paul? But Peter has all his money hidden in offshore accounts. See Peter, with all his greed, has been a bloated leech on the neck of society for decades and decades. Then Peter blames the poor and powerless for all the nation's woes. I blame the people who had their hands on the wheel when the truck hit a wall. Let's see. Who was it that was in office when America starting spiraling into a recession?
X Rex

Anaheim, CA

#19352 Jul 13, 2013
turn to pass....oh never mind! Those "Bible Thumpers" are the biggest pervets around!
Halliburton4Prez

Canton, OH

#19353 Jul 13, 2013
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#19354 Jul 13, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Do away with all federal taxes and just have a progressive consumption tax.
Of course, a consumption tax is regressive not progressive, and falls disproportionately on the poor and middle classes.
xxxrayted wrote:
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That way the 47% of Americans who pay absolutely nothing in federal taxes will have their money in the pot too.
You are wrong about that. The 47% number refers to income tax only. If you look at total tax burden, the lowest 20% pay 19% of their income in taxes. The top 1% pays 33% of their income in taxes.
http://ctj.org/ctjreports/2013/04/who_pays_ta...

The consumption tax may seem appealing because it is easy to understand, and no one likes preparing their income taxes. But, consider the effect on old folks like myself:

"...if you just say scrap the income tax and replace it with a sales tax or a value added tax, then it would be a huge tax increase on old people, old people who are paying tax on their income as they're earning it, thinking that when they got to retirement they could spend money and they'd be paying a dollar for everything they bought.

If you replace, Bill actually did some estimates that if you replaced all of our taxes with the sales tax, the sales tax rate would be something like 60 percent, so you could just imagine getting into retirement and finding out the price of all the goods you're buying is now 60 percent higher than it was the day before. That would be like a 60 percent tax on all of the money that you had saved up over the course of your life."

http://www.brookings.edu/research/interviews/...
Halliburton4Prez

Canton, OH

#19355 Jul 13, 2013
"20 percent of Republicans said they believed Obama is the Antichrist"

That's the kind of batshit crazy we need running our country...right?
Pops

Newport, KY

#19356 Jul 13, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem as I see it is we allow people to vote the money out of other peoples pockets.
The federal government is going to give all Americans a new dishwasher, and it costs you nothing. Then where is the federal government going to get the money to buy those dishwashers? From people that are six figures and above.
It's like I said before, if you rob Peter to pay Paul, the Paul's of your society generally have no objection. It goes on in federal, state and even city elections.
For instance, several years ago, the city put up a levy for a vote to build new schools. I don't have any kids in school, why would I vote for new schools? But the people who did have children in schools voted it in. Now it costs me an extra $400.00 a year to pay for those schools. People voted money out of my pocket that made their lot in life better at my expense. Mind you some of those people don't even pay property tax. They are on HUD and the federal government pays, so why not vote in new schools at my expense?
Now lets say that only the people who had children in school had to pay for those new buildings. Do you think it would have passed? Hell no, not if they have to pay for it. They may have to pay an extra $100.00 per year because of their small house and property, but why should I pay four times that amount every year and not get anything out of it?
I understand what you are saying about school taxes as I have no kids in school either BUT I would vote for school taxes IF I felt that the funds were properly applied. Why you may ask. Because it is to EVERYONE'S benefit to have & to provide an education. NO one loses. The uneducated/undereducated are certainly the majority of criminals, addicts, welfare recipients & all around cancers of society later in their lives, generation after generation after generation.
X Rex

Anaheim, CA

#19357 Jul 13, 2013
mit believed in spaciemen and the "golden salamander"!
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#19358 Jul 13, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
For instance, several years ago, the city put up a levy for a vote to build new schools. I don't have any kids in school, why would I vote for new schools?
Because better schools benefit everyone. We need to educate the next generation, so they are able to eventually find employment and pay taxes. Or you can look forward to more people on welfare or in prisons (and you won't like paying for that, either!)

If these arguments don't persuade you, consider that a main determinant of property values are the quality of the school systems in that area. Would you like to make sure that your home holds its value?
John Hancock

Grove City, OH

#19362 Jul 13, 2013
So, I believe the election of 2010 is over. Amirite
LorenEberly

Centerburg, OH

#19364 Jul 13, 2013
Every American Citizen Responsibility:

Itís every American Citizens responsibility to demand Supreme Court and/or Congress impeach President, and recall Vice President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That defies USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every farmer, Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables the elderly, and every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay for food and fiber. Fund USA with same percentage of income derived from wages, pension, investment and independent business profit; and pay for every product and service they use for life.

And holds Farmers, Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americaís grandchildrenís children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Markets paying Farmers $6.36 for a bushel of corn 2150.42 cubic inches,$15.67 for a bushel 2150.42 cubic inches, of beans,$6.28 for a bushel of wheat 2150.42 cubic inches,$16.50 for a bushel of oats 2150.42 cubic inches,$76.50 per cwt. For a 220-250 pound hog,$100 -$107 cwt. for a choice Holstein steer,$375 -$450 per ton 20 short cwt. 2000 pounds for alfalfa hay,$200-$210 per ton 20 short cwt. 2000 pounds for wheat straw.

Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.

Pay property tax on state appraised value of their American Dream to fund schools. Pay interest on lottery winners winnings Legislators invest in school bonds.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on food and fiber consumed in restaurants and the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

And fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid; Makes food and fiber UNAFFORDABLE.
Pops

Newport, KY

#19365 Jul 13, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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Statistics also show that single-parent families have the most troubled offspring. Maybe we can get the federal government to pay parents to stay together.
That could possibly raise the murder rate! lol
I do have 3 grown sons & I was the legal custodian for better than 8 yrs. No thanks staying with someone that may have given me STD's,(luckily not)no matter what gov $$ I may have received to stay together.
In part, because of you school tax support & others, One son is a fine auto & truck mechanic, 1 has been in the navy 10 yrs this month with 4 yrs to go on this hitch & 1 is in his 4th yr of college.
I had paid school taxes for more than a decade B4 the 1st son was even born & will be paying likely for the rest of my life just like you & others. We should THANK each other for the resulting assets of education.
John Hancock

United States

#19366 Jul 13, 2013
Stop complaining old man
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#19367 Jul 13, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>In part, because of you school tax support & others, One son is a fine auto & truck mechanic, 1 has been in the navy 10 yrs this month with 4 yrs to go on this hitch & 1 is in his 4th yr of college.
I had paid school taxes for more than a decade B4 the 1st son was even born & will be paying likely for the rest of my life just like you & others. We should THANK each other for the resulting assets of education.
Yep, part of what made the "greatest generation" great was the G.I. Bill which educated that whole generation of veterans. It was good for them, and good for our country. Education is a great value, especially when you consider the alternative.

Congratulations on the success of your sons!
annominus

Washington Court House, OH

#19368 Jul 13, 2013
don't know my guess would be micky mouse e is very much a good choice and our votes don't really count anyway

Since: Aug 12

United States

#19369 Jul 13, 2013
Halliburton4Prez wrote:
<quoted text>
Rob Peter to pay Paul? But Peter has all his money hidden in offshore accounts. See Peter, with all his greed, has been a bloated leech on the neck of society for decades and decades. Then Peter blames the poor and powerless for all the nation's woes.
Yeah libs are soo much better. They just rob Peter and write a bad check to Paul.

Thank God Haliburton creates as many high paying jobs as they do for Uhhhmericans.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#19373 Jul 14, 2013
The time bomb was the dumbass from Arkansas threatening banks with red lining if they didnt give food stamp backed mortgages to minorities everyone on the planet knew couldn't ever repay them.
Halliburton4Prez

Canton, OH

#19375 Jul 14, 2013
Yep. Just a bunch of racist. corporate fetch boys. You guys sure do try to rewrite history a whole lot. It's almost as if you are ashamed of your terrible, and purely greed driven political decisions. I forget. How was our debt under Clinton? Cue the propaganda emailed newsletter responses. I know. Quote the Koch Brothers Heritage Foundation some more.
Halliburton4Prez

Canton, OH

#19377 Jul 14, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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Better question: why didn't DumBama and the Democrats rescind the law of churches not paying taxes when they had full power of the federal government? I'll answer that one more time: to buy votes.
The next question is, how does a totally failed President win a second term if not by giving out free stuff? The man is an utter failure, and he got reelected. Going on five years with unemployment still at the 7.5% range and now 17 trillion in debt and growing. the sad part is, people would be stupid enough to elect him again if he could run for a third term.
Why do you refer to the president, that the majority of hard working Americans voted for twice, as Dumbama? Which of these two sentences sounds right? Dumb as the President of the most powerful nation in the world...or... dumb as a truck driver.
animal control

Bellefontaine, OH

#19378 Jul 14, 2013
"the majority of hard working Americans voted for twice"......????

if you actually believe dat, then uu scitzo-franic, stuped or ignorant and possibly all 3 @ the same tyme......Baby!

for instance, barry lost springfied and lima (again) wort this last tyme......he is ans always has been very unpopular in west central ohio and normally only enjoys 30% of the popular vote and a discusting 1 in 10 approval by the total population...he barely got 20% of auglaze coutys votes...and in west virginny he was trounced by a prison inmate @ the polls

Judd is also known as federal prison inmate Number 11593-051 at the Beaumont Federal Correctional Institution in Beaumont, Texas, where Judd is serving a 210-month sentence for extortion and making threats

Federal Inmate No. 11593-051 Beats Obama In Ten West Virginia Counties

http://www.bing.com/images/search...

no charge
Halliburton4Prez

Canton, OH

#19380 Jul 14, 2013
animal control wrote:
"the majority of hard working Americans voted for twice"......????
if you actually believe dat, then uu scitzo-franic, stuped or ignorant and possibly all 3 @ the same tyme......Baby!
for instance, barry lost springfied and lima (again) wort this last tyme......he is ans always has been very unpopular in west central ohio and normally only enjoys 30% of the popular vote and a discusting 1 in 10 approval by the total population...he barely got 20% of auglaze coutys votes...and in west virginny he was trounced by a prison inmate @ the polls
Judd is also known as federal prison inmate Number 11593-051 at the Beaumont Federal Correctional Institution in Beaumont, Texas, where Judd is serving a 210-month sentence for extortion and making threats
Federal Inmate No. 11593-051 Beats Obama In Ten West Virginia Counties
http://www.bing.com/images/search...
no charge
You can barely form whole sentences...like GW Bush. Must be all that home schooling.

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