Who do you support for Governor in Oh...
Old Guy

Mason, OH

#31526 Jul 15, 2014
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Liberals today and ever since FDR are the Liars claiming to be something they are not for which is Individualism which is what true Liberalism advocates.
Both you and xRay like to tell us about what liberals are, though you've never been one. Why not talk about what you are, instead of what you aren't?

It's much harder to say what you are for, rather than what you hate. It's always easy to hate "the other." Rush has demonized "the liberals" and all of you obediently follow his lead.

Tell us what you believe, instead of what you hate.

Especially, tell us how your views differ from the right wing radio line. Some of the folks here may suspect that that you and others here just parrot whatever that man on the radio said. But by revealing your original ideas, we may come to understand your point of view.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#31527 Jul 15, 2014
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's all read Reality Speak's words here and then stop and wonder if a person like him could hate a president solely based on the color of his skin. Although his quote here dips into his creepy Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs shtick, there's something more to his "affirmative action" comment that is VERY revealing. Let's see. Reality Speaks called the president of the United States of America "Obammy".
So what does Obammy mean? Let's dig inside the mind of a non-racist and see what you come up with.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#31528 Jul 15, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Both you and xRay like to tell us about what liberals are, though you've never been one. Why not talk about what you are, instead of what you aren't?
It's much harder to say what you are for, rather than what you hate. It's always easy to hate "the other." Rush has demonized "the liberals" and all of you obediently follow his lead.
Tell us what you believe, instead of what you hate.
Especially, tell us how your views differ from the right wing radio line. Some of the folks here may suspect that that you and others here just parrot whatever that man on the radio said. But by revealing your original ideas, we may come to understand your point of view.
Why not extend that offer to people on your side as well? What are they for?

I already posted that in my younger days, I was liberal. After I got out into the working world and had to pay taxes--took note on what my taxes were spent on, and the failure of programs and bureaucracies, I became conservative.

On the other hand, when were you ever a conservative? And how is the "man on the radio" any different than what liberals train people like Canton to believe? Have you ever seen the word "racist" used so often by those not brainwashed to say it? Or perhaps the evil Boogie men like the Koch brothers? You can't make this stuff up. It's a programming by others.

The conservative belief is the less government in our lives the better. It seems that when we have more government, we have more problems. Or as RR once said "Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem." I firmly believe that.

Conservatives believe that the way to better society is to bring those at the bottom--up, not bring those at the top--down. We believe that targeting and attacking businesses is not the way to crate jobs. Catering to our job creators is the way to create jobs.

We believe in helping those who truly need help, not those that don't want to help themselves. We believe that personal responsibility starts at home, not with society. Conservatives believe that the way to get ahead is to leave others behind. After all, if everybody moves ahead the same distance at the same time, nobody gets ahead.
Pope Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#31529 Jul 15, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Why not extend that offer to people on your side as well? What are they for?
I already posted that in my younger days, I was liberal. After I got out into the working world and had to pay taxes--took note on what my taxes were spent on, and the failure of programs and bureaucracies, I became conservative.
On the other hand, when were you ever a conservative? And how is the "man on the radio" any different than what liberals train people like Canton to believe? Have you ever seen the word "racist" used so often by those not brainwashed to say it? Or perhaps the evil Boogie men like the Koch brothers? You can't make this stuff up. It's a programming by others.
The conservative belief is the less government in our lives the better. It seems that when we have more government, we have more problems. Or as RR once said "Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem." I firmly believe that.
Conservatives believe that the way to better society is to bring those at the bottom--up, not bring those at the top--down. We believe that targeting and attacking businesses is not the way to crate jobs. Catering to our job creators is the way to create jobs.
We believe in helping those who truly need help, not those that don't want to help themselves. We believe that personal responsibility starts at home, not with society. Conservatives believe that the way to get ahead is to leave others behind. After all, if everybody moves ahead the same distance at the same time, nobody gets ahead.
Wow. Rather than talk about that, live it.
Canton

Canton, OH

#31530 Jul 15, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
as if anyone cares what a flunky like you thinks.
go plug in my golf cart and shine my shoes before you are homeless again.
No thanks, Sissy. I have already earned my way in life. Now go tell your wife/mom to wash my socks and for once in your life, quit being such a leeching free loader on your parent's bank account. Us REAL men EARNED what we have in life, little country club gimme gimme.

Oh and about your cockmouthed statement about Oklahoma. You know, the one where you get down on your knees and gobble that fat Koch for the energy lobby? Spin this one, Buffalo Bill. Then you can get back to doing your tucky dance in front of the mirror while us men have a conversation here.

From 1978 to 2008, Oklahoma averaged two magnitude 3.0 earthquakes a year. In 2014, they have had 207 earthquakes of that magnitude. Seven of them happen This past weekend. Now say it with me, you stammering scarecrow clown of a buffoon. Before Fracking. After Fracking. Before Fracking After Fracking.

Get it right, traitor to America and the human race.
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#31531 Jul 15, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Why not extend that offer to people on your side as well? What are they for?
I already posted that in my younger days, I was liberal. After I got out into the working world and had to pay taxes--took note on what my taxes were spent on, and the failure of programs and bureaucracies, I became conservative.
On the other hand, when were you ever a conservative? And how is the "man on the radio" any different than what liberals train people like Canton to believe? Have you ever seen the word "racist" used so often by those not brainwashed to say it?
The conservative belief is the less government in our lives the better. It seems that when we have more government, we have more problems. Or as RR once said "Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem." I firmly believe that.
Conservatives believe that the way to better society is to bring those at the bottom--up, not bring those at the top--down. We believe that targeting and attacking businesses is not the way to crate jobs. Catering to our job creators is the way to create jobs.
We believe in helping those who truly need help, not those that don't want to help themselves. We believe that personal responsibility starts at home, not with society. Conservatives believe that the way to get ahead is to leave others behind. After all, if everybody moves ahead the same distance at the same time, nobody gets ahead.
Interesting Ray, quite interesting.
1st, It seems to me that OG is as pragmatic as anyone on here & not a Lib or quite a conservative as you may see it.
I don't think that you literally mean some of the things that you have said, but maybe you did. WE need government, just not the one that we have.
If I were to label myself in one word, that would be as a Constitutionalist & I am not quite comfortable with that one word label. And according to the Constitution as I see it, our Federal gov has gotten way out of bounds many times.
We do need to protect job creators as you state if for no other reasons than that ANY expense that they have is passed on to the end consumer of whatever their business offers & then there's the inevitable jobs going out of country.
Libs & most unions just don't seem to see that. It's Economics 101 so I do not understand the multitudes that do not comprehend that. It is basic business operations.
Canton

Canton, OH

#31532 Jul 15, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
So what does Obammy mean? Let's dig inside the mind of a non-racist and see what you come up with.
Perhaps you should ask the proven racist creator of the term "Obammy" how it's NOT racist. I'm sure it has something to do with his healthcare plan. Now why don't you go ahead and explain to the good people what you meant when you called the Harvard educated president of the most powerful nation on the planet a "wild man mulatto". Explain to us non-racists EXACTLY what that comment means, when you claim it's his policies you hate so much. Walked right into that one, huh Rubber Ducky? You Tea Baggers never really were the sharpest knives in the drawer. Anyway...let's hear it.
They cannot kill a Spook

Toledo, OH

#31533 Jul 15, 2014
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>No thanks, Sissy. I have already earned my way in life. Now go tell your wife/mom to wash my socks and for once in your life, quit being such a leeching free loader on your parent's bank account. Us REAL men EARNED what we have in life, little country club gimme gimme.
Oh and about your cockmouthed statement about Oklahoma. You know, the one where you get down on your knees and gobble that fat Koch for the energy lobby? Spin this one, Buffalo Bill. Then you can get back to doing your tucky dance in front of the mirror while us men have a conversation here.
From 1978 to 2008, Oklahoma averaged two magnitude 3.0 earthquakes a year. In 2014, they have had 207 earthquakes of that magnitude. Seven of them happen This past weekend. Now say it with me, you stammering scarecrow clown of a buffoon. Before Fracking. After Fracking. Before Fracking After Fracking.
Get it right, traitor to America and the human race.
There was fracking prior to and continuing through today. So why with fracking occurring in the time frame you chose was the average so low?
And what about the earthquakes in Chile and Japan including off their.coasts.
talkabout

Lewis Center, OH

#31534 Jul 15, 2014
not yet wrote:
this country hasnt had enough time off to have republicans back in power.
Yea, we need more screwed up . it's almost to the point now it wont matter who gets in dem. or rep. after this last eight years does anyone think anyone could fix everything Obama has screwed up. would take an exceptional person!
Pope Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#31535 Jul 15, 2014
Pops wrote:
<quoted text> Here you go again. When you have NO argument for the message, you drag out the 'R' word. What a limited intellect.
Pops, after the whole Pelosi thing, you can't question anyone's intellect.
Canton

Canton, OH

#31536 Jul 15, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Why not extend that offer to people on your side as well? What are they for?
I already posted that in my younger days, I was liberal. After I got out into the working world and had to pay taxes--took note on what my taxes were spent on, and the failure of programs and bureaucracies, I became conservative.
On the other hand, when were you ever a conservative? And how is the "man on the radio" any different than what liberals train people like Canton to believe? Have you ever seen the word "racist" used so often by those not brainwashed to say it? Or perhaps the evil Boogie men like the Koch brothers? You can't make this stuff up. It's a programming by others.
The conservative belief is the less government in our lives the better. It seems that when we have more government, we have more problems. Or as RR once said "Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem." I firmly believe that.
Conservatives believe that the way to better society is to bring those at the bottom--up, not bring those at the top--down. We believe that targeting and attacking businesses is not the way to crate jobs. Catering to our job creators is the way to create jobs.
We believe in helping those who truly need help, not those that don't want to help themselves. We believe that personal responsibility starts at home, not with society. Conservatives believe that the way to get ahead is to leave others behind. After all, if everybody moves ahead the same distance at the same time, nobody gets ahead.
I get my information from science sites and fact checked articles. You quote Rush Limbaugh. You want to tell me that I'm brainwashed by some Liberal agenda? I worked directly for the Conservative Republicans for years. I saw what a conniving and twisted bunch of Bible thumping kiddie gropers they really were. That's about as political as I really am. I don't care about abortion either way. I own guns but am smart enough to realize a citizen doesn't need a 50 cal sniper rifle for home defense. I am much more anti-corporate than I am pro union and I have been alive long enough to know for a fact that most old white men are racist. So my question to you is...who the [email protected] do you think you're fooling here? You match every single stereotype people have about you Tea Baggers, and I am nothing like the commie, Liberal day dream Fox News injected into your sheepish mind. Wonder why that is?

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31537 Jul 15, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>You, xxx and reality yank it off a lot, don't you?
You so called Liberals yank it off a lot just by calling yourself Liberals which is a known fact.
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#31538 Jul 15, 2014
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps you should ask the proven racist creator of the term "Obammy" how it's NOT racist. I'm sure it has something to do with his healthcare plan. Now why don't you go ahead and explain to the good people what you meant when you called the Harvard educated president of the most powerful nation on the planet a "wild man mulatto". Explain to us non-racists EXACTLY what that comment means, when you claim it's his policies you hate so much. Walked right into that one, huh Rubber Ducky? You Tea Baggers never really were the sharpest knives in the drawer. Anyway...let's hear it.
YOU are as non-racist as an old Al Jolson skit.
OBAMA is 1/2 WHITE ! Jacka$$. The fact that HE ran for pres as a Black Man & NOT ever as Biracial, or African-American, or the White 1/2 or as an 'American' did make his dumba$$ a target above & beyond the true existing racist. HE & His 'handlers' created that scenerio. Obama is the racist or he would not have campaigned only as a Black Man.
He virtually disavowed his white grandmother that raised him. He denied knowing that Wright was a racist anti-American even though he attended Wright's services for decades.
Drink the mindless kool-ade & be proud of it. You FOOL!!
Canton

Canton, OH

#31539 Jul 15, 2014
They cannot kill a Spook wrote:
<quoted text>
There was fracking prior to and continuing through today. So why with fracking occurring in the time frame you chose was the average so low?
And what about the earthquakes in Chile and Japan including off their.coasts.
The earthquakes in Chile and Japan actually caused numerous earthquakes in fracking sites across the nation. Nice try but why don't you spend a little more time asking yourself why you are so willing to jump through hoops for the energy industry without a solid reason as to why. I know why I care about the environment. I am a human living on this planet. Now why don't one of you Tea Bagging ninnies tell us why you fight so very, very hard for the energy lobby. It couldn't be those millions of dollars the oil industry spent in anti-climate change and pro-fracking propaganda, could it? I mean, could you imagine how stupid a middle class working American would have to be to gulp down huge amounts of bogus corporate sponsored propaganda instead of going with the overwhelming majority of the scientific community?
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#31540 Jul 15, 2014
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
I get my information from science sites and fact checked articles. You quote Rush Limbaugh. You want to tell me that I'm brainwashed by some Liberal agenda?
YOU get your info from the Kool-ade drinking voices in your head.
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#31541 Jul 15, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>Pops, after the whole Pelosi thing, you can't question anyone's intellect.
Weak, very weak. Your intellect is beyond question since your so called intellect is moot.
You need to go back to blank paper & crayons. More your speed.
talkabout

Lewis Center, OH

#31542 Jul 15, 2014
Yea, but he lost, and state income tax has dropped 8% :-)

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31543 Jul 15, 2014
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh no. I said exactly what I meant, but I'll let you know if I need a flake playing both sides of the fence to provide cutesie games with my words in the future. Besides, who cares what some Tea Bagging flunky from a kiddie groping fascist oil cult for Jesus has to say about us REAL Americans. Get it right, mouth boy.
Problem is the ones that call themselves Liberals or Liberal Democrats today are not Real Americans and if you were around the time this country was founded by the Founding Fathers advocating for the social and economical policies that these Liberals or Liberal Democrats stand & advocate for today in the name of Liberalism, these Liberals or Liberal Democrats of today would be all executed for treason for violating the US Constitution besides everything Liberals or Liberal Democrats stand for today goes against everything the Founding Fathers stood for & believed in which was true Liberalism something that Liberals or Liberal Democrats of today definitely have no use for since true Liberalism advocates individualism.
talkabout

Lewis Center, OH

#31544 Jul 15, 2014
Mother always said, don't hold anything against democrats, they don't know any better :-)

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#31545 Jul 15, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Both you and xRay like to tell us about what liberals are, though you've never been one. Why not talk about what you are, instead of what you aren't?
It's much harder to say what you are for, rather than what you hate. It's always easy to hate "the other." Rush has demonized "the liberals" and all of you obediently follow his lead.
Tell us what you believe, instead of what you hate.
Especially, tell us how your views differ from the right wing radio line. Some of the folks here may suspect that that you and others here just parrot whatever that man on the radio said. But by revealing your original ideas, we may come to understand your point of view.
If you know what Individualism is then you will know what a Classical or True Liberal is which is something the Liberals as they call themselve today here in the US have no use for.

Classical liberalism

Classical liberalism is a political philosophy and ideology belonging to liberalism in which primary emphasis is placed on securing the freedom of the individual by limiting the power of the government. The philosophy emerged as a response to the Industrial Revolution and urbanization in the 19th century in Europe and the United States. It advocates civil liberties with a limited government under the rule of law, private property rights, and belief in laissez-faire economic liberalism. Classical liberalism is built on ideas that had already arisen by the end of the 18th century, including ideas of Adam Smith, John Locke, Jean-Baptiste Say, Thomas Malthus, and David Ricardo. It drew on a psychological understanding of individual liberty, natural law, utilitarianism, and a belief in progress.

In the early 20th century, liberals split on several issues, and in the United States in particular, a distinction grew up between classical liberals and social liberals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_libera...

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