Who do you support for Governor in Oh...
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25322 Feb 12, 2014
kuda wrote:
Matthew 19:4-6, which you cite, does not specifically define marriage as restricted exclusively to the union of one man and one woman.
I'm not sure how much plainer you need it to be. As that goofy saying goes, "God made Adam & Eve, not Adam & Steve".

The bible aside, homosexuality makes no sense whatsoever. It's like having two left hands. But both halves of humanity coming together to make a whole makes perfect sense. It's complete, it's natural, and it works.
While I agree with you that each society needs to make its laws based on what its people believe are best and I’m willing to assume, for the sake of discussion, that up to this point our society has been guided primarily by Christian values, I believe your conclusion that as a result we have become the most powerful, prosperous nation on earth to be unwarranted....
Likewise, citing certain infectious diseases, including HIV, to be present-day evidence of homosexuality as an abomination, is equally invalid ... since certain infectious diseases, including HIV, are a risk factor for all people.
HIV isn't a risk for all groups. Uninfected people who are faithful in their lifetime relationships aren't at risk.

AIDS was first identified among MSM. It apparently spread to heterosexuals through bi-sexual relations. Still, even though there are many, many more heterosexuals than homosexuals, MSM account for the majority of HIV infections.

Concerning the US being the most powerful and prosperous nation on earth, it certainly was a result of Christian values, as well as an understanding of who God is. The founders recognized that all men are created equal, and that each one is endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights ... life, liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That concept set the United States apart from every other nation, and it allowed its citizens to pursue their dreams to the fullest.

If God-haters spent as much time trying to understand God, as they do nit-picking at verses and pointing fingers at the flawed human beings who believe, they might understand the good life that God wants for them, and that living self-controlled, decent lives is the only way to be free. No STDs, no unwed pregnancies, no addictions, stable home lives, hard working & honest.

Jesus said the two greatest commandments are to love God with all our hearts, and to love our neighbors as ourselves. These sum up the law and the prophets.(Simple, but difficult to do.)
will man

Salem, OH

#25323 Feb 12, 2014
animal control wrote:
Im very impressed with the acoplisments ted has made here, bob taft ranked on the bottem of the usa's govonors. Plus ted has moviestar good looks.
Where was John when OHIO Needed Him?
Kacich was lining his pockets with bogus lehman bruddaha's firesale funds when ohio needed him most ,but our options were ted or ken blackwell(I voted for blackwell).
kasich apears to have bad hygene and is just a fugly looking person, he was living with another man in DC before he went & got married to make it apear he is hetrosexual.he is very unstable and has made a career out of being a suck to many upper class folks.
On his own kasich is nothing, just like one eve little mike.
go away johnney,get lost mcSwine
Don't B Red
VOTE 4 TED
Wow. um im not a big kasich fan either but look at the turnaround since ted left...instead of debt and no jobs we have a rainy day fund and a few jobs. sorry mate but old ted may have looked pretty but that was on of the few things he was good at.
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#25324 Feb 12, 2014
mutt wrote:
HIV isn't a risk for all groups. Uninfected people who are faithful in their lifetime relationships aren't at risk.
Unless they get it through an accidental needle stick, or through a blood transfusion, or from a partner who is HIV positive. Or you were born with it, because your mother was infected.

It's a disease, to which we are all vulnerable.

"In 2009, an estimated 27% of human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infections in the United States were attributed to heterosexual contact."

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm62...
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#25325 Feb 13, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Unless they get it through an accidental needle stick, or through a blood transfusion, or from a partner who is HIV positive. Or you were born with it, because your mother was infected.
It's a disease, to which we are all vulnerable.
"In 2009, an estimated 27% of human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infections in the United States were attributed to heterosexual contact."
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm62...
It is 5:30 Am, and I took a break from Topix, and will again till tomorrow AM.

When you say I am mad, the trolls on here are a plague ruining this country

All your above excuses for deviant behavior are excuses.

Maybe AIDS infected people need banned from public places and all hospitals and clinics?

a needle may stick an uninfected person.

with guns the thought of someone shooting someone has people wanting a ban, but there is far greater chance of getting AIDS at the hospital because of some deviants bedroom play.

“Meh.”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#25326 Feb 13, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
It is 5:30 Am, and I took a break from Topix, and will again till tomorrow AM.
When you say I am mad, the trolls on here are a plague ruining this country
All your above excuses for deviant behavior are excuses.
Maybe AIDS infected people need banned from public places and all hospitals and clinics?
a needle may stick an uninfected person.
with guns the thought of someone shooting someone has people wanting a ban, but there is far greater chance of getting AIDS at the hospital because of some deviants bedroom play.
This reads as though you're saying people are more likely to contract AIDs in a hospital setting than be shot in the US. Which must be a failure on my part, because I don't think anyone is stupid enough to make that claim. Could you help me understand what you're actually trying to say here?
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#25327 Feb 13, 2014
tranpsosition wrote:
<quoted text>
This reads as though you're saying people are more likely to contract AIDs in a hospital setting than be shot in the US. Which must be a failure on my part, because I don't think anyone is stupid enough to make that claim. Could you help me understand what you're actually trying to say here?
more babies are aborted in a day than people shot in a year, here in the USA.

simple enough English for you Professor?

with 25 advanced degrees you should be able to grasp simple thought, or were the degrees just a lie.

“Meh.”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#25328 Feb 13, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
more babies are aborted in a day than people shot in a year, here in the USA.
simple enough English for you Professor?
with 25 advanced degrees you should be able to grasp simple thought, or were the degrees just a lie.
These numbers don't match up any more than the proportion of AIDs infections spread through hospitals to shooting deaths would.

Is this a sort of strange hyperbolic speech where you compare two things inverse to their actual frequency to prove a point? I'm not sure I follow what point you're trying to make by using examples where the opposite is clearly true.

Since: Jan 13

Nicholasville, KY

#25329 Feb 13, 2014
mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not sure how much plainer you need it to be. As that goofy saying goes, "God made Adam & Eve, not Adam & Steve".
The bible aside, homosexuality makes no sense whatsoever. It's like having two left hands. But both halves of humanity coming together to make a whole makes perfect sense. It's complete, it's natural, and it works.
<quoted text>
HIV isn't a risk for all groups. Uninfected people who are faithful in their lifetime relationships aren't at risk.
AIDS was first identified among MSM. It apparently spread to heterosexuals through bi-sexual relations. Still, even though there are many, many more heterosexuals than homosexuals, MSM account for the majority of HIV infections.
Concerning the US being the most powerful and prosperous nation on earth, it certainly was a result of Christian values, as well as an understanding of who God is. The founders recognized that all men are created equal, and that each one is endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights ... life, liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That concept set the United States apart from every other nation, and it allowed its citizens to pursue their dreams to the fullest.
If God-haters spent as much time trying to understand God, as they do nit-picking at verses and pointing fingers at the flawed human beings who believe, they might understand the good life that God wants for them, and that living self-controlled, decent lives is the only way to be free. No STDs, no unwed pregnancies, no addictions, stable home lives, hard working & honest.
Jesus said the two greatest commandments are to love God with all our hearts, and to love our neighbors as ourselves. These sum up the law and the prophets.(Simple, but difficult to do.)
God made all life and to say Christian values are the basis of Americas greatness is a delusional statement. America was great, past tense not so much anymore. I love my country but I am saddend by all the political bullshit and greed. There is no work ethic or loyalty, kids are disrespectful and lazy and it seems nobody wants to work for what they get. I don't want the government in my personal business nor in my bedroom. I have no ill will towards the Christian religion nor any religion my beef is with Christians who judge me and aren't living the Christian way there ownselves. A lot of folks can talk the talk but few can walk the walk.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#25330 Feb 13, 2014
tranpsosition wrote:
<quoted text>
These numbers don't match up any more than the proportion of AIDs infections spread through hospitals to shooting deaths would.
Is this a sort of strange hyperbolic speech where you compare two things inverse to their actual frequency to prove a point? I'm not sure I follow what point you're trying to make by using examples where the opposite is clearly true.
strange?

what is strange professor with 25 advanced degrees.....you can't understand there are 2750 babies aborted every single day in the USA?

were there even 20 shooting's yesterday?

now that I cleared that up for you, are guns or women more dangerous to babies?

even with war.....women kill more babies in a week than war does in a year.

Women killed more babies in January 2014 alone, than Americans who died in Viet Nam and Iraq wars combined.

only thing true about your argument is that you are clueless to reality.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#25331 Feb 13, 2014
joanna50 wrote:
<quoted text>God made all life and to say Christian values are the basis of Americas greatness is a delusional statement. America was great, past tense not so much anymore. I love my country but I am saddend by all the political bullshit and greed. There is no work ethic or loyalty, kids are disrespectful and lazy and it seems nobody wants to work for what they get. I don't want the government in my personal business nor in my bedroom. I have no ill will towards the Christian religion nor any religion my beef is with Christians who judge me and aren't living the Christian way there ownselves. A lot of folks can talk the talk but few can walk the walk.
walking the talk was taught to me my my parents, and is now part of life like shaving is normal daily behavior.

not walking the tack by the person, and watch the excuses vomit from their mouths.

I have no need to judge anyone with exception of my wanting to spend time with them, or where I spend my money.

Judgement day is an appointment every human has when they die. For all to many, It also is the 1st appointment guaranteed you will on time for.
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25332 Feb 13, 2014
joanna50 wrote:
God made all life and to say Christian values are the basis of Americas greatness is a delusional statement.
What do you attribute it to?
America was great, past tense not so much anymore. I love my country but I am saddend by all the political bullshit and greed. There is no work ethic or loyalty, kids are disrespectful and lazy and it seems nobody wants to work for what they get.
You're proving my point here. The more our country turns its back on God, the worse things are getting.
I don't want the government in my personal business nor in my bedroom. I have no ill will towards the Christian religion nor any religion my beef is with Christians who judge me and aren't living the Christian way there ownselves. A lot of folks can talk the talk but few can walk the walk.
The citizens of a free country have the right to say what they will and won't accept in their society. As far as I'm concerned, whatever you do in your bedroom is your own business. But whatever legal recognition your activities get is another matter. For example, if these things were put on a ballot, this is how I would vote ...

Should homosexual activity be outlawed?
No

Should homosexual marriage be recognized by the state?
No

People should have the freedom to live their lives however they want, as long as they're not harming others. When an activity or lifestyle is recognized by the state, though, that brings me into it. I'm forced to accept it as being something that's valid and credible. I don't want my kids to be taught in health class that gay sex is okay, or that it's perfectly normal for little Joey to have two mommies. There's nothing normal about that.
decisions decisions

Cincinnati, OH

#25333 Feb 13, 2014
mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not sure how much plainer you need it to be. As that goofy saying goes, "God made Adam & Eve, not Adam & Steve".
The bible aside, homosexuality makes no sense whatsoever. It's like having two left hands. But both halves of humanity coming together to make a whole makes perfect sense. It's complete, it's natural, and it works.
<quoted text>
HIV isn't a risk for all groups. Uninfected people who are faithful in their lifetime relationships aren't at risk.
AIDS was first identified among MSM. It apparently spread to heterosexuals through bi-sexual relations. Still, even though there are many, many more heterosexuals than homosexuals, MSM account for the majority of HIV infections.
Concerning the US being the most powerful and prosperous nation on earth, it certainly was a result of Christian values, as well as an understanding of who God is. The founders recognized that all men are created equal, and that each one is endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights ... life, liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That concept set the United States apart from every other nation, and it allowed its citizens to pursue their dreams to the fullest.
If God-haters spent as much time trying to understand God, as they do nit-picking at verses and pointing fingers at the flawed human beings who believe, they might understand the good life that God wants for them, and that living self-controlled, decent lives is the only way to be free. No STDs, no unwed pregnancies, no addictions, stable home lives, hard working & honest.
Jesus said the two greatest commandments are to love God with all our hearts, and to love our neighbors as ourselves. These sum up the law and the prophets.(Simple, but difficult to do.)
By "god-haters," you appear to be referring to those who disagree with you. It begs the question whether you believe you're god. I suspect you do, or perhaps you just feel uniquely qualified to tell everyone exactly what's on god's mind.

What could be plainer, as you put it, would be the presence of any biblical statement prescribing marriage exclusively between one man and one woman. Yes, I'm aware of the extensive list of abominations and contradictions.

You say that "AIDS was first identified among MSM." I assume you're using the fringe cliché for "main stream media," meaning not Fox or Limbaugh. Still, the statement is unintelligible unless you actually believe that news reporters were the first AIDS victims. However, I believe you meant to suggest that there was some kind of conspiracy involved. Why would god punish gay men with AIDS and bless lesbians with the lowest rate of incidence? None of that makes any sense.

By the way, the founding fathers actually struck the words "god given right" and substituted "inalienable right" (not unalienable) in the final draft and they did it for a reason. Thanks Ben — RIP and party on!
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#25334 Feb 13, 2014
decisions decisions wrote:
<quoted text>
By "god-haters," you appear to be referring to those who disagree with you. It begs the question whether you believe you're god. I suspect you do, or perhaps you just feel uniquely qualified to tell everyone exactly what's on god's mind.
What could be plainer, as you put it, would be the presence of any biblical statement prescribing marriage exclusively between one man and one woman. Yes, I'm aware of the extensive list of abominations and contradictions.
You say that "AIDS was first identified among MSM." I assume you're using the fringe cliché for "main stream media," meaning not Fox or Limbaugh. Still, the statement is unintelligible unless you actually believe that news reporters were the first AIDS victims. However, I believe you meant to suggest that there was some kind of conspiracy involved. Why would god punish gay men with AIDS and bless lesbians with the lowest rate of incidence? None of that makes any sense.
By the way, the founding fathers actually struck the words "god given right" and substituted "inalienable right" (not unalienable) in the final draft and they did it for a reason. Thanks Ben — RIP and party on!
the 10 commandments

following them keeps you out of trouble.

including disease.

can you think of any religion that disagrees with what the 10 commandments say?

Since: Jan 13

Lexington, KY

#25335 Feb 13, 2014
mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you attribute it to?
<quoted text>
You're proving my point here. The more our country turns its back on God, the worse things are getting.
<quoted text>
The citizens of a free country have the right to say what they will and won't accept in their society. As far as I'm concerned, whatever you do in your bedroom is your own business. But whatever legal recognition your activities get is another matter. For example, if these things were put on a ballot, this is how I would vote ...
Should homosexual activity be outlawed?
No
Should homosexual marriage be recognized by the state?
No
People should have the freedom to live their lives however they want, as long as they're not harming others. When an activity or lifestyle is recognized by the state, though, that brings me into it. I'm forced to accept it as being something that's valid and credible. I don't want my kids to be taught in health class that gay sex is okay, or that it's perfectly normal for little Joey to have two mommies. There's nothing normal about that.
How am I proving your point, I am unclear on what your point is unless its all good what others do as long as you don't have to reconigize differing lifestyles than your own. My getting married doesn't have any legal bearing on your life, how would me marrying another woman affect you?. I don't want my kids taught sex in school that's not their job that would be mine as a parent. And as far as little joey having two mommies how is that any more abnormal than where the hell is joeys dad. As long as the kid is loved and taught morals and values I don't care if he is raised by wolves. You don't have to believe in my lifestyle its none of your business but to deny me the same rights as you have is unconstitunional and im fairly certain against what God would want.
Canton

Canton, OH

#25336 Feb 13, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
It is 5:30 Am, and I took a break from Topix, and will again till tomorrow AM.
When you say I am mad, the trolls on here are a plague ruining this country
All your above excuses for deviant behavior are excuses.
Maybe AIDS infected people need banned from public places and all hospitals and clinics?
a needle may stick an uninfected person.
with guns the thought of someone shooting someone has people wanting a ban, but there is far greater chance of getting AIDS at the hospital because of some deviants bedroom play.
Ooooh I know. What if we make everyone get a mark that shows if they are infected. It could also be used to keep illegal aliens out of our country and let us know if the person has a criminal record. We can call it the "Patriot Mark" and anyone who refuses to get it would obviously be a terrorist. Forcing people to get the "Patriot mark" would in fact line up perfectly with a rightwing Conservative agenda, AND it would finally be absolute PROOF that the Bible was right all along...right?
Canton

Canton, OH

#25337 Feb 13, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
the 10 commandments
following them keeps you out of trouble.
including disease.
can you think of any religion that disagrees with what the 10 commandments say?
Could you imagine how primitive someone would have to be, if the only reason they weren't randomly murdering people is because some old book of fables told them it was wrong? Someone must have shared the 10 Commandments with the squirrels that live in neighborhood, because even they don't just randomly kill each other. Many of the commandments seem to be geared at protecting the wealthy. Not that the church parking lot full of Lexus SUVs doesn't "covet" the rusted out beater car that the poor guy is driving.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#25338 Feb 13, 2014
joanna50 wrote:
<quoted text>How am I proving your point, I am unclear on what your point is unless its all good what others do as long as you don't have to reconigize differing lifestyles than your own. My getting married doesn't have any legal bearing on your life, how would me marrying another woman affect you?. I don't want my kids taught sex in school that's not their job that would be mine as a parent. And as far as little joey having two mommies how is that any more abnormal than where the hell is joeys dad. As long as the kid is loved and taught morals and values I don't care if he is raised by wolves. You don't have to believe in my lifestyle its none of your business but to deny me the same rights as you have is unconstitunional and im fairly certain against what God would want.
what right don't you have that I do?
Canton

Canton, OH

#25339 Feb 13, 2014
Strange that the guy who claims to follow the 10 Commandments is the only one on here making death threats.
Canton

Canton, OH

#25340 Feb 13, 2014
Also, very interesting that the self proclaimed "Christians" on here are usually the ones getting busted for telling lies.
decisions aka kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#25341 Feb 13, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
the 10 commandments
following them keeps you out of trouble.
including disease.
can you think of any religion that disagrees with what the 10 commandments say?
I agree with you that following the ten commandments will help people stay out of trouble and that indeed may have some pro health consequences. However, these may be attributable to a variety of mechanisms, not to any either direct or specific, the one exception being the ban on adultery that would spread infectious diseases.

There are religions that developed separately from Christianity and hence do not agree with all ten of the commandments, especially the first four. Consider Buddhism, Hinduism and Taoism, which are traditions considerably separate from Judaism, Christianity and Islam. The first four commandments pertain to man's vertical relationship (i.e., with god), whereas the remainder refer to our horizontal relationships (i.e., with one another).I'm aware of no religion, past or contemporary, that advocates violating the last six commandments.

Thanks for keeping an open mind. You ask interesting questions, good for discussion.

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