Who do you support for Governor in Oh...
Canton

Canton, OH

#24720 Jan 28, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
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If I were to hit you in a car accident, I caused damage to your vehicle, and possibly you.
That is why car insurance is mandatory in Ohio. You must pay for the damage you create. Simple enough.
Heath however quite different. How do I create damage upon you that I must be responsible for?
This is just another failed spin tactic from the left in attempt to cover up the POWER the elected officials gain by government provided healthcare.
Who pays for it, when an uninsured individual goes to the ER? We do. Damage.
Pops

Newport, KY

#24721 Jan 28, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
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If I were to hit you in a car accident, I caused damage to your vehicle, and possibly you.
That is why car insurance is mandatory in Ohio. You must pay for the damage you create. Simple enough..Health however quite different. How do I create damage upon you that I must be responsible for?
True but that is why car ins isn't 1/6th of the economy & doesn't get the 'devotion' & attention of the greedy for power federal politicians & egotistical president.

This is just another failed spin tactic from the left in attempt to cover up the POWER the elected officials gain by government provided healthcare.
Like you said....POWER! Power over THE people/us. IF they are sincere about helping the populace, quit mean mouthing the other side, spend their energy in positive ways, quit lying or covering for liars & follow the constitution ! It is still the LAW of the land & it still applies!

Since: Aug 12

Acworth, GA

#24722 Jan 28, 2014
Canton wrote:
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Boy...you showed me? I mean, except for the part where you are just babbling and don't make any sense. You were so "driven" that you let your parents hold the wheel for you. Some were so driven, that they reached out their fat little trust fund baby hands and said "gimme gimme", followed by being handed 400 acres. Others are "driven" by 18 wheels and a knowledge about our climate that trumps science.
The envy is strong with this one.........
uytreerftgyhj

Cincinnati, OH

#24723 Jan 28, 2014
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Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#24724 Jan 28, 2014
Canton wrote:
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Who pays for it, when an uninsured individual goes to the ER? We do. Damage.
Did you know that law was enacted by Ronald Reagan? As I recall it was in response to several deaths that occurred soon after hospitals refused to admit people that couldn't pay.

It's a costly way to deliver healthcare to the uninsured.

"According to the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, 55% of U.S. emergency care now goes uncompensated. When medical bills go unpaid, health care providers must either shift the costs onto those who can pay or go uncompensated. In the first decade of EMTALA, such cost-shifting amounted to a hidden tax levied by providers. For example, it has been estimated that this cost shifting amounted to $455 per individual or $1,186 per family in California each year."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medica...
Canton

Canton, OH

#24725 Jan 28, 2014
UdintBuildThat wrote:
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The envy is strong with this one.........
Look Greedo, you'll get your money.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#24727 Jan 29, 2014
Canton wrote:
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Look Greedo, you'll get your money.
My Star Wars personality tested out as Han Solo! So suck it.
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#24728 Jan 29, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
Maybe not, but that's the way I'd bet. We need the smartest next generation that we can foster, if we are going to succeed as a nation in the 21st Century. And it's certainly more profitable for the individual:
" Adults with bachelor's degrees in the late 1970s earned 55 percent more than adults who had not advanced beyond high school. That gap grew to 75 percent by 1990 -- and is now at 85 percent."
http://www.bizjournals.com/bizjournals/on-num...
I agree, if a kid wants to go to college. But even with all the grants, scholarships, and loans available now, there are still a lot of kids who don't want anything to do with it. Their time would be better spent pursuing a trade. TX has some HS vocational schools, but I don't know how many. Maybe the govt is wanting to give those more attention.

A college education is great, but it's too expensive these days ... who wants to be a 22-year-old kid fresh out of school, saddled with tens of thousands of dollars worth of debt?
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#24729 Jan 29, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
Did you know that law was enacted by Ronald Reagan? As I recall it was in response to several deaths that occurred soon after hospitals refused to admit people that couldn't pay.
It's a costly way to deliver healthcare to the uninsured.
Reagan should have heeded his own warning: "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are,'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'" Big Brother saves the day again, and we're all suffering for it.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#24730 Jan 29, 2014
Super Mutt wrote:
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First I'll say that I disagree with Huckabee's decision to force insurance companies to sell anything. That's socialistic in nature. Second, I think states should run their affairs the way they see fit, unless they're committing actual human rights abuses. The citizenry usually has mechanisms in place to rid themselves of undesirable politicians and policies, if they choose to. Third, I don't think religious-based businesses had to comply. Here is the actual bill:
http://www.arkleg.state.ar.us/assembly/2005/R...
From the bill:
"Religious employer" means an entity:
(A)....
(B) That has as one (1) of its primary purposes the inculcation of religious values; and
(C)....
"Inculcation" means "to teach and impress by frequent repetitions or admonitions ". Even businesses like Hobby Lobby or Chick-fil-A have demonstrated for years that their core values are Christian. Everyone knows it. So, I would be surprised to learn that they had to comply.
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It is quite an irony for dems to accuse repubs of having a war on women, when one of their biggest heroes took advantage of a young woman in his office. And I'll add to Paul's comment by saying, because Clinton lied for months about the affair, he caused every sordid bit of it to be revealed, which made Lewinsky a laughing stock and damaged her reputation beyond repair. He also cheated on his wife. And among other infidelity issues, he's suspected of having raped a woman. So, until you dems fully address that and call Clinton out for what he is, you don't need to be accusing repubs of waging a war on women.
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I didn't listen to the interview, but aren't the republicans in the House the ones who were accused of shutting down the govt? Cruz is a Senator. He may have lit the fire, but he didn't write the budget, and he didn't cast one vote in the House.
This is the way it happened: Cruz filibustered in the Senate against ObamaCare. The House passed a budget that funded all the govt except OC. Obama refused to negotiate, and punished Americans by spending more money to shut things down, than it costs to keep them open.
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"No Child Left Behind" is a separate matter. I'm not in favor of that program, because I think the fed govt should leave us the hell alone. States, counties, and local governments should be in charge of their own schools. Their children are the ones in them.
When I was in school, Algebra II was a college-prep course. Kids who wanted to go into vocational fields didn't have to take it. Not every kid wants to go to college. It's better for them to concentrate on their real job goals. College is no guarantee of success.
Typical deflection, Clinton was two decades ago,Sanford is a lot more recent. You know the guy the morally superior wanna-be's re-elected back into office after his tax-payer funded hiking trip to Argentina to see his mistress. Nice morals. Michigan just passed a law demanding extra insurance for women who become pregnant from rape or incest to get an abortion.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#24731 Jan 29, 2014
4 more Texas idiots for you poochie:

1-28-14-The four Republicans running for Texas Lieutenant Governer say the judge got it wrong by allowing a brain-dead pregnant woman in Fort Worth to be removed from life support.(in other words 'WE OWN THAT WOMAN' to hell with her family and their wishes and beliefs)
It seems that last nights live station KERA debate was a race to the far right for the candidates. All 4 candidates also agreed that Texas children should be taught evolution, creationism and intelligent design in science studies.
2 of the 4 candidates...Patrick & Patterson are against permitting abortion in the case of incest or rape. Staples & Dewhurst side-stepped the question.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#24732 Jan 29, 2014
The GOP has to go back to school:

www.kansascity.com/2014/01/27/gop-tries-to-sc...
Canton

Canton, OH

#24733 Jan 29, 2014
UdintBuildThat wrote:
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My Star Wars personality tested out as Han Solo! So suck it.
Since when does Han Solo work for the Empire? I picture you more like a Gimme Gimme from the planet Trustfundia.
Canton

Canton, OH

#24734 Jan 29, 2014
mutt wrote:
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Reagan should have heeded his own warning: "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are,'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'" Big Brother saves the day again, and we're all suffering for it.
Oh Seriously....oops...I meant Super Mutt....oops I meant Mutt.
Canton

Canton, OH

#24735 Jan 29, 2014
Obama knocks it out of the park on the State of the Union speech while the Republicans show their true colors by threatening to throw a reporter off a roof and kill him. Just seeing Boehner's drunken, angry Oompaloompa orange face in the background while everyone else applauded Obama's Climate Change comments made my day.
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#24736 Jan 29, 2014
Canton wrote:
Oh Seriously....oops...I meant Super Mutt....oops I meant Mutt.
Are you trying to imply something, dipshit? You're like Billy Milligan on here with all the different names you use.

I was "mutt" on groupee.net for years, and have posted under that name on here before, when I haven't bothered signing in.
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#24737 Jan 29, 2014
Canton wrote:
Obama knocks it out of the park on the State of the Union speech while the Republicans show their true colors by threatening to throw a reporter off a roof and kill him. Just seeing Boehner's drunken, angry Oompaloompa orange face in the background while everyone else applauded Obama's Climate Change comments made my day.
I enjoyed watching the SOTU speech. It's not every day I get to see Obama lie his ass off for an hour straight. Every couple minutes I would shout, "YOU LIE!" It was big fun.
Canton

Chillicothe, OH

#24738 Jan 29, 2014
mutt wrote:
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I enjoyed watching the SOTU speech. It's not every day I get to see Obama lie his ass off for an hour straight. Every couple minutes I would shout, "YOU LIE!" It was big fun.
The number of bold faced lies told in the first 5-10 minutes was just amazing. He honestly thinks the people are too stupid to know better.

And why do they blatantly roll normal Medicaid enrollees into the ACA numbers?
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#24739 Jan 29, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
4 more Texas idiots for you poochie:
1-28-14-The four Republicans running for Texas Lieutenant Governer say the judge got it wrong by allowing a brain-dead pregnant woman in Fort Worth to be removed from life support.(in other words 'WE OWN THAT WOMAN' to hell with her family and their wishes and beliefs)
They wanted her unborn baby to have a chance to survive, which explains why you agree with the judge's decision.
It seems that last nights live station KERA debate was a race to the far right for the candidates. All 4 candidates also agreed that Texas children should be taught evolution, creationism and intelligent design in science studies.
And? I don't necessarily agree with Creationism being taught, but I do believe ID should be. It makes a lot more sense than "matter magically appeared out of nothing; then a tiny, living cell that's more complex than any computer man has ever created suddenly appeared out of nothing; then it eventually figured out how to go from that to a human being.
No one has proven that God does NOT exist, so the possibility of ID should be presented to school kids. What problem do you have with different theories being explained to them, and letting the kids make their own choices? Kinda sounds like you just want to indoctrinate them.
2 of the 4 candidates...Patrick & Patterson are against permitting abortion in the case of incest or rape. Staples & Dewhurst side-stepped the question.
I agree with Patrick & Patterson. Until you ilbtards can prove the exact moment that a child goes from being "a bunch of cells" to a human being, then each unborn child should be treated as a separate life that needs protected under the law.
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#24740 Jan 29, 2014
Canton wrote:
The number of bold faced lies told in the first 5-10 minutes was just amazing. He honestly thinks the people are too stupid to know better.
And why do they blatantly roll normal Medicaid enrollees into the ACA numbers?
The number of people who have actually purchased insurance must be horrible, so they have to include welfare recipients, too.

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