Who do you support for Governor in Oh...
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#32312 Aug 1, 2014
Canton wrote:
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People voted for Romney with their Bibles, just like they did with the American disaster GW Bush. Also, you like to call obvious life long right wing Republicans, Liberals, so at least I have a footing in reality. Let's all imagine all those hippies at Bane Capital sitting around the sweat lodge putting flowers in each others hair. As far as Obama and him signing the least amount of executive orders since FDR, wonder why you sudden Constitutionalists were so quiet when Reagan had his little pen a wagging? Wonder why we didn't hear a peep from your camp, the one you are too ashamed to admit to being part of, when you were voting for GW twice, with his oh so very Un-Constitutional Patriot Act? Oh, that's right. They were white. Yawn...Next?
Stick to trying to convince the middle class that Reagan's trickle down was good for them but the $36 a year you pay to cover poor families eating is what is destroying America. You are a racist joke with a mouth. Nothing more.
Who complained about the amount of executive orders anybody signed? Nobody. We complained about DumBama abusing that privilege by the TYPE of orders he signed and threatens to sign again.

You can't listen to them Democrats tell you what Republicans are up to. Democrats are all born liars. Instead, listen to what the Republicans are up to for yourself.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#32313 Aug 1, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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I tried to sign on this morning, temporarily out of service. Okay, they should have it repaired by the time I get home. I just got home, temporarily out of service.
I spent the last half hour trying to get a hold of Topix and the people that manage their web site. No luck.
So I tried another forum, it went right through. Came back to this one, and I had to click it multiple times before it would get past that warning sign and let me through.
Now I don't know if it's this site or my browser. I don't have problems on any other site.
Thanks, Obama.
Big Johnson

Columbus, OH

#32314 Aug 1, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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Thanks, Obama.
Spot on!
d pantz

Taylor, MI

#32315 Aug 1, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>I've got relatives that live there that will tell you different.
Then they would tell you its minutes away from Rosemary projects (King James Court) and Joy park.
d pantz

Taylor, MI

#32316 Aug 1, 2014
Haaaaaaaaaaaaa ha . I told you I DONT CARE WHAT PEOPLE DO AS LONG AS THEY AREN'T FORCING IT DOWN PEOPLE'S THROATS! I know that one's hard for you to grasp.
Canton wrote:
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Since abortion isn't mentioned in the Bible, I guess you are okay with corporations making up their own religions. Piss off. You can pretend to follow along all day but us thinking folks know better. Go polish your guns. You know. The ones Obama took away. I studied the Bible for 12 years and worked for Newt Gingrich for several years. You? You have a mouth.
d pantz

Taylor, MI

#32317 Aug 1, 2014
http://m.youtube.com/watch...
Canton wrote:
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Since abortion isn't mentioned in the Bible, I guess you are okay with corporations making up their own religions. Piss off. You can pretend to follow along all day but us thinking folks know better. Go polish your guns. You know. The ones Obama took away. I studied the Bible for 12 years and worked for Newt Gingrich for several years. You? You have a mouth.
ino

Clyde, OH

#32318 Aug 1, 2014
Is this the story he gave his wife after he was caught? Sure honey, I believe you.. LOL

http://www.chillicothegazette.com/story/news/...
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#32319 Aug 1, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
The three stooges are at it again.
They provide you internet access at IBH?

woof
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#32320 Aug 1, 2014
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
Since abortion isn't mentioned in the Bible, I guess you are okay with corporations making up their own religions. Piss off. You can pretend to follow along all day but us thinking folks know better. Go polish your guns. You know. The ones Obama took away. I studied the Bible for 12 years and worked for Newt Gingrich for several years. You? You have a mouth.
Automobiles, trains, asprin, ice water, computers & sewing machines etc aren't mentioned in the bible either, so what the heck is your sad non-important point?? Troll
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#32321 Aug 1, 2014
Canton wrote:
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People voted for Romney with their Bibles, just like they did with the American disaster GW Bush.
And they voted for Obama with their Koran's ??
Again, what is your pointless point?
Abe

Portsmouth, OH

#32322 Aug 1, 2014
pops fixin take a asswoopin.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#32323 Aug 1, 2014
Pops wrote:
<quoted text> Automobiles, trains, asprin, ice water, computers & sewing machines etc aren't mentioned in the bible either, so what the heck is your sad non-important point?? Troll
I think his point is that since there were no such thing as abortion in biblical times, it's not considered a sin. He fails to realize that murder is a sin and abortions are considered murder by most if not all religious organizations.
d pantz

Taylor, MI

#32325 Aug 2, 2014
Ant wrote:
Silly people
More like pathetic. http://m.youtube.com/watch...
d pantz

Taylor, MI

#32326 Aug 2, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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They provide you internet access at IBH?
woof
Not since father Sam bit the bullet.
Old Guy

Mason, OH

#32328 Aug 2, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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I think his point is that since there were no such thing as abortion in biblical times, it's not considered a sin.
Actually, there were intentional, drug induced abortions in Biblical times.

"The Bible never specifically mentions abortion. This is significant, because herbal abortifacients--most notably pennyroyal and silphium--were in common use at the time that the New Testament was written. Jesus, Paul, and the other major figures of the New Testament were surrounded by cultures that practiced abortion, but no specific condemnation of the practice can be found in the Bible."

http://civilliberty.about.com/od/abortion/f/b...
xxxrayted wrote:
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I think his point is that since there were no such thing as abortion in biblical times, it's not considered a sin. He fails to realize that murder is a sin and abortions are considered murder by most if not all religious organizations.
But there are places in the Bible where a distinction between the death of a fetus and the death of an individual is made quite clear.

Exodus 21:22-23 King James Version (KJV)

22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.

23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...

What this means is that if two men are fighting and accidentally hit a woman, causing her to miscarry, they will be fined. However, if the mother dies, the penalty is death. The lesson from this is that death of a fetus is not murder (which is punishable by death), but more similar to losing property (which is punished by a fine.)
Barnsweb

Canton, OH

#32329 Aug 2, 2014
ino wrote:
Is this the story he gave his wife after he was caught? Sure honey, I believe you.. LOL
http://www.chillicothegazette.com/story/news/...
Sounds more like a red-herring being dragged across the path to get the democratic dogs barking;-) Knowing them as I do, they stoop lower than any human could to derail people from what needs to be addressed.

Democratic ticket?

No way after the the lie we were sold in the last couple of elections. I think only fools would vote democratic. Where are the Libertarians? or anyone who would have the courage to not resign on the emergency powers act that has been in place since 1933 that derailed our Constitutional government and rights.

Is Ohio just full of numbskulls in the cities here? Just sayin'....
Barnsweb

Canton, OH

#32330 Aug 2, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
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Actually, there were intentional, drug induced abortions in Biblical times.
"The Bible never specifically mentions abortion. This is significant, because herbal abortifacients--most notably pennyroyal and silphium--were in common use at the time that the New Testament was written. Jesus, Paul, and the other major figures of the New Testament were surrounded by cultures that practiced abortion, but no specific condemnation of the practice can be found in the Bible."
http://civilliberty.about.com/od/abortion/f/b...
<quoted text>
But there are places in the Bible where a distinction between the death of a fetus and the death of an individual is made quite clear.
Exodus 21:22-23 King James Version (KJV)
22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.
23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...
What this means is that if two men are fighting and accidentally hit a woman, causing her to miscarry, they will be fined. However, if the mother dies, the penalty is death. The lesson from this is that death of a fetus is not murder (which is punishable by death), but more similar to losing property (which is punished by a fine.)
Look up the passages about blood on their skirts - those are about abortion.

God is about life and having children - they are supposed to be a blessing.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#32331 Aug 2, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
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What this means is that if two men are fighting and accidentally hit a woman, causing her to miscarry, they will be fined. However, if the mother dies, the penalty is death. The lesson from this is that death of a fetus is not murder (which is punishable by death), but more similar to losing property (which is punished by a fine.)
It says unintentional death to a fetus, not intentional. As to the earlier version of the Morning After pill, I found this:

At About.com , Tom Head makes the case for ambiguity in What does the Bible say about abortion? What Head adds to the argument is this.

The Bible never specifically mentions abortion. This is significant, because herbal abortifacients–most notably pennyroyal and silphium–were in common use at the time that the New Testament was written. Jesus, Paul, and the other major figures of the New Testament were surrounded by cultures that practiced abortion, but no specific condemnation of the practice can be found in the Bible.

In an era when most women married early and enhanced their status by having a child, why would it have been common to have an abortion? What exactly would have constituted common use of an abortifacient? I doubt Head has the slightest idea. Anyway, he does not say, and the herbs he mentions probably were not used as he suggests.

According to this NIH link pennyroyal is unsafe. That is, it would have been dangerous to use.

Wikipedia (here) and Sylphium Life Sciences (here) say silphium is either extinct or we just don’t know what ancient herbalists called silphium is anymore.

Therefore, how many of the ancients used either pennyroyal or silphium as abortifacients and how effective they may have been is purely speculative.

http://citizentom.com/2012/11/24/what-does-th...
Old Guy

Mason, OH

#32332 Aug 2, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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At About.com , Tom Head makes the case for ambiguity in What does the Bible say about abortion?

In an era when most women married early and enhanced their status by having a child, why would it have been common to have an abortion? What exactly would have constituted common use of an abortifacient? I doubt Head has the slightest idea.
I always like it when someone attacks with questions, rather than statements. It's usually a tell that they are faking it.

This anonymous fellow can't understand how abortifacients could be of interest to women, because babies are always GOOD and enhance a woman's status.

Unless your husband has been away at war for a year.

Or you aren't married at all, and just had some brief fun with the lower caste gardener.

Or you were raped by your brother.

Just 3 ideas for Mr. Questions to consider, in his quest to understand why a woman would ever desire an abortion.
ino

Clyde, OH

#32333 Aug 2, 2014
FREE BC for women now No reason to be prego unless you want to be.

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