Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#23576 Jan 1, 2014
Pops wrote:
Why do so many people refuse to admit that the WMD's existed? He used them against Iran, he used them against the Kurds & during Desert Shield he threatened to use them again.
The question was, did he have them in 2003, just prior to the invasion. That was why Hans Blix was there, to see if there was any objective evidence of WMD. The Iraq war was based on a flawed premise that there were.

"The United States and the UK asserted that Saddam Hussein still possessed large hidden stockpiles of WMD in 2003, and that he was clandestinely procuring and producing more. Inspections by the UN to resolve the status of unresolved disarmament questions restarted from November 2002 until March 2003,[3] under UN Security Council Resolution 1441, which demanded Saddam give "immediate, unconditional and active cooperation" with UN and IAEA inspections, shortly before his country was attacked.[4]

During the lead-up to war in March 2003, United Nations weapons inspector Hans Blix had found no stockpiles of WMD and had made significant progress toward resolving open issues of disarmament noting the "proactive" but not always "immediate" Iraqi cooperation as called for by UN Security Council Resolution 1441. He concluded that it would take “but months” to resolve the key remaining disarmament tasks.[5] The United States asserted this was a breach of Resolution 1441 but failed to convince the UN Security Council to pass a new resolution authorizing the use of force due to lack of evidence.[6][7][8]

Despite being unable to get a new resolution authorizing force and citing section 3 of the Joint Resolution passed by the U.S. Congress,[9] President George W. Bush asserted peaceful measures could not disarm Iraq of the weapons he alleged it to have and launched a second Gulf War,[10] despite multiple dissenting opinions[11] and questions of integrity[12][13][14] about the underlying intelligence.[15] Later U.S.-led inspections agreed that Iraq had earlier abandoned its WMD programs, but asserted Iraq had an intention to pursue those programs if UN sanctions were ever lifted.[16]

Bush later said that the biggest regret of his presidency was "the intelligence failure" in Iraq,[17] while the Senate Intelligence Committee found in 2008 that his administration "misrepresented the intelligence and the threat from Iraq".[18] A key CIA informant in Iraq admitted that he lied about his allegations, "then watched in shock as it was used to justify the war".[19]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons...
Borock Hussein Obama

United States

#23577 Jan 1, 2014
The best way to take control over a people and control them utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a time, to erode rights by a thousand tiny and almost imperceptible reductions. In this way, the people will not see those rights and freedoms being removed until past the point at which these changes cannot be reversed.
Pops

Newport, KY

#23578 Jan 1, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
The question was, did he have them in 2003, just prior to the invasion. That was why Hans Blix was there, to see if there was any objective evidence of WMD. The Iraq war was based on a flawed premise that there were.
"The United States and the UK asserted that Saddam Hussein still possessed large hidden stockpiles of WMD in 2003, and that he was clandestinely procuring and producing more. Inspections by the UN to resolve the status of unresolved disarmament questions restarted from November 2002 until March 2003,[3] under UN Security Council Resolution 1441, which demanded Saddam give "immediate, unconditional and active cooperation" with UN and IAEA inspections, shortly before his country was attacked.[4]
During the lead-up to war in March 2003, United Nations weapons inspector Hans Blix had found no stockpiles of WMD and had made significant progress toward resolving open issues of disarmament noting the "proactive" but not always "immediate" Iraqi cooperation as called for by UN Security Council Resolution 1441.
I agree but none of which makes my 1st statement incorrect.
Saddam was known for subtrafuge as many aggressors would be. It is a risk that they take. It is an historic tactic.
IF the Japanese had a crystal ball they would NOT have attacked Midway Island, Napoleon would not have met his Waterloo, Hitler would not have broken his treaty with Stalin, Mohamar Quadafi & Saddam would still be alive & even Abraham Lincoln.
Espionage information is NOT an absolute. Interpretation is subjective, not necessarily objective. Just like our court system, there is a "reasonable doubt" issue that is acted on. The speculative details of each issue can be endless. We can forever talk about the "Grassy Knoll" type of issues but It is well past time to move past these things folks other than the lessons that they may teach.
Pops

Newport, KY

#23579 Jan 1, 2014
I could add that Neville Chamberlin gave away part of another country of which he had NO authority to do, in the name of peace with Hitler. Does anyone think that he would have done such a thing IF he had a Crystal Ball so to speak?

Since: Aug 12

United States

#23580 Jan 1, 2014
Here we go 2014..... Better set our alarm clocks for Noon tomorrow because I'm sure Canton, Van Wert and Old Guy have a lot to get done tomarrow.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#23581 Jan 2, 2014
real name barry soetoro wrote:
Sheriff Arpaio´s Posse has disclosed the fact of Obama´s birth certificate an slective service card as being straight forgeries. Problem is that the mainstream media and the WH are keeping all silenced and arfe using their strength and orgaization to silence those who are trying to inform the public. Fortunately, they can´t silence what is going on in the Internet; so, Obama´s days seem to be counted.
That's funny because he had to pay the county the money back that he wasted on the witch hunt that found nothing. He also cost them a pretty penny though on another lawsuit:

blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2013/12...
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#23582 Jan 2, 2014
Borock Hussein Obama wrote:
The best way to take control over a people and control them utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a time, to erode rights by a thousand tiny and almost imperceptible reductions. In this way, the people will not see those rights and freedoms being removed until past the point at which these changes cannot be reversed.
That's a real good description of the GOTP playbook.
UrFreeRideIzOver

Canton, OH

#23583 Jan 2, 2014
UdintBuildThat wrote:
Here we go 2014..... Better set our alarm clocks for Noon tomorrow because I'm sure Canton, Van Wert and Old Guy have a lot to get done tomarrow.
Just stretch out those soft trust fund baby, never worked an honest day in your life hands and tell your parents..."Gimme, gimme". If only all those poor people on welfare would have had the decency to have their parents hand them 400 acres...

You better set your alarm to April, because your free ride is over and it's time for you pay them taxes, lil' trooper. Pay em' real purdy' like.

Now fill up a sink with water, pull the drain plug and as the last bit of water spirals down the drain, I want you to think "Tea Party".
UrFreeRideIzOver

Canton, OH

#23584 Jan 2, 2014
Pops wrote:
I could add that Neville Chamberlin gave away part of another country of which he had NO authority to do, in the name of peace with Hitler. Does anyone think that he would have done such a thing IF he had a Crystal Ball so to speak?
Yah, if only the people who voted for GW Bush twice would have had that same crystal ball...
Republican 101

Van Wert, OH

#23586 Jan 2, 2014
UrFreeRideIzOver wrote:
<quoted text>
Yah, if only the people who voted for GW Bush twice would have had that same crystal ball...
A good Republican ignores facts, and votes according to ancient, mistranslated fairy tales instead.
And if that doesn't work, we'll just blame everything on them thar godless liberals...
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#23587 Jan 2, 2014
UdintBuildThat wrote:
Here we go 2014..... Better set our alarm clocks for Noon tomorrow because I'm sure Canton, Van Wert and Old Guy have a lot to get done tomarrow.
Yep! I'm going to make sure my spell-checker is up-to-date!

Happy New Year to you and yours!
UrFreeRideIzOver

Canton, OH

#23588 Jan 2, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep! I'm going to make sure my spell-checker is up-to-date!
Happy New Year to you and yours!
Gappy Now Yesr!!!
Republican 101

Van Wert, OH

#23589 Jan 2, 2014
Y'all notice how UglydeadBrainTroll hasn't chimed in under one of his multiple blacknames lately? Maybe he's saving his few remaining Borock jokes for tamarraw?!

Since: Dec 13

Akron, OH

#23590 Jan 2, 2014
Republican 101 wrote:
<quoted text>A good Republican ignores facts, and votes according to ancient, mistranslated fairy tales instead.
And if that doesn't work, we'll just blame everything on them thar godless liberals...
Bawhaaaaaaaaa

If you ever give up on tea bagging, get a job and stop whining all the FN time, give me a cupcake.

I'll help you create your own "fairy" tail.(spelling intentional)

I just love you skinny punk homer socialists.
Republican 101

Van Wert, OH

#23591 Jan 2, 2014
Looks like I struck a nerve.

I just love watching illiterate alpha-male wannabe conservative d-bags get smacked around online.

Say it with me, fellow Republicans: "Waaaaaa! I don't wanna pay my taxes. I think I'm special and normal rules shouldn't apply to me!"

Since: Dec 13

Medina, OH

#23592 Jan 2, 2014
Republican 101 wrote:
Looks like I struck a nerve.
I just love watching illiterate alpha-male wannabe conservative d-bags get smacked around online.
Say it with me, fellow Republicans: "Waaaaaa! I don't wanna pay my taxes. I think I'm special and normal rules shouldn't apply to me!"
What the heck are you talking about punk?

Get up off your knees, quit teabagging obama, get and job and pay some taxes already so I can buy me some chicken with my food stamps.

These babies hanging down from my shoulders ain't gonna feed themselves.
Republican 101

Van Wert, OH

#23593 Jan 2, 2014
Looks like Pope Queenie HomoCon is having another one of his homoerotic Topix fantasies again...

Roflmao!!!

Since: Dec 13

Medina, OH

#23595 Jan 2, 2014
Republican 101 wrote:
Looks like Pope Queenie HomoCon is having another one of his homoerotic Topix fantasies again...
Roflmao!!!
Come on white boy, your ongoing "fantasy" with T-Bagging says it all.

Get a job punk, put down that meth pipe, move out of your mama's trailer, quit whining and act like a man.
Pops

Newport, KY

#23596 Jan 2, 2014
UrFreeRideIzOver wrote:
<quoted text>
Yah, if only the people who voted for GW Bush twice would have had that same crystal ball...
Come on Canton. Put the cat o' nine tails away.
Mature & open minded people can agree to disagree as long as one is not talking B.S.. Closed minded people can NOT accept anothers differing opinion. I am sure that you are the former & not the later.
You are simply having your own entertainment at the expense of others, but not my expense.
Pops

Newport, KY

#23597 Jan 2, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
The question was, did he have them in 2003, just prior to the invasion. That was why Hans Blix was there, to see if there was any objective evidence of WMD.
YES

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