Who do you support for Governor in Oh...
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#25974 Feb 23, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Not at all. To be honest, I don't know if my niece does vote. Probably not because we usually discuss quite a bit of politics at family doings and she really has nothing to say.
You further my point about an advanced degree having anything to do with voting or politics. I'm sure many of us here could run circles around some of these college graduates when it comes to politics. We could probably do the same with your average Joe. Here are my points:
A person voting should know WTF they are voting on. If they do vote and don't know what they are voting on, then it neutralizes the vote of somebody that does know what's going on that's voting somewhat the opposite way.
If you and I go to the polls and you vote one way and I vote another. That's fine because we both know the issues and what's at stake for our country. It's just we have different views of the best way to aim our country, so your vote offsets mine and it's a wash. But it would be unfair to you if you understand the issues and policies, and somebody gets to the voting table and just starts punching "Rs" without knowing why.
Secondly, since politics is about money, how to spend money, and who to take money from, it's unfair to a taxpaying voter when a non-taxpaying voter votes to take that taxpayers money so he can get a government goodie of some kind.
Your money is meaningless in the scope of the federal budget. Only people who pay $50,000.00 a year in tax should get to vote. How's that?
Canton

Canton, OH

#25976 Feb 23, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Are you too stupid to detect a dog and pony show when you see one?
http://www.burntorangereport.com/diary/14845/...
Neat that when you are backed into a corner and want to sound like you know what you are talking about, you SUDDENLY agree with the Democrats. I detect a dog and pony show, all right. I just can't tell if you are the dog's @ss or the pony's.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#25977 Feb 23, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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No because I still pay money and a politician can still increase my taxes. A person not paying taxes should not be allowed to vote for that politician--I should. He has no stake in the game.
This is exactly what took place in my city a few years ago. They wanted to build all new school buildings. We have a lot of rental properties and some Section 8 residents. Why should they care if they tax me as a property owner so they can build their kids a new school? They didn't care because it wasn't their money building that school. The levy was voted down several times, but eventually it got passed, and now I'm paying an extra $500.00 per year so somebody else has a new school they can send their kids to. I just don't see how that's fair.
That politician can limit the non-taxpayer's civil rights and liberties. You value your civil rights and liberties less than you value $500?
Lefty

Byron, GA

#25978 Feb 23, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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No because I still pay money and a politician can still increase my taxes. A person not paying taxes should not be allowed to vote for that politician--I should. He has no stake in the game.
This is exactly what took place in my city a few years ago. They wanted to build all new school buildings. We have a lot of rental properties and some Section 8 residents. Why should they care if they tax me as a property owner so they can build their kids a new school? They didn't care because it wasn't their money building that school. The levy was voted down several times, but eventually it got passed, and now I'm paying an extra $500.00 per year so somebody else has a new school they can send their kids to. I just don't see how that's fair.
Disgusting, elitist ReTHUGlican crapola. Ohio's reTHUGlicans are already restricting voting in the hopes, combined with their gerrymandering, of holding onto power.

You should be paying a lot more in taxes.

Since: Jan 13

Lexington, KY

#25981 Feb 23, 2014
Our vote doesn't count anyway so what's the point.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#25982 Feb 23, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Are civil rights defined as having the ability to take money from others for your benefit?
No. Do you intend to continue to avoid the question?

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#25984 Feb 23, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
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Wrong.
"James Strom Thurmond (December 5, 1902 – June 26, 2003) was an American politician who served for 48 years as a United States Senator....Thurmond represented South Carolina in the United States Senate from 1954 until 2003, at first as a Democrat and, after 1964, as a Republican. He switched because of his opposition to the 1964 Civil Rights Act, disaffection with the liberalism of the national party..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strom_Thurmond
"The Democratic dominance of the South originated in many white Southerners' animosity towards the Republican Party's stance in favor of political rights for blacks during Reconstruction and Republican economic policies such as the high tariff and the support for continuing the gold standard, both of which were seen as benefiting Northern industrial interests at the expense of the agrarian South in the 19th century....
Beginning in about 1948, the national Democratic Party's support of the civil rights movement significantly reduced Southern support for the Democratic Party and allowed the Republican Party to make gains in the South."
"The Democratic candidate, Johnson, who had become president after Kennedy's assassination, spared no effort to win passage of a strong Civil Rights Act. After signing the landmark legislation, Johnson said to his aide, Bill Moyers; "I think we just delivered the South to the Republican Party for a long time to come."[4] In contrast, Johnson's Republican opponent, Senator Barry Goldwater of Arizona, voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964, believing it enhanced the federal government and infringed on the private property rights of businessmen."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_South
The nice thing is that bigots used to be quite proud of their bigotry. Now they try to conceal what they still believe, and distort their shared history. I consider that progress!
Not wrong at all the Links provided tell the truth about the Democrats and their postion when it came to Civil Rights like LBJ said & Confirmed where him and the Liberals Democrats stood about Black America.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#25985 Feb 23, 2014
Helen Roper wrote:
You worthless liberals are gonna get a big wake up call in November.
That is no doubt even the Liberals in California are turning on Obama and his Obamacare.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#25986 Feb 23, 2014
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>Be prepared to eat those words in December, basketcase...
Liberal Democrats in California have made it very clear have no use for Obama's version of Liberalism and his Obamacare he pushed hard for and there is going to be alot of basketcases leaving Washington DC and heading back to where they came from come this November.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#25987 Feb 23, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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My point of taxpayers being the only Americans allowed to vote is that it's their money they are voting on--not somebody else's. With our current system, politicians promise lowlifes all kinds of goodies, and they vote for that candidate because they are getting something for nothing. They are voting money out of my pocket into theirs.
This is what shocked Americans with Commie Care. They thought it was the standard taking from the wealthy and working and giving it to the non-working or low income people. Now they find out that they are paying for this insanity either directly or indirectly, and the polls are showing their dissatisfaction.
So True.

Since: Aug 12

Union City, GA

#25989 Feb 23, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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The only difference between my scenario and yours (other than my restrictions make more sense than yours) is that mine excludes you and yours doesn't. That is the only reason you object to mine.
The lesson to you should be that there exists in this country a great deal of people smarter and more qualified than you when it comes to making decisions of government so you should be very careful before you start deciding to disenfranchise people.
The current regime clearly has no business experience and its showing very well. Got it runnin like a well oiled piece of junk. ROFLMAO

Since: Aug 12

Union City, GA

#25990 Feb 23, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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Your money is meaningless in the scope of the federal budget. Only people who pay $50,000.00 a year in tax should get to vote. How's that?
A person paying more taxes should have more say in how their money is spent.
Old Guy

Mason, OH

#25991 Feb 23, 2014
It's pretty easy to lose the thread of the conversation here on Topix, especially when conversations sometimes span several days. Here's a brief summary of a recent exchange:
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
there is no way Southern Democrats changed their affiliation to Republican.
Old Guy wrote:
Wrong.
"James Strom Thurmond ... represented South Carolina in the United States Senate from 1954 until 2003, at first as a Democrat and, after 1964, as a Republican. He switched because of his opposition to the 1964 Civil Rights Act"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strom_Thurmond
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
Not wrong at all the Links provided tell the truth about the Democrats and their postion when it came to Civil Rights like LBJ said & Confirmed where him and the Liberals Democrats stood about Black America.
I was responding to your assertion "there is no way Southern Democrats changed their affiliation to Republican", with a concrete example (Strom Thurmond changing from Democrat to Republican) and another link that discussed the transformation of the South in general from Democrat to Republican. Your one sentence reply leads me to believe that you did not read the articles at all, and still don't understand this basic bit of our recent history.

"Though the "Solid South" had been a longtime Democratic Party stronghold due to the Democratic Party's defense of slavery before the American Civil War and segregation for a century thereafter, many white Southern Democrats stopped supporting the party following the civil rights plank of the Democratic campaign in 1948 (triggering the Dixiecrats), the African-American Civil Rights Movement, the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Voting Rights Act of 1965, and desegregation.

The strategy was first adopted under future Republican President Richard Nixon and Republican Senator Barry Goldwater in the late 1960s. The strategy was successful in winning 5 formerly Confederate states in both the 1964 and 1968 presidential elections. It contributed to the electoral realignment of some Southern states to the Republican Party, but at the expense of losing more than 90 percent of black voters to the Democratic Party. As the twentieth century came to a close, the Republican Party began attempting to appeal to black voters again, though with little success."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strateg...
Helen Roper

Dublin, OH

#25992 Feb 24, 2014
I wonder how long it will take for Pelosi's husband to divorce her once he realizes that she'll be home all the time.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#25993 Feb 24, 2014
Helen Roper wrote:
I wonder how long it will take for Pelosi's husband to divorce her once he realizes that she'll be home all the time.
Helen Roper.....great character in 3's company.

PS: if Pelosi visited Ohio in the winter her plastic surgery would get hard, and someone may mistake her for a shovel.
woo-boy

Van Wert, OH

#25994 Feb 24, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Are you too stupid to detect a dog and pony show when you see one?
http://www.burntorangereport.com/diary/14845/...
Kind of funny of you showing a link from burnt orange. That sounds just like what the Chinese call their highest level warning they have for smog and pollution alerts.
woo-boy

Van Wert, OH

#25995 Feb 24, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
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Helen Roper.....great character in 3's company.
PS: if Pelosi visited Ohio in the winter her plastic surgery would get hard, and someone may mistake her for a shovel.
You and Helen need to take another oxy and go back to sleep. It's nice when the intelligence level of posts are not lower than the last basement step. Or you two could hook up, you seem meant for each other.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#25996 Feb 24, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text> You and Helen need to take another oxy and go back to sleep. It's nice when the intelligence level of posts are not lower than the last basement step. Or you two could hook up, you seem meant for each other.
intelligence level of posts?

see above.......written by someone with ZERO substantive thought to answer a post without making an abject fool of themselves, by proving they only spin and distort to make themselves feel accomplishment the only time in their pathetic life.
woo-boy

Van Wert, OH

#25997 Feb 24, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
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intelligence level of posts?
see above.......written by someone with ZERO substantive thought to answer a post without making an abject fool of themselves, by proving they only spin and distort to make themselves feel accomplishment the only time in their pathetic life.
Good going, you just described yourself to a tee. Got to give you credit though, you typed more than one line at a time. Wait a minute, that was granny describing you and she doesn't know how to use the reply. That was way to smart to come from you. It's above the third grade level.
Canton

Canton, OH

#25998 Feb 24, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
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Helen Roper.....great character in 3's company.
PS: if Pelosi visited Ohio in the winter her plastic surgery would get hard, and someone may mistake her for a shovel.
Dude, that shovel comment is the first funny thing I have heard you say on here. Freaking funny.

And they say there's no bipartisanship.

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