Canton

Canton, OH

#32895 Aug 17, 2014
True or false? Every American citizen could fulfill all of their hunting and home protection needs with a 12 gauge shotgun and a 38 caliber pistol.

This is undeniably true, so let's all ponder why the paranoid Tea Baggers would need to hoard military style guns like they were in a compound in Waco. Let's see...David Koresh at Waco was an out spoken anti-government Evangelical Christian who hoarded military style weapons and groped little kids...
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#32896 Aug 17, 2014
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
Clinton was a pretty good gun seller too. You know. The first time you guys cried about the absurd notion of our government taking the millions of undocumented firearms in this country away from us. So yah...just like you guys said. Obama took all of our guns away and now a Obamacare Death Panel is going to decide if Grandma gets to live or die. Those completely batshit crazy notions would be a lot funnier if they weren't actual claims you Tea Baggers have made. Imagine adults claiming Obamacare Death Panels. Imagine how stupid someone would have to be to think the government could take all the guns away in this country. Us thinking folks didn't bat an eye because we knew it was yet another lame propaganda stunt by the GOP. How completely absurd.
Mississippi Proposed Bill Publishes Name and Social Security Number of Gun Owners
January 13, 2014 3:37 pm

\BY DANA CRISWELL – January 13, 2014

Today Mississippi Representative Omeria Scott (D-District 80) introduced House Bill 231. In her bill she proposes that anyone who sells ammunition in the State of Mississippi be required to keep records of each sale. If passed,

every merchant, dealer or pawnbroker that sells pistol or rifle cartridges, shall keep a record of all sales of such cartridges sold, showing the description of the kind and caliber of cartridges so sold, the name, address and driver’s license or social security number of the purchaser, and the description of and the quantity of cartridges and date of sale.

These records, which include social security number, name and address would be “open to public inspection at any time to persons desiring to see it.”

http://www.mississippigunnews.com/mississippi...

End of the line for the lead bullet? Regulations, bans force switch to 'green' ammo
By Perry ChiaramontePublished December 21, 2013

When the last bullet-producing lead smelter closes its doors on Dec. 31, it will mark a major victory for those who say lead-based ammunition pollutes the environment, but others warn 'green' bullets will cost more, drive up copper prices and do little to help conservation.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/21/end-line...

New York City confiscating rifles and shotguns
1:55 PM 12/06/2013

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/06/new-york-ci...

Dem bill would trigger huge new taxes on guns, ammo
By Perry ChiaramontePublished August 26, 2013

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/26/ho...

States look to tax guns, ammo
Judy Keen, USA TODAY 5:28 p.m. EDT April 7, 2013

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/201...

NY Gun Confiscation Underway – Citizens Told to Turn in Pistol Owner ID & Firearms
Published on Monday, April 08, 2013

Read more: http://www.ammoland.com/2013/04/new-york-gun-...

Darn, I'm out of room ;-(

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#32897 Aug 17, 2014
Slumlord Weather Expert wrote:
<quoted text>Let's see, a tax dodging cattle rancher bilks taxpayers out of a small fortune, and the "good conservatives" line up (behind their wife, children, and guns, of course) and cheer, but an angry mob loots a few stores and suddenly it's "the gubment should come and shoot all them thar Liberal Democrats with machine guns".
Yep, that makes sense...
sounds like a Liberal and prefer Liberalism as FDR Called it.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Lodi, OH

#32898 Aug 17, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
We conservatives conserve. I mean, it's your dunce-in-cheif that's responsible for our ammo being so expensive and scarce today. I remember how great it was in this country before Hussein took over. They used to have sales on ammunition when you purchased it by the case.
No, Taliban Ray. Your ammo is so expensive because your beloved "job creators" saw another opportunity to exploit stupid people by scaring them about the "wild man mulatto" in the White House who was going to make bullets illegal. Right on cue, you guys got your wallets out to give them all your money and thank them for warning you. Kind of like how your boss cancelled your health insurance and convinced you it was all Obama's fault.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#32899 Aug 17, 2014
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
I can easily walk into at least 3 gun shops within 5 miles of my home and buy a trunk full of AR15 rounds today. There's your mouth and then there's the real world.
3/11/2013 @ 8:00AM 1,123,554 views
1.6 Billion Rounds Of Ammo For Homeland Security? It's Time For A National Conversation

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/2013/0...

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#32900 Aug 17, 2014
Canton wrote:
True or false? Every American citizen could fulfill all of their hunting and home protection needs with a 12 gauge shotgun and a 38 caliber pistol.
This is undeniably true, so let's all ponder why the paranoid Tea Baggers would need to hoard military style guns like they were in a compound in Waco. Let's see...David Koresh at Waco was an out spoken anti-government Evangelical Christian who hoarded military style weapons and groped little kids...
David Koresh and Obama's buddy Liberal Democrat Bill Ayers who considered himself part of the New Left Liberal Democrats in the 1960's have something in common is what you are saying since both were Anti-Government.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Lodi, OH

#32901 Aug 17, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Mississippi Proposed Bill Publishes Name and Social Security Number of Gun Owners
January 13, 2014 3:37 pm
\BY DANA CRISWELL – January 13, 2014
Today Mississippi Representative Omeria Scott (D-District 80) introduced House Bill 231. In her bill she proposes that anyone who sells ammunition in the State of Mississippi be required to keep records of each sale. If passed,
every merchant, dealer or pawnbroker that sells pistol or rifle cartridges, shall keep a record of all sales of such cartridges sold, showing the description of the kind and caliber of cartridges so sold, the name, address and driver’s license or social security number of the purchaser, and the description of and the quantity of cartridges and date of sale.
These records, which include social security number, name and address would be “open to public inspection at any time to persons desiring to see it.”
http://www.mississippigunnews.com/mississippi...
End of the line for the lead bullet? Regulations, bans force switch to 'green' ammo
By Perry ChiaramontePublished December 21, 2013
When the last bullet-producing lead smelter closes its doors on Dec. 31, it will mark a major victory for those who say lead-based ammunition pollutes the environment, but others warn 'green' bullets will cost more, drive up copper prices and do little to help conservation.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/21/end-line...
New York City confiscating rifles and shotguns
1:55 PM 12/06/2013
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/06/new-york-ci...
Dem bill would trigger huge new taxes on guns, ammo
By Perry ChiaramontePublished August 26, 2013
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/26/ho...
States look to tax guns, ammo
Judy Keen, USA TODAY 5:28 p.m. EDT April 7, 2013
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/201...
NY Gun Confiscation Underway – Citizens Told to Turn in Pistol Owner ID & Firearms
Published on Monday, April 08, 2013
Read more: http://www.ammoland.com/2013/04/new-york-gun-...
Darn, I'm out of room ;-(
Quite an accomplishment posting all of that through all of those tears.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#32902 Aug 17, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>
No, Taliban Ray. Your ammo is so expensive because your beloved "job creators" saw another opportunity to exploit stupid people by scaring them about the "wild man mulatto" in the White House who was going to make bullets illegal. Right on cue, you guys got your wallets out to give them all your money and thank them for warning you. Kind of like how your boss cancelled your health insurance and convinced you it was all Obama's fault.
Ammunition is in great demand partly because of supply and demand, something liberals know nothing about. With liberals, it's always a conspiracy theory and not business which is why Democrats should never be in charge of anything.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Lodi, OH

#32903 Aug 17, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Ammunition is in great demand partly because of supply and demand, something liberals know nothing about. With liberals, it's always a conspiracy theory and not business which is why Democrats should never be in charge of anything.
Right, supply and demand. Gun and ammunition companies gin up demand by scaring the hell out of you that the "wild man mulatto" is going to take your guns away. You get played for the fool by absolutely everyone you encounter. It's no conspiracy. It's the strong preying on the weak.
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#32904 Aug 17, 2014
Canton wrote:
True or false? Every American citizen could fulfill all of their hunting and home protection needs with a 12 gauge shotgun and a 38 caliber pistol.
This is undeniably true, so let's all ponder why the paranoid Tea Baggers would need to hoard military style guns like they were in a compound in Waco. Let's see...David Koresh at Waco was an out spoken anti-government Evangelical Christian who hoarded military style weapons and groped little kids...
False ! Not if the 12-15 gangsters that you claim to see were assaulting the home.And that's using your own posts
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#32905 Aug 17, 2014
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>

(Cut to decades old footage of Ronald Reagan calling the counter culture a bunch of long haired animals/ Cut to Bush Sr. calling atheists un-American.)
Or, for those of us that have been around a bit longer, this now mostly forgotten fellow, speaking for "the silent majority":

Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#32906 Aug 17, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>That's funny. I know quite a few people and a relative who got sent to Iraq. Not ONE of them WANTED to go. They were ordered.
Yea, I didn't agree with Ray's last sentence either.
Enlistees are made aware of the open possibilities of enlistment at that time.
But do you know what your friends did do? They honored their commitments & respected the chain of command. They are to be commended & respected for that.
And thanked for enlisting.
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#32907 Aug 17, 2014
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>
Yea, I didn't agree with Ray's last sentence either.
Enlistees are made aware of the open possibilities of enlistment at that time.
But do you know what your friends did do? They honored their commitments & respected the chain of command. They are to be commended & respected for that.
And thanked for enlisting.
Pops, one thing I've changed my mind about is the draft. It was so hated, I was happy to see it go away. But now I realize it was the end of war being a burden shared by all families. Young men from wealthy families seldom volunteer for military service any more. The result is that a President can take us to war, knowing that it won't be their family and friends that will die in the effort. One major difference between Bush I and Bush II is that George H.W. had a personal familiarity with the terrible cost of war.
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#32908 Aug 17, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Or, for those of us that have been around a bit longer, this now mostly forgotten fellow, speaking for "the silent majority":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =z0Kxg10FU4EXX
Yep, A typical Classic speech from one of "America's greatest generation". Those that experienced the Great Depression & WWII had something that was unique alright.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#32909 Aug 17, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Pops, one thing I've changed my mind about is the draft. It was so hated, I was happy to see it go away. But now I realize it was the end of war being a burden shared by all families. Young men from wealthy families seldom volunteer for military service any more.
http://www.heritage.org/static/reportimages/0...
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#32910 Aug 17, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>
Right, supply and demand. Gun and ammunition companies gin up demand by scaring the hell out of you that the "wild man mulatto" is going to take your guns away. You get played for the fool by absolutely everyone you encounter. It's no conspiracy. It's the strong preying on the weak.
May 21, 2014, 8:14 AM
What's behind the national ammo shortage?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/whats-behind-the-...

The ammunition shortage is a real thing. Here’s why it happened.
Updated by Danielle Kurtzleben on July 1, 2014, 3:30 p.m. ET

\Gun dealers report shortages of ammunition
Chuck Raasch, USA TODAY 12:11 a.m. EST February 18, 2013

http://www.usatoday.com/news/
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#32911 Aug 17, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Pops, one thing I've changed my mind about is the draft. It was so hated, I was happy to see it go away. But now I realize it was the end of war being a burden shared by all families. Young men from wealthy families seldom volunteer for military service any more. The result is that a President can take us to war, knowing that it won't be their family and friends that will die in the effort. One major difference between Bush I and Bush II is that George H.W. had a personal familiarity with the terrible cost of war.
Good points. Maybe that influenced the overwhelming coalition that he lead in the 1st Gulf war. I enlisted during the draft years. The recruits were categorized; RA enlistees, AR draftees, & NG for National guard. There was a bit of a difference as to how they were treated by drill NCO's. But when specific duty training, the differences of treatments went away.
I question myself about a limited draft draft today. I just can't quite make it thru all of the variables such as a quota number,( not more than 10%?) length of enlistment (18-24 mos?) & drafting criteria. With all of the tech skills needed today, a short commitment would limit that 'specialty' training to parameters like Quartermaster, security guard positions, dietary, infantry, transportation & jobs like that. ALL admirable functions.
The other jobs needing more extensive training requiring a different cost/benefit would have to have longer enlistments.
One of my nephews has learn to speak Korean. After physical training, his specialty required an extra full year. His enlistment is for 6 yrs. They want him to speak like a native Korean & even learn regional variations. Of course he is cleared for top secret & can't talk about his job duties.
He may be channeling his self for a very nice international trade position after his obligation.
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#32912 Aug 17, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
A thought that I have about your helpful chart is that many many more of the lower income group are likely felons for multiple reasons like child support deficits that reach a felonious amount & just about any drug conviction are not eligible for enlistment, that is not likely with the higher income group. And most of the higher group would be the officers which of course serve longer duty times.
All of these things affect the chart. A clear cause & effect issue.
Canton

Canton, OH

#32913 Aug 17, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
3/11/2013 @ 8:00AM 1,123,554 views
1.6 Billion Rounds Of Ammo For Homeland Security? It's Time For A National Conversation
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/2013/0...
Oooooh scary. Still got your guns? The claim was Obama was going to take away all of our guns. I still got mine. You still got yours? Know anyone who had their guns taken away by Obama? Me neither. Therefore, you Tea Baggers were completely wrong once again, are unable to admit you were completely wrong and choose pathetic right wing blogs to fuel your spin instead of facing the absolute FACTS. The Tea Baggers cried and cried that Obama was going to take away all of guns and nothing like that has even come close to happening.
Canton

Canton, OH

#32914 Aug 17, 2014
Gee, Tea Baggers are not only hoarding assault weapons but are also hoarding ammo too? Shocking.

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