Who do you support for Governor in Oh...
Coffee Drinker

Westerville, OH

#939 Oct 21, 2010
Sawber wrote:
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Says the die-hard Socialist...
So in other words you can't find anything but contrived propaganda?
Why do you think the laws in FL should not have been followed? Any other laws that should be ignored?
That a neo-classic. When all else fail play the Faux News "contrived" socialist card.
A LAYMAN'S GUIDE TO THE SUPREME COURT DECISION IN BUSH V. GORE by Mark H. Levine, Attorney at Law: The US Supreme Court made clear that the Florida Supreme Court did not change the rules of the election. But the US Supreme Court found the failure of the Florida Court to change the rules was wrong. The Legislature declared that the only legal standard for counting vote is "clear intent of the voter." The Florida Court was condemned for not adopting a clearer standard. The US Supreme Court said the Florida Supreme Court should have "adopted adequate statewide standards for determining what is a legal vote". However, only the state Legislature could "adopt" a new law. If the Court had adopted new standards, it would have been overturned for changing the rules. And if it didn't, it's overturned for not changing the rules. That means that no matter what the Florida Supreme Court did, legal votes could never be counted.
So the law really wasn't ignored so much as it was "stolen" by a really bad loophole. In the end the result was the same. Of course, all you have to do is put your fingers in your ears and hum. The problem is so much bullshit has been thrust upon the American people the line between reality and propaganda has been blurred.
Now, since this forum is about the Governor's race I propose to you that Kasich has strayed from his "roots" and has become part of the new "laissez faire machine". This machine hasn't worked very well because the free market system unfortunately cannot regulate itself, greed is too big an influence. I'm looking for some quotes from Mr. Kasich admitting while the smaller government interference in the markets in theory is a good idea, just say that he didn't approve of the way the markets wrote their own rules for their own benefit. Financial deregulation began in the late 70's and early 80's starting with the mortgage industry. The Republican's held both houses from 1981-87 and just let the market do what they wanted without much debate. Of course, Mr. Kasisch was a congressman during that period, and he actually did a pretty good job as the chairman of the House Budget Committee. I do give him kudos that he was instrumental in the $280 billion plus surplus during the Clinton administration. Then he disappeared for the most part while the Bush clan (again the Republican's controlled both Houses 2003-2006) trashed "his" budget "surplus" and all of the other stuff if you would have read beyond line one. Because I haven't really seen him show his true "independent" colors and say "yea, I worked for Lehman, but these dudes were bad and really helped frig stuff up and I'm for serious reform", disclose his financial history and such, I don't know that I can trust him. Sorry, I think [unfortunately] he's damaged goods.
By the way, I voted for Reagan and Bush Sr.(and supported Kasich during his congressional stint) It's unfortunate that the far right wacko's have polluted the Republican Party. I might consider him if he'd run as Libertarian or Independent. Sorry, guilty by association
Vote smart, not angry.
hunky77

Twinsburg, OH

#940 Oct 21, 2010
You voted for
John Kasich - Republican

Yes he is the man Iíll be voting for.
hunky77

Twinsburg, OH

#941 Oct 21, 2010
Oh my, now Iím double voting like the dumbocrats...
Ima Parrot

Westerville, OH

#942 Oct 21, 2010
hunky77 wrote:
Oh my, now Iím double voting like the dumbocrats...
"SQUAWK": Dumbo was an elephant.
INS

Westerville, OH

#943 Oct 21, 2010
sidney green card wrote:
Kasich knows how to turn an economy around. Strickland knows how to make an economy Round. If Strickland was fiscally responsible and stood on the midwestern values of every Ohioan, he'd have a chance. But he doesn't.
Can't vote with a Green Card, Sidney.
mike your

Portsmouth, OH

#944 Oct 21, 2010
good job

Since: Oct 09

Harv wishes he were me

#945 Oct 21, 2010
Jerry Muzyka wrote:
Why in the world would you give the Republicans control of our state or federal governments after they practically sent this nation into a depression. Candidate Kasich was part of the problem when he worked for Wall Street. Even today, he refuses to disclose his Wall Street income and bonues. His only solution is lower taxes and his plan to bring his Wall Street buddies on board to solve Ohio's problems. What a hoax(No solutions to help resolve our financial situation other than to lower our taxes) he is playing on the people of Ohio! Wake up Ohio!
So Jerry, please list the legislation the Republicans passed that supposedly "practically sent this nation into a depression."

Please list the bill numbers.

Good luck. Your accusations are hollow without evidence to back up your wild claims. I can provide where B. Frank testified that Freddie/Fannie were at no risk, in good shape, and that lenders should make it easier for borrowers to get money.
Kim Jung-il

Westerville, OH

#946 Oct 21, 2010
Nickled Dimed wrote:
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I heard the Lt Gov candidate speak briefly this evening. She actually told voters that, if they didn't like the Green party, to consider either the Socialist or Libertarian parties - in other words, it's a free country. What a concept!
You don't like the concept of a free country? You'll love my country then.
Kim Jung-il

Westerville, OH

#947 Oct 21, 2010
bluntforce wrote:
I could not(in 2006)and would not vote for a supposed "man of the cloth", the "Reverend" Strickland, who supports the killing of innocent babies. We'll remember this idiot as "One Term Ted."
Bluntforce? I like it. You would do well in my country commrade.

Since: Oct 09

Harv wishes he were me

#948 Oct 21, 2010
Coffee Drinker wrote:
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That a neo-classic. When all else fail play the Faux News "contrived" socialist card.
Vote smart, not angry.
Right after the contrived Tea party card was played...

Levine opinion, although nice, is irrelevant.

The law was the law. You can't change the law after the fact, after they counted the votes, in order to push it one direction. The law was actually VERY clear. It didn't say "clear intent of the voter." It defined the standards for the clear intent of the voter.

And anyway, with the recount Gore wanted, Bush STILL would have won.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2001-...

"George W. Bush would have won a hand count of Florida's disputed ballots if the standard advocated by Al Gore had been used, the first full study of the ballots reveals. Bush would have won by 1,665 votes ó more than triple his official 537-vote margin ó if every dimple, hanging chad and mark on the ballots had been counted as votes, a USA TODAY/Miami Herald/Knight Ridder study shows. "

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles...
Kim Jung-il

Westerville, OH

#949 Oct 21, 2010
Sawber wrote:
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So Jerry, please list the legislation the Republicans passed that supposedly "practically sent this nation into a depression."
Please list the bill numbers.
Good luck. Your accusations are hollow without evidence to back up your wild claims. I can provide where B. Frank testified that Freddie/Fannie were at no risk, in good shape, and that lenders should make it easier for borrowers to get money.
Jerry my Commrade, does this help you:

"Clinton, Republicans agree to deregulation of US financial system
By Martin McLaughlin
1 November 1999

An agreement between the Clinton administration and congressional Republicans, reached during all-night negotiations which concluded in the early hours of October 22, sets the stage for passage of the most sweeping banking deregulation bill in American history, lifting virtually all restraints on the operation of the giant monopolies which dominate the financial system.

The proposed Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 would do away with restrictions on the integration of banking, insurance and stock trading imposed by the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933, one of the central pillars of Roosevelt's New Deal. Under the old law, banks, brokerages and insurance companies were effectively barred from entering each others' industries, and investment banking and commercial banking were separated."
im voting

Pleasanton, CA

#950 Oct 21, 2010
looks close
Tess

Middleboro, MA

#951 Oct 21, 2010
Governor Strickland is trustworthy.He did not create the bad economy, and I hope Ohioans don't forget and understand the republican empty blame rhetoric.
dennis kucinich

Avon Lake, OH

#952 Oct 21, 2010
Dems ruined this state

“More than TWO parties!”

Since: Feb 10

Columbus

#953 Oct 21, 2010
Scott Bigham wrote:
Green All the Way!!!
I would consider Green over either red or blue at this point.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#954 Oct 22, 2010
I would agree with the green or purple or black. Anything but red.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#955 Oct 22, 2010
Kasich is a slime ball. Enough said!
A Mom

United States

#956 Oct 22, 2010
Coffee Drinker, SCOTUS told the Florida court they COULD NOT CHANGE THEIR LAW IN THE MIDDLE OF THE VOTE COUNTING!
I don't have time to go through all of Levine's writing, but what you claim is not consistent with his stance on the issues. He isn't that stupid.
pauleldridge

Portsmouth, OH

#957 Oct 22, 2010
I've followed Mr.Stricklands career these last umteen years. He knows his stuff.
Will

Warren, NJ

#958 Oct 22, 2010
I don't trust Kasich he is a snakeoil salesman

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