Canton

Canton, OH

#24669 Jan 27, 2014
Super Mutt wrote:
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I'm not affiliated with any Tea Party group, nor have I ever worked with one or attended a rally. I was a conservative long before the Tea Party came into existence, and I'll be one long after it's gone.
Your twisting and distorting of facts just proves you're a liar. BUSTED, dipshit.
Libertarian? Constitutionalist? Rightwing Christian Conservative? Kochwh0re? Who can keep up with all the cutesy little titles you guys, who are trying to distance yourselves from the GW Bush nightmare you inflicted on this nation, are calling yourselves this week?

Since: Jan 14

Chillicothe, OH

#24672 Jan 27, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
There are always skeptics. No one is denying there are individual scientists that reject man made climate change. Among scientists studying climate change, their number has been estimated at about 3%. How about pointing us to any scientific organization (not an individual) that supports your beliefs. If it is not a fringe belief, that should not be difficult.

Here's a link to a list of 198 well known scientific organizations, all of which support the idea that climate change is real and is man made:
http://opr.ca.gov/s_listoforganizations.php
Where's your list?
Organizations are usually bought and paid for, and sometimes don't even have the interests of their members in mind. The AMA is a perfect example of this. Pelosi & Reid gave them a backroom deal, in order to get their support for ObamaCare. They're seriously out of step with the opinions of their own members.

http://blogs.ajc.com/health-flock/2011/09/08/...

I doubt if scientific organizations are any different. Bought and paid for by the govt, in order to keep getting funding.

I've already given you a long list of scientists who doubt or disbelieve in man-made global warming. Some of them were once in the global-warming camp, but discovered that the science didn't hold up. Apparently, you've chosen to completely disregard their opinions, even though you have no proof that man has caused any warming. Continue on with your hysteria.

Since: Jan 14

Chillicothe, OH

#24673 Jan 27, 2014
Canton wrote:
I feel so stupid...except for the last two elections, the GOP looking at conservatives as paid tools, the Pope publically denouncing your views, science overwhelmingly agreeing with mine...
Hey, who was your favorite Conservative president within your life time?
There hasn't been a real conservative president in my lifetime. I liked Reagan, but he spent too much and granted amnesty to illegals. Both the Bushes were moderates.

You seem to value the pope's opinion a lot. What is it about the Catholic church that you like so much? I'm beginning to think you're the one who likes to grope kids.
seriously

Chillicothe, OH

#24674 Jan 27, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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And as wages got higher and higher, it eventually made more economic sense to have those products manufactured outside of the US and shipped back here.
Every Wal-Mart shopper knows quite well where their products come from, yet, Wal-Mart is number one and will remain that way.
Americans demand cheap products, and that's what companies cater to.
Do you really think such a large trade deficit is any thing other than lobbyists, CEO's and policy makers getting filthy rich? The cheaper stuff they put on the shelves, the less money you can survive on, I just don't think it's market driven, it's policy induced.
Canton

Canton, OH

#24675 Jan 27, 2014
Super Mutt wrote:
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There hasn't been a real conservative president in my lifetime. I liked Reagan, but he spent too much and granted amnesty to illegals. Both the Bushes were moderates.
You seem to value the pope's opinion a lot. What is it about the Catholic church that you like so much? I'm beginning to think you're the one who likes to grope kids.
I think you need to ponder the fact that there hasn't been an elected Conservative president in your life time. It's called the true voice of the American people. The thing I like about the current Pope, is probably what makes him so much more popular than the last rightwing Pope. He thinks you are a douche. Religion is a form of mental illness. So much for your deflection. Also, since you didn't deny that you grope toddlers, we'll take that as a "more than 10" answer. By the way, are you a Christian?
Canton

Canton, OH

#24676 Jan 27, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
You're a legend in your own mind Canton.
Nope, just pointing out the FACT that one doesn't have to be a Liberal, which I am obviously not, to think that you guys suck and to take joy in the fact that you'll never be relevant in this nation again.
Canton

Canton, OH

#24677 Jan 27, 2014
seriously wrote:
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Do you really think such a large trade deficit is any thing other than lobbyists, CEO's and policy makers getting filthy rich? The cheaper stuff they put on the shelves, the less money you can survive on, I just don't think it's market driven, it's policy induced.
Wow, you think you know someone.
Canton

Canton, OH

#24678 Jan 27, 2014
Super Mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
Organizations are usually bought and paid for, and sometimes don't even have the interests of their members in mind. The AMA is a perfect example of this. Pelosi & Reid gave them a backroom deal, in order to get their support for ObamaCare. They're seriously out of step with the opinions of their own members.
http://blogs.ajc.com/health-flock/2011/09/08/...
I doubt if scientific organizations are any different. Bought and paid for by the govt, in order to keep getting funding.
I've already given you a long list of scientists who doubt or disbelieve in man-made global warming. Some of them were once in the global-warming camp, but discovered that the science didn't hold up. Apparently, you've chosen to completely disregard their opinions, even though you have no proof that man has caused any warming. Continue on with your hysteria.
You have provided a long list of scientists, you say? Lie/VOID
seriously

Chillicothe, OH

#24679 Jan 27, 2014
Canton wrote:
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Wow, you think you know someone.
*sigh* Once again I have no clue what you are trying to say.
Pops

Newport, KY

#24680 Jan 27, 2014
Super Mutt wrote:
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You just told 3 in your last post to me:
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Lie.
Old Guy has taken the time to find links to back up every one of his arguments, as faulty as they may be.
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Lie.
I've shared sound, scientific arguments against global warming hysteria, as well as quotes from reputed scientists who are either skeptical or don't believe that man-made global warming is occurring.
<quoted text>
Lie.
Gallup poll dated Jan 10, 2014:
Source:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/01/...
People identifying as liberals: 23%
People identifying as conservatives: 38%
And then for good measure, I'll refer you to your post about racism in the democrat party (#24400). I had listed the history of racism from slavery thru the Jim Crow Era. Yet, you still said I would have to go back to the Civil War to find a racist democrat. Lie.
AMAZINGLY straight up & pointed !

“Hereeeeee'ssss UR Pizza”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#24682 Jan 27, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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I do not need the likes of you to tell me what he said.
I am telling you what he didn't say: That millions of women voters disagree with his intent to limit availability to low cost/free contraception.
Bye bye GOP 2016
woof
LOL

Are you making a prediction on the record?

How do you think it will go in 2014?

“Hereeeeee'ssss UR Pizza”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#24684 Jan 27, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
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Those definitions come from an anonymous poster, on a website that is crude and appears to be the work of a single individual. Why should I believe him anymore than I do you? This whole "sovereign individual" bit is a bunch of nonsense, and has nothing to do with the definition of of "republic" or democracy.
"republic
re·pub·lic
[ri-puhb-lik]
noun
1.
a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them.
2.
any body of persons viewed as a commonwealth.
3.
a state in which the head of government is not a monarch or other hereditary head of state."
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/republ...
"democracy
de·moc·ra·cy
[dih-mok-ruh-see]
noun, plural de·moc·ra·cies.
1.
government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
2.
a state having such a form of government: The United States and Canada are democracies.
3.
a state of society characterized by formal equality of rights and privileges."
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/democr...
This whole "sovereign citizen" nonsense was never a part of the definition of either word. The concept didn't even exist until the late 1960s.
"The concept of a sovereign citizen originated in the Posse Comitatus movement as a teaching of Christian Identity minister William P. Gale. The concept has influenced the tax protester movement, the Christian Patriot movement, and the redemption movement—the last of which claims that the U.S. government uses its citizens as collateral against foreign debt."
"The United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) classifies "sovereign citizen extremists" among domestic terror threats."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citize...
So then, How did you vote on the affordable care act???? For or against?
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#24686 Jan 27, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
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How about pointing us to any scientific organization (not an individual) that supports your beliefs. If it is not a fringe belief, that should not be difficult.
Here's a link to a list of 198 well known scientific organizations, all of which support the idea that climate change is real and is man made:
http://opr.ca.gov/s_listoforganizations.php
Where's your list?
Super Mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
Organizations are usually bought and paid for, and sometimes don't even have the interests of their members in mind....
I've already given you a long list of scientists who doubt or disbelieve in man-made global warming.
No list, then? What a surprise. Oh, any evidence for your observation about specific organizations being "bought and paid for"? No?
Super Mutt wrote:
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Continue on with your hysteria.
I can always tell when you find yourself in a corner, because then you resort to the gratuitous insult. Insults work best when they have some connection to reality. You should have tried an age related insult on me, it might have stung.
Canton

Canton, OH

#24687 Jan 27, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Of course you're not a liberal, you're a progressive. We keep forgetting how liberal has been turned into a naughty word the last few years. That's why you changed to Progressive.
The funny thing is that in your own mind, you're right all the time no matter how many links or articles we post to prove you're wrong. You just put the palms of your hands to your ears and sing aloud. You call our articles lies or right-wing. Then later on say how none of us have ever proved you wrong.
That's why I say you are a legend in your own mind.
I said although many call me liar, no one seems to be able to back this up. I have also told you what I think of your oil industry funded Heritage Foundation links you have posted so many times. Also, I'm really not that into politics. I just despise the conniving conservative right wingers.
Canton

Canton, OH

#24688 Jan 27, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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You're a legend in your own mind Canton.
And you are the legend of a lonely climate expert trucker. Driving the highways in his 18 wheeler haunted weather lab.
fred for the people

Fort Wayne, IN

#24689 Jan 27, 2014
Bib

Since: Jan 14

Chillicothe, OH

#24690 Jan 27, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
No list, then? What a surprise. Oh, any evidence for your observation about specific organizations being "bought and paid for"? No?
I told you I wasn't going to bother looking up organizations. There's no point. And yes, of course there's evidence of organizations being bought & paid for. Here's the one I mentioned earlier .....

The AMA: 72 million reasons to help shrink doctors' pay
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/201...

I'm guessing any organization that lobbies for grants and favors must serve its master or be cut off. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
I can always tell when you find yourself in a corner, because then you resort to the gratuitous insult. Insults work best when they have some connection to reality. You should have tried an age related insult on me, it might have stung.
I don't recall ever having tried to insult you. I've actually enjoyed debating with you. I may get a little snarky here and there, but that's just me. I find the global-warming hysteria very annoying, in large part because it's being used to destroy the country. Don't take it personally.

If you ever want to back me into a corner, then get on the right side of an issue. You're not going to do it by continually being wrong.

Since: Jan 14

Chillicothe, OH

#24691 Jan 27, 2014
Canton wrote:
I said although many call me liar, no one seems to be able to back this up.
Another lie.

Since: Jan 14

Chillicothe, OH

#24692 Jan 27, 2014
Old Guy,

What do you make of this?....

EPA may have suppressed a report skeptical of global warming.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/epa-may-have-supp...
Pops

Newport, KY

#24693 Jan 27, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Of course you're not a liberal, you're a progressive. We keep forgetting how liberal has been turned into a naughty word the last few years. That's why you changed to Progressive.
Not different from changing 'raising taxes' to 'revenue enhancement' among other nomenclature 'readjustments' What a propaganda crock of B.S.!!
Just like Obama's current poll ratings being the result of racists even tho he won 2 elections. How's that for racism being his problem?
It can't be his programs, his lack of transparency, his inability to work across party lines, his actions making it all of the way to the Supreme Court, it can't be the short comings if not failure of the ACA, it can't be all of his scandals, it can't be his minions still blaming Bush 5 yrs later, it can't be the failure of shovel ready jobs, it can't be his NOT knowing doo-doo about a thing until the press brought it up, it can't be his playing more golf in less than 1 term than Bush played in 2 terms, etc etc etc. That's right! It MUST be racism.

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