DEMSRULE

Ashland, KY

#32191 Jul 28, 2014
Well, there was that one unpleasant day when 3000 citizens were killed in New York City. But that was before anything that happened anywhere on the planet was the president's fault. Before the tea party, back when our presidents were always white guys.
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#32192 Jul 28, 2014
Pops wrote:
<quoted text> I think that Hillary is qualified enough but she may be too polarizing. While gaining her experiences, she also created a lot of baggage.
Pops, that's a perfect description of Richard Nixon. Back in the day, you either loved him or hated him. He got smacked down pretty bad, but he re-emerged as the "new" Nixon and got elected President. Twice.

Nixon did definitely not represent ALL the people. Nixon had friends and enemies. He used government to reward his friends and punish his enemies. He hated "the Jews", didn't trust the blacks and he wasn't crazy about those pacifist hippies, either. He was quite willing to tap your phone, steal your medical records, or employ "dirty tricks" to make your life miserable.

Do you think I'm happy at the prospect of Hillary turning into that kind of President? Guess again. Nixon was scary, we were lucky to escape his corrosive influence.

(But, I must admit, after hearing the right wing "cry wolf" for so long during the milquetoast Obama presidency, it might be fun to see how they would react to a genuine threat.) Here's an article from 1972, that explains how "Tricky Dick" operated, back in the day:

"FBI agents have established that the Watergate bugging incident stemmed from a massive campaign of political spying and sabotage conducted on behalf of President Nixon's re-election and directed by officials of the White House and the Committee for the Re-election of the President.

The activities, according to information in FBI and Department of Justice files, were aimed at all the major Democratic presidential contenders and -- since 1971 -- represented a basic strategy of the Nixon re-election effort.

During their Watergate investigation, federal agents established that hundreds of thousands of dollars in Nixon campaign contributions had been set aside to pay for an extensive undercover campaign aimed at discrediting individual Democratic presidential candidates and disrupting their campaigns.

"Intelligence work" is normal during a campaign and is said to be carried out by both political parties. But federal investigators said what they uncovered being done by the Nixon forces is unprecedented in scope and intensity.

They said it included:

Following members of Democratic candidates' families and assembling dossiers on their personal lives; forging letters and distributing them under the candidates' letterheads; leaking false and manufactured items to the press; throwing campaign schedules into disarray; seizing confidential campaign files; and investigating the lives of dozens of Democratic campaign workers.

In addition, investigators said the activities included planting provocateurs in the ranks of organizations expected to demonstrate at the Republican and Democratic conventions; and investigating potential donors to the Nixon campaign before their contributions were solicited."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national...
d pantz

Toledo, OH

#32193 Jul 29, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>They keep forgetting about all of the attacks during the Bush Administration. No scandals there.
That was a long time ago son.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#32195 Jul 29, 2014
d pantz wrote:
<quoted text> That was a long time ago son.
There was not millions of wasted dollars thrown away on false scandal investigation's like there is now by the 'We have to slash spending party'. Who get's to pay for this upcoming bullcrap lawsuit? The party of nothing unless it's for the rich or the taxpayers? As of June 23 this year Boehner himself has headlined more than 150 fundraisers and to date $88 million for the party. In August he will embark on a 14-state fundraising tour. That doesn't leave much time for him to be doing what he was elected for. That puts him on pace for 300 fundraisers in a year. How many has Obama done? Oh, yeah, most of those include rounds of GOLF. You can't maintain the handicap he has without playing A LOT.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#32196 Jul 29, 2014
d pantz wrote:
<quoted text> That was a long time ago son.
I forgot to add, the body count was a lot higher than 4 brave Americans that have these panties all bunched up in a wad.
ino

Waverly, OH

#32197 Jul 29, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>I forgot to add, the body count was a lot higher than 4 brave Americans that have these panties all bunched up in a wad.
Here goes: the “13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush’s Watch Without a Peep from Fox News”– cases versus reality.
1. HUFFPO: THIS WAS JUST LIKE BENGHAZI.
“January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.”
REALITY: NONE WERE AMERICAN.(The Tribune)
2. HUFFPO: THIS WAS JUST LIKE BENGHAZI.
“June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al Qaeda attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.”
REALITY: NONE WERE AMERICAN.(BBC)
3. HUFFPO: THIS WAS JUST LIKE BENGHAZI.
“October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of ‘Bali Bombings.’ No fatalities.”
REALITY: NONE WERE AMERICAN.
You said it, Huffington Post.
4. HUFFPO: THIS WAS JUST LIKE BENGHAZI.
“February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.”
REALITY: NONE WERE AMERICAN.(Fox News)
5. HUFFPO: THIS WAS JUST LIKE BENGHAZI.
“May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al Qaeda terrorists storm the diplomatic compound, killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.”
REALITY: NINE AMERICAN DEFENSE CONTRACTORS KILLED.
After numerous State Department warnings, and Saudi Arabia investigating al Qaeda for a potential planned attack, three defense compounds were assaulted with car bombs and armed attackers. Nine defense contractors were killed.
Bush immediately called the attack part of the “war on terror,” and two of the attackers that survived the raid were killed by Saudi police forces. You know, just like Benghazi.(CNN)
6. HUFFPO: THIS WAS JUST LIKE BENGHAZI.
“July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.”
REALITY: NONE WERE AMERICAN.(BBC)
7. HUFFPO: THIS WAS JUST LIKE BENGHAZI.
“December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.”
REALITY: NONE WERE AMERICAN.(Guardian)
8. HUFFPO: THIS WAS JUST LIKE BENGHAZI.
“March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers.(I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name ‘David Foy.’ This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what’s considered American soil.)”
REALITY: ONE U.S. DIPLOMAT KILLED.
Finally, something that’s like Benghazi! Except that the Ambassador wasn’t missing, he was killed instantly. There wasn’t an 8-hour-long siege, an AWOL president and Secretary of State, or service personnel hung out to dry with no rescue attempt. It wasn’t a recent warzone, and there weren’t requests for additional security turned down. Oh, and no one falsely blamed a video for causing a non-existent protest. Except for those caveats, just like Benghazi.
ino

Waverly, OH

#32198 Jul 29, 2014
9. HUFFPO: THIS WAS JUST LIKE BENGHAZI.
“September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting ‘Allahu akbar’ storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.”
REALITY: NONE WERE AMERICAN.(CNN)
10. HUFFPO: THIS WAS JUST LIKE BENGHAZI.
“January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.”
REALITY: NONE WERE AMERICAN.
You said it, Huffington Post.
11. HUFFPO: THIS WAS JUST LIKE BENGHAZI.
“March 18, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaeda-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.”
REALITY: NONE WERE AMERICAN.(CNN)
12. HUFFPO: THIS WAS JUST LIKE BENGHAZI.
“July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.”
REALITY: NONE WERE AMERICAN.(Reuters)
13. HUFFPO: THIS WAS JUST LIKE BENGHAZI.
“September 17, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.”
REALITY: NONE WERE AMERICAN.
ino

Waverly, OH

#32199 Jul 29, 2014
REALITY: NONE WERE AMERICAN.
d pantz

Toledo, OH

#32202 Jul 29, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>There was not millions of wasted dollars thrown away on false scandal investigation's like there is now by the 'We have to slash spending party'. Who get's to pay for this upcoming bullcrap lawsuit? The party of nothing unless it's for the rich or the taxpayers? As of June 23 this year Boehner himself has headlined more than 150 fundraisers and to date $88 million for the party. In August he will embark on a 14-state fundraising tour. That doesn't leave much time for him to be doing what he was elected for. That puts him on pace for 300 fundraisers in a year. How many has Obama done? Oh, yeah, most of those include rounds of GOLF. You can't maintain the handicap he has without playing A LOT.
So start a petition to impeach Bush even though he isn't President anymore. Send back in a time machine and I will sign it. Good luck.
d pantz

Toledo, OH

#32203 Jul 29, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>I forgot to add, the body count was a lot higher than 4 brave Americans that have these panties all bunched up in a wad.
liar.
ino

Waverly, OH

#32205 Jul 29, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>I forgot to add, the body count was a lot higher than 4 brave Americans that have these panties all bunched up in a wad.
REALITY: NONE WERE AMERICAN
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#32206 Jul 29, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>There was not millions of wasted dollars thrown away on false scandal investigation's like there is now by the 'We have to slash spending party'. Who get's to pay for this upcoming bullcrap lawsuit?
Probably the same people that are going to pay for all these foreign kids that washed up on our border. ODummy asked Congress for 4 billion dollars for that little stunt.
They cannot kill a Spook

Toledo, OH

#32208 Jul 29, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Probably the same people that are going to pay for all these foreign kids that washed up on our border. ODummy asked Congress for 4 billion dollars for that little stunt.
I say take them to the border , line them up and execute them. An invader is an invader no matter the age.
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#32209 Jul 29, 2014
ino wrote:
REALITY: NONE WERE AMERICAN.
Well, I was comparing Benghazi to Beirut...

"...a suicide bomber drove a truck laden with the equivalent of twenty-one thousand pounds of TNT into the heart of a U.S. Marine compound, killing two hundred and forty-one servicemen."

"Six months earlier, militants had bombed the U.S. embassy in Beirut, too, killing sixty-three more people, including seventeen Americans."

"In March of 1984, three months after Congress issued its report, militants struck American officials in Beirut again, this time kidnapping the C.I.A.’s station chief, Bill Buckley. Buckley was tortured and, eventually, murdered. Reagan, who was tormented by a tape of Buckley being tortured, blamed himself."

"There were more than enough opportunities to lay blame for the horrific losses at high U.S. officials’ feet. But unlike today’s Congress, congressmen did not talk of impeaching Ronald Reagan, who was then President, nor were any subpoenas sent to cabinet members."

http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/r...
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#32210 Jul 29, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>There was not millions of wasted dollars thrown away on false scandal investigation's like there is now by the 'We have to slash spending party'. Who get's to pay for this upcoming bullcrap lawsuit? The party of nothing unless it's for the rich or the taxpayers? As of June 23 this year Boehner himself has headlined more than 150 fundraisers and to date $88 million for the party. In August he will embark on a 14-state fundraising tour. That doesn't leave much time for him to be doing what he was elected for. That puts him on pace for 300 fundraisers in a year. How many has Obama done? Oh, yeah, most of those include rounds of GOLF. You can't maintain the handicap he has without playing A LOT.
Are you serious?
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#32211 Jul 29, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Pops, that's a perfect description of Richard Nixon. Back in the day, you either loved him or hated him. He got smacked down pretty bad, but he re-emerged as the "new" Nixon and got elected President. Twice.
Nixon did definitely not represent ALL the people. Nixon had friends and enemies. He used government to reward his friends and punish his enemies. He hated "the Jews", didn't trust the blacks and he wasn't crazy about those pacifist hippies, either. He was quite willing to tap your phone, steal your medical records, or employ "dirty tricks" to make your life miserable.
Nixon was generally considered some sort of psychotic. Of course he was never formally evaluated, at least not openly known anyway.
That guy had shadows lurking in his head.
At least he brought a ton of experience to the job. That is likely what made him effective.
And least his own party members had the ethics to confront him & inform him that he would likely not survive an Impeachment because some of them would vote against his cause & methods. The current party of this president help him circle the wagons, hide stuff under the rugs & behave like the famous 3 monkeys. Or like Sgt Schultz...they know nothing, admit nothing, see nothing, hear nothing. NO ethics. Wow! if any of them would talk, especially the Clinton's.
What did/do you think about Nixon's wage & price freeze?
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#32212 Jul 29, 2014
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Are you serious?
Are you senile?
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#32213 Jul 29, 2014
They cannot kill a Spook wrote:
<quoted text>
I say take them to the border , line them up and execute them. An invader is an invader no matter the age.
And kids will be kids and do what their parents tell them to do.

I don't blame the parents or the kids, I blame our government for putting out the invitation.

The silver lining is it woke up Americans all around the country. Before, illegals were down on the list of American concerns. Today it's at the top. Another unexpected backfire of DumBama's.
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#32214 Jul 29, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>There was not millions of wasted dollars thrown away on false scandal investigation's like there is now by the 'We have to slash spending party'. Who get's to pay for this upcoming bullcrap lawsuit? The party of nothing unless it's for the rich or the taxpayers? As of June 23 this year Boehner himself has headlined more than 150 fundraisers and to date $88 million for the party. In August he will embark on a 14-state fundraising tour. That doesn't leave much time for him to be doing what he was elected for. That puts him on pace for 300 fundraisers in a year. How many has Obama done? Oh, yeah, most of those include rounds of GOLF. You can't maintain the handicap he has without playing A LOT.
Next month ALL of the house is on a 'vacation'. They can do whatever they want including having a backyard BBQ.
But they do NOT get to buzz around the country or world on Air Force ONE while soliciting funds for MILLIONS & MILLIONS & MILLIONS of dollars. With a security force, You guessed it, costing Millions & Millions & Millions of dollars more & NOT even visit the Southern Border to see what is actually going on. THEN Obama actually is allowed to waive this nations LAWS about border protections, immigration .statutes, desease control, USDA laws about foreign plants & animals or the FDA, CDC protections against communicabale deseases & invasive plants & animals.Then there's the protection against drugs & criminals!!
Don,t bother picking on my spelling or typo's, the point has been made. YOU are a Jack Wagon..
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#32215 Jul 29, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>There was not millions of wasted dollars thrown away on false scandal investigation's like there is now by the 'We have to slash spending party'. Who get's to pay for this upcoming bullcrap lawsuit? The party of nothing unless it's for the rich or the taxpayers? As of June 23 this year Boehner himself has headlined more than 150 fundraisers and to date $88 million for the party. In August he will embark on a 14-state fundraising tour. That doesn't leave much time for him to be doing what he was elected for. That puts him on pace for 300 fundraisers in a year. How many has Obama done? Oh, yeah, most of those include rounds of GOLF. You can't maintain the handicap he has without playing A LOT.
Where in the bleep do you get your numbers? You are A Jack Wagon uo to this point!

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