xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#27765 Apr 14, 2014
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
The brand I mentioned is made in the USA and they are very picky about the quality of the juice they use. My buddy did his home work. As far as it feeling like you are hitting something, I bumped the one my friend uses and was surprised how much it hit like the real deal. Although I am sure there needs to be more studied, the article I read has doctors claiming it is much safer than smoking and at $6 a pack for regular cigarettes, it ends up being a lot cheaper. My friend's wife used Chantix and quit for a year so there's something to consider also.
Damn, we should have started talking about smoking months ago. This is the most civil conversation I have seen on this thread.
LOL, yes it is. But when we get back to politics and issues, there's no reason we can't maintain this civility. People here have ragged on me because I can't quit smoking, yet they can't control themselves from busting balls, name calling, and making unfounded accusations when they get on this thing.

I guess we all have our vices.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Cuyahoga Falls, OH

#27766 Apr 14, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
I used to smoke a pipe too when I was much younger, except we didn't use pipe tobacco ;-D
It's very hard for people that never smoked for any length of time to understand what we go through. I can understand that though. I mean, you're inhaling smoke, just stop doing it!
Several years ago when I went to a family party at my sisters house, she complimented me on some weight that I lost at the time. She was very intrigued as to how I did it because she has struggled with a weight problem most of her life, and she's a licensed dietary technician.
When she asked what my secret was, I told her I quit eating. She started to laugh and said "no ship" but then realized I was serious. She questioned me further on how I dealt with that empty stomach feeling, the pains, the desires when I get near food or even see it on the television?
I told her when I felt like that, I knew I was losing weight. Besides I told her, I smoke cigarettes, and those hunger pains and feelings are nothing compared to not having a cigarette for a long period of time. Hunger pains are nothing.
At that point, she stopped, her eyes looked straight ahead and she went into deep thought.
My sister was so anti-smoke that it was silly. My mother and I both smoke and it drove her nuts. She used to cough when one of us pulled out a cigarette and didn't even light it yet.
My sister never understood what smokers went through until she had something to compare it to like dieting, the hunger, the sleepless nights. When I made that comment, it finally hit her. Up to that time, she assumed there was nothing more torturous than going without food.
After that party, she never preached about smoking to me, my mother or her children again. She still doesn't like cigarette smoke, but at least she understands what we go through.
Waaaaaaaaaah. Woe is me.
yeezus

Vandergrift, PA

#27767 Apr 14, 2014
not yet wrote:
this country hasnt had enough time off to have republicans back in power.
gets drugs outta jacksom
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#27768 Apr 14, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
I used to smoke a pipe too when I was much younger, except we didn't use pipe tobacco.
Understood.

:-)
Wise Old Owl

Cincinnati, OH

#27769 Apr 14, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
You are batty.
woof
See if you can read and understand this:

&fe ature=em-share_video_user
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#27770 Apr 14, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
I used to smoke a pipe too when I was much younger, except we didn't use pipe tobacco ;-D
It's very hard for people that never smoked for any length of time to understand what we go through. I can understand that though. I mean, you're inhaling smoke, just stop doing it!
Several years ago when I went to a family party at my sisters house, she complimented me on some weight that I lost at the time. She was very intrigued as to how I did it because she has struggled with a weight problem most of her life, and she's a licensed dietary technician.
When she asked what my secret was, I told her I quit eating. She started to laugh and said "no ship" but then realized I was serious. She questioned me further on how I dealt with that empty stomach feeling, the pains, the desires when I get near food or even see it on the television?
I told her when I felt like that, I knew I was losing weight. Besides I told her, I smoke cigarettes, and those hunger pains and feelings are nothing compared to not having a cigarette for a long period of time. Hunger pains are nothing.
At that point, she stopped, her eyes looked straight ahead and she went into deep thought.
My sister was so anti-smoke that it was silly. My mother and I both smoke and it drove her nuts. She used to cough when one of us pulled out a cigarette and didn't even light it yet.
My sister never understood what smokers went through until she had something to compare it to like dieting, the hunger, the sleepless nights. When I made that comment, it finally hit her. Up to that time, she assumed there was nothing more torturous than going without food.
After that party, she never preached about smoking to me, my mother or her children again. She still doesn't like cigarette smoke, but at least she understands what we go through.
Now wait a minute, you've always been a diabetic along with all other sorts of problems. No diet and health plan to keep those conditions under control? Really now? Sounds like another WOE is me story.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#27771 Apr 14, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>Now wait a minute, you've always been a diabetic along with all other sorts of problems. No diet and health plan to keep those conditions under control? Really now? Sounds like another WOE is me story.
Sorry Dr. Boy Toy, but if I ever need more advanced advice than the Endocrinology department at the Cleveland Clinic an give me, I'll be sure to ask you.

I haven't been diabetic all my life. I became diabetic at the age of 25.

“Meh.”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#27772 Apr 15, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL, yes it is. But when we get back to politics and issues, there's no reason we can't maintain this civility. People here have ragged on me because I can't quit smoking, yet they can't control themselves from busting balls, name calling, and making unfounded accusations when they get on this thing.
I guess we all have our vices.
It's really a personal responsibility issue. You're mewling that you don't want healthcare covering other people, but that it most decidedly should be extended to you at a price you deem suitable to cover the health concerns that have arisen out of your own bad habits.

It's that when you express a standard you expect others to hold themselves to, they'll think you a hypocrite when you explain why the same standards shouldn't be applied to yourself.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#27773 Apr 15, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry Dr. Boy Toy, but if I ever need more advanced advice than the Endocrinology department at the Cleveland Clinic an give me, I'll be sure to ask you.
I haven't been diabetic all my life. I became diabetic at the age of 25.
That would mean you grew up being way overweight until what, 25. Most people's standards of saying 'several years ago' doesn't go back 29 years with yet another one of your made up sob stories. You sound like an only child who wouldn't get up off of the couch and didn't have any friends that would play with you, and you've held that resentment every since. Bring on your newest WOE is me story, we all know you will.
Canton

Canton, OH

#27774 Apr 15, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL, yes it is. But when we get back to politics and issues, there's no reason we can't maintain this civility. People here have ragged on me because I can't quit smoking, yet they can't control themselves from busting balls, name calling, and making unfounded accusations when they get on this thing.
I guess we all have our vices.
We all basically become a persona on here that is far more polarized than what we live in the real world. I have yanked your chain about smoking on here but also have tried to offer you some advice on the matter. I do that because my "friend" who quit smoking for 6 months is actually my wife and I. I myself have smoked since I was 12. Between the two of us, we were smoking about 3 packs a day. About a pack and a half each. We tried the e-smokes but ended up going back to what we call "reallies" anytime the sh1t hit the fan, like a death in the family. After trying 3 different e-smokes, we finally researched it and found Halo brand. I haven't had a real cigarette since I started using them and have no craving at all. Please, do yourself a favor and check them out. They hit hard and they satisfy my addiction to nicotine. None of the other brands we tried worked like they do and the stuff is made in the USA. We were spending close to $18 a day between the two of us on cigarettes and now spend about $20 every week and a half. Please, if you want to know any more about them, let me know. We even tried a bunch of the juices and I can tell you which ones we liked. Mind you, I am fully aware that my nuts will get smashed on here for being a "hypocrite", but I am cool with that if it helps you out. I have twice the energy and feel notably better since I started using the e-smokes and I am the type of person that if it didn't cut it, I'd go buy a pack of cigarettes right now. 6 months in and not 1 cigarette. My friends even smoke around me and it doesn't phase me.

Let the hate begin. Being hated for helping a brother out is cool with me.
Canton

Canton, OH

#27775 Apr 15, 2014
This guys gives a good review on the Halo Triton e-smoke starter kit, which is what I use...

momma

Verona, PA

#27776 Apr 15, 2014
triedntrue wrote:
I think that Ted Strickland brings an old school democratic value system to Ohio.
going great way to go
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#27777 Apr 15, 2014
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
We all basically become a persona on here that is far more polarized than what we live in the real world. I have yanked your chain about smoking on here but also have tried to offer you some advice on the matter. I do that because my "friend" who quit smoking for 6 months is actually my wife and I. I myself have smoked since I was 12. Between the two of us, we were smoking about 3 packs a day. About a pack and a half each. We tried the e-smokes but ended up going back to what we call "reallies" anytime the sh1t hit the fan, like a death in the family. After trying 3 different e-smokes, we finally researched it and found Halo brand. I haven't had a real cigarette since I started using them and have no craving at all. Please, do yourself a favor and check them out. They hit hard and they satisfy my addiction to nicotine. None of the other brands we tried worked like they do and the stuff is made in the USA. We were spending close to $18 a day between the two of us on cigarettes and now spend about $20 every week and a half. Please, if you want to know any more about them, let me know. We even tried a bunch of the juices and I can tell you which ones we liked. Mind you, I am fully aware that my nuts will get smashed on here for being a "hypocrite", but I am cool with that if it helps you out. I have twice the energy and feel notably better since I started using the e-smokes and I am the type of person that if it didn't cut it, I'd go buy a pack of cigarettes right now. 6 months in and not 1 cigarette. My friends even smoke around me and it doesn't phase me.
Let the hate begin. Being hated for helping a brother out is cool with me.
What's next? Did you vote for McCain/ Romney too? ;-D
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#27778 Apr 15, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>That would mean you grew up being way overweight until what, 25. Most people's standards of saying 'several years ago' doesn't go back 29 years with yet another one of your made up sob stories. You sound like an only child who wouldn't get up off of the couch and didn't have any friends that would play with you, and you've held that resentment every since. Bring on your newest WOE is me story, we all know you will.
Ah yes, typical liberal that thinks he knows everything and knows nothing.

Actually I discovered my disease when I was taking amino acids because I was working out with weights heavily. I was on a high protein diet and was in the best shape in my life. Then I began to lose a lot of weight which I attributed to all the exercises I was doing. But my frequent bathroom trips were very unusual, so the nurse at work recommended I take a glucose meter home with me and test myself a few times.

For whatever reason, the amino acids really shot my sugar up. If not for them, I might have not discovered my problem for months or years later.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#27779 Apr 15, 2014
Wise Old Owl wrote:
<quoted text>
See if you can read and understand this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =M9roYXNq_XEXX&feature=em- share_video_user
I understand, you are really really batty.

woof
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#27780 Apr 15, 2014
tranpsosition wrote:
<quoted text>
It's really a personal responsibility issue. You're mewling that you don't want healthcare covering other people, but that it most decidedly should be extended to you at a price you deem suitable to cover the health concerns that have arisen out of your own bad habits.
It's that when you express a standard you expect others to hold themselves to, they'll think you a hypocrite when you explain why the same standards shouldn't be applied to yourself.
I've never had anything against people getting healthcare coverage, just don't take it from me.

You see, government doesn't have any money. They don't produce a product or sellable service. Therefore, if government gives you a loaf of bread, they have to take that bread away from somebody else, somebody else that earned that bread.

Socialism is about taking from producers and giving to the non-producers. So when the producers are robbed of what is rightly theirs, don't say "it's your responsibility" to pony up even more.

“Meh.”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#27781 Apr 15, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
I've never had anything against people getting healthcare coverage, just don't take it from me.
You see, government doesn't have any money. They don't produce a product or sellable service. Therefore, if government gives you a loaf of bread, they have to take that bread away from somebody else, somebody else that earned that bread.
Socialism is about taking from producers and giving to the non-producers. So when the producers are robbed of what is rightly theirs, don't say "it's your responsibility" to pony up even more.
You're aware that under systems like the NHS, paying for everyone has resulted in dramatically lower costs per capita and as a percentage of the GDP as well as lower costs per head for consumers of healthcare services?

That is to say, you're paying more to be sure that other people aren't being treated. And rather insistent that this continue, which would strike me as strange, had you not already presented yourself as someone for whom critical thinking and statistics would prove unnavigable.

But carry on with your strangely hypocritical complaints that your healthcare isn't set at the price point you would prefer, while staying equally shrill that you don't want a penny going to others.
Canton

Canton, OH

#27782 Apr 15, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
What's next? Did you vote for McCain/ Romney too? ;-D
Ha haaaaa! OK, I had that one coming. Hey, no sh1t on that e-smoke thing. I can't say enough good things about it. I knew the first day it arrived that I was done smoking. It totally and successfully replaced cigarettes for me and I have smoked for a very long time. The first few brands my wife and I tried were inconsistent and difficult to tell when they were going to run out. With the tank system, you can see how much juice is in them and the things are super easy to fill. They easily pay for themselves in the first month. The two juices I like are Prime and Tribeca. They offer two battery sizes with the starter kit for the same price. Get the bigger battery. I rotate mine out every day and have never had a battery die on me. I would start with the 18 ml of nicotine to start out. I can tell you almost 100% that you will be pleasantly surprised if you invest in what I have described. It isn't just a quit smoking gimmick to my wife and I. We actually enjoy it. The main reason I keep nagging you about them is the unbelievable difference it has made in my health. I have been very specific on the brand because it will save you a lot of trial and error. Try it and if it doesn't work for you, we can blame Joe Biden and Sarah Palin for it.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#27783 Apr 15, 2014
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
Ha haaaaa! OK, I had that one coming. Hey, no sh1t on that e-smoke thing. I can't say enough good things about it. I knew the first day it arrived that I was done smoking. It totally and successfully replaced cigarettes for me and I have smoked for a very long time. The first few brands my wife and I tried were inconsistent and difficult to tell when they were going to run out. With the tank system, you can see how much juice is in them and the things are super easy to fill. They easily pay for themselves in the first month. The two juices I like are Prime and Tribeca. They offer two battery sizes with the starter kit for the same price. Get the bigger battery. I rotate mine out every day and have never had a battery die on me. I would start with the 18 ml of nicotine to start out. I can tell you almost 100% that you will be pleasantly surprised if you invest in what I have described. It isn't just a quit smoking gimmick to my wife and I. We actually enjoy it. The main reason I keep nagging you about them is the unbelievable difference it has made in my health. I have been very specific on the brand because it will save you a lot of trial and error. Try it and if it doesn't work for you, we can blame Joe Biden and Sarah Palin for it.
I thought you seemed a little too enthused for just knowing somebody that had one. The truth is I thought you might have had investments in the company. LOL! I believe there is a little capitalist in all of us.

I will give it a try.

Nothing wrong or funny about honesty either. I guess that's why I'm the only truck driver/ landlord on Topix. To be honest, I think half of the critics here are or were smokers at one time. If not that, perhaps some other vice they are too proud to admit to. I've known very few people in my life that didn't have some kind of habit or hangup in their lives.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#27784 Apr 17, 2014
Cooking the books:

Census Survey Revisions Mask Health Law Effects
By ROBERT PEARAPRIL 15, 2014

WASHINGTON — The Census Bureau, the authoritative source of health insurance data for more than three decades, is changing its annual survey so thoroughly that it will be difficult to measure the effects of President Obama’s health care law in the next report, due this fall, census officials said.

The changes are intended to improve the accuracy of the survey, being conducted this month in interviews with tens of thousands of households around the country. But the new questions are so different that the findings will not be comparable, the officials said.

An internal Census Bureau document said that the new questionnaire included a “total revision to health insurance questions” and, in a test last year, produced lower estimates of the uninsured. Thus, officials said, it will be difficult to say how much of any change is attributable to the Affordable Care Act and how much to the use of a new survey instrument.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/16/us/politics...

NOTE: Not Fox, Beck, Limbaugh or Hannity. The New York Times reporting.

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