Since: Aug 11

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#17252 Jan 12, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Bush blamed Clinton for 911? When did that happen?
I dont remember that either.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#17253 Jan 12, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Bush blamed Clinton for 911? When did that happen?
After 9/11.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2005/08/30/...

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,859...

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/25/opinion/ass...
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#17254 Jan 12, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
Very nice, except none of these links have anything that says Bush blamed Clinton for 911. The closest was the first link where he said our lack of responses to past terror attacks emboldened the terrorists. This is true. Even the terrorists said this.
Save Yourself

Canton, OH

#17255 Jan 12, 2013
titonton divaunte pants wrote:
<quoted text> ha! Haliburton equals blackwater. Right? Opps! http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/...
Have fun responding with your foot in your mouth, lemming. thread didn't exist during bushes final term. This sight barely did. Do I know you?
Opps? You don't know me but then you can barely form thoughts into words so I'm ok with that. You have fun watching the country you live in leaving your cave man, flat earther @ss in the dust of history.
Save Yourself

Canton, OH

#17256 Jan 12, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>There were 'peeps' as you put it or you wouldn't have a clue that it happened. The media climbed right on to the band wagon & yelled from the mountain tops.
You are just too biased & clueless to recognize the truth or to be in touch with reality.
You are crazed. If you didn't hear it from the media, then how did you find out that Bush was starting an unfounded and unpaid for Holy War after he lied to Congress? Those patriots at Cheney's Haliburton were real heroes when they poisoned our troops with diseased water. Thank god this country has left feeble minded folks like you behind. Other than every single "truth" the GOP has ever stated turning out to be an absolute lie to perpetuate their greed and racism, what color is the sky in your world? Ours is blue.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#17257 Jan 12, 2013
Save Yourself wrote:
<quoted text>
Opps? You don't know me but then you can barely form thoughts into words so I'm ok with that. You have fun watching the country you live in leaving your cave man, flat earther @ss in the dust of history.
my came man azz prefers 80 degrees an an ocean.

been home 4 days and miss it again till next Monday.
LorenEberly

Mount Vernon, OH

#17258 Jan 12, 2013
Ford Plans:

Ford plans to pay union workers, consumers, taxpayers and 2200 more salaried employees to produce Ford product and service.

USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demands Ford and every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, taxpayer, and salaried employee to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; reelected Obnoxious President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That defies USA Labor, The Constitution, and Realities demands; and hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) Ford Stockholders, OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of Ford product and service and every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands makes it IMPOSSIBLE for President Obama and Congress to avoid fiscal cliff and balance every budget. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes it IMPOSSIBLE for Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children to pay Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. With the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
LorenEberly

Mount Vernon, OH

#17259 Jan 12, 2013
Earned Income Tax Credit:

The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; reelected Obnoxious President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That holds Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund free tax filing for Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

With money derived from wages (union contract), investment and independent business profit.
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#17261 Jan 12, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
No blame game? You seem to forget them blaming Clinton for 9/11.
Bush didn't try to circumvent the constitution? Google the Patriot Act.
Sry Che, I don't recall Bush ever blaming Clinton for 9/11. Clinton WAS blamed for NOT taking custody of Osama when the offer was made by, I think the Sudan.
And that blame was NOT made by Bush personally. The blame of Clinton directly for the destruction of the Towers was never made at all (except maybe by talking heads). The blame was Just for Osama. Your links do not dispute this claim although they were a little interesting.
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#17262 Jan 12, 2013
LorenEberly wrote:
Earned Income Tax Credit:
The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; reelected Obnoxious President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.
That holds Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.
To fund free tax filing for Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.
With money derived from wages (union contract), investment and independent business profit.
Loren, With all respect, how many people do you think will read & comprehend your very long posts? I have read some of them & they at times cover 2-5 topics & lose fluidity thus losing the reader at times, myself included.
IF I want to comment/reply, I & others get lost in what part we want to reply to or even what your post may be about. Please break them down a bit. I believe that You have a thought & a msg or you wouldn't be posting.
This forum allows for 4,000 characters per post & you often use well OVER 3,000. Almost a book if not a magazine. That limits communication somewhat. TYVM
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#17263 Jan 12, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Loren, With all respect, how many people do you think will read & comprehend your very long posts? I have read some of them & they at times cover 2-5 topics & lose fluidity thus losing the reader at times, myself included.
IF I want to comment/reply, I & others get lost in what part we want to reply to or even what your post may be about. Please break them down a bit. I believe that You have a thought & a msg or you wouldn't be posting.
This forum allows for 4,000 characters per post & you often use well OVER 3,000. Almost a book if not a magazine. That limits communication somewhat. TYVM
I've tried to explain this to him many times. A good writer keeps readers hanging on every word. Loren bores people to death with his lack of brevity and his insistence of listing every person, entity or organization he's making reference to. He doesn't understand the term "We get it."

He's a self-impressed blogger that cares more about writing than he does participating in a continuing conversation and changing subjects in the middle of the topic. In short, he's annoying.
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#17264 Jan 12, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
I've tried to explain this to him many times. A good writer keeps readers hanging on every word. Loren bores people to death with his lack of brevity and his insistence of listing every person, entity or organization he's making reference to. He doesn't understand the term "We get it."
He's a self-impressed blogger that cares more about writing than he does participating in a continuing conversation and changing subjects in the middle of the topic. In short, he's annoying.
Loren may have an IQ that would humble many if not most or be autistic or whatever but again, IF people can't comprehend the msg, the effort is for naught. Sometimes book learning overwhelms others. So be it. But then it is a waste to try to communicate with those that can not follow the messenger no matter the reason that they can't follow.
YOU have tried & I have tried. After this, I guess that we just ignore Lorens post which is NOT what Loren wants or Loren wouldn't be posting. Let's see if the msg gets thru this time.
I totally respect Lorens effort to share thoughts but if he/she can't adjust to the masses, he/she is wasting time & effort. And Loren is permitted to do that.... ignored that is. Along with wasting their time.
I can deal with that from this point on.
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#17265 Jan 12, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>There are many diffs between O & Bush. Largely involving personal character. Bush & the repubs didn't blame Clinton everyday for whatever issues were in the news day to day, Bush accepted responsibility or kept his mouth shut, NO blame game. Like his father, GHW & Reagen, when their terms were up, they shut up, unlike Carter, Clinton & we know how Obama is now & likely will be later.
Then Bush set out to strengthen the country in lawful ways, NOT try to change or circumvent the constitution.
I recall the intell compiled to justify the iraq war, was said to be collected by the "clinton" intelligence community. Up until 9-11 the economic decline was blammed on the "economic bubble" during the clinton presidency. What I've noticed is it dosent matter who the president is, they seem to do the bidding of global corporations and banks, who seem to think their escapades around the world are at the expense of the disposable united states tax payer.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch...
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#17266 Jan 12, 2013
Bush cut taxes and spent too much. Obama promised all the health care and economic stimulus, all while balancing the budget by ending our involvement in the middle east. Both have had a majority of the elected representatives in their "party". I think democrats will win the next elections, if they can show up more than every 4 years.
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#17267 Jan 12, 2013
Once every 4 years.
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#17268 Jan 12, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>you got that right, the Patriot Act is a good example of circumventing the US Constitution.
what should we do about it?Certainly not what has been done over the past 4 years with the bill. obama had a chance to strike down or at least act like he had a pair and try. Instead he eagerly amends more questionable legislation to it.

Since: Aug 11

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#17269 Jan 12, 2013
titonton divaunte pants wrote:
<quoted text> what should we do about it?Certainly not what has been done over the past 4 years with the bill. obama had a chance to strike down or at least act like he had a pair and try. Instead he eagerly amends more questionable legislation to it.
I know it, and just proof that both modern Republicans & Democrats see the same vision of this new Authoritarianism Society here in the United States and just have minor differences how the new Authoritariansim should be implemented which like people like Dianne Feinstein want to fast track it as implemented as fast as they can.

Authoritarianism

Authoritarianism is a form of social organization characterized by submission to authority as well as the administration of said authority. In politics, an authoritarian government is one in which political authority is concentrated in a small group of politicians. It is usually opposed to individualism and libertarianism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarianism
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#17270 Jan 13, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>I know it, and just proof that both modern Republicans & Democrats see the same vision of this new Authoritarianism Society here in the United States and just have minor differences how the new Authoritariansim should be implemented which like people like Dianne Feinstein want to fast track it as implemented as fast as they can.
Authoritarianism
Authoritarianism is a form of social organization characterized by submission to authority as well as the administration of said authority. In politics, an authoritarian government is one in which political authority is concentrated in a small group of politicians. It is usually opposed to individualism and libertarianism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarianism
its not authoritarian when we have a metric butt load of people who still vote for the 2 "parties", or think bush never infringed our rights, and then others who just ignore when obama does it.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#17271 Jan 13, 2013
titonton divaunte pants wrote:
<quoted text> its not authoritarian when we have a metric butt load of people who still vote for the 2 "parties", or think bush never infringed our rights, and then others who just ignore when obama does it.
Well, we all know the left is loaded with hypocrites. Gore's organization refused to sell his worthless network to a fellow American (Glenn Beck) and instead, sold it to Al Jazeera. Not only are they supported with oil money, but his company made sure to sell it before the new DumBama tax increases. You know, Gore didn't want to pay his "fair share" and nobody on the left criticized it.

Speaking of DumBama, did you know he recently put his okie-dokie to extend the surveillance act? And then we have Gitmo plus the execution style murder of Bin Laden. Imagine the outrage on the left if Bush managed to get Bin Laden first, and then hid all evidence of his execution from the public saying he buried him at sea. While on that subject, DumBama exercised his bragging rights which led to the death of many members of Seal Team 6 when the terrorists shot down their helicopter in revenge. Barely made the MSM. And these losers reelected the guy.

I could go on and on, but the point is that it's not the action taken by a President that psses off the left, it's who takes the action. It doesn't matter if we have record deficits or the fact DumBama spent more money in three years than Bush did in eight, it's all fine as long as it's a Democrat doing it.

Hypocrites, every last one of them.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#17272 Jan 13, 2013
titonton divaunte pants wrote:
<quoted text> its not authoritarian when we have a metric butt load of people who still vote for the 2 "parties", or think bush never infringed our rights, and then others who just ignore when obama does it.
Patriot Act is all about Authoritarianism and the next step is the worst form of Authoriatarianism which is Totaltarianism.

Totalitarianism (or totalitarian rule) is a political system where the state holds total authority over the society and seeks to control all aspects of public and private life wherever necessary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism

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