Who do you support for Governor in Oh...
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#22356 Nov 25, 2013
Hardcore Conservative wrote:
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Yeah, but in his defense, I think he wanted to be more conservative than he ended up really being. I think to be conservative in this era of big government is like swimming up stream or going against the grain. You are looking at a man that tried to reform Fannie and Freddie 17 times, but each time was blocked and demonized by liberals such as Barney Frank. As we all know, the two GSE's not only played a big role in the collapse of 08' but ended up needing a really big bail out, too. Anyway, either way you cut it, looking at the bottom line, Bush was not a conservative.
Bush was a little self-impressed because of the way he governed in Texas. He did "reach across the aisle" and it worked out for him. But what goes on running a state is different than running a country. I said the same thing about Romney too, and he was hardly a conservative.

Everybody on the right wants to be Reagan II. But Reagan worked with Democrats--not give into them. That's the difference. Reagan wanted to do what was good for the country, not what was good for Reagan. Now we have this joker in the White House where the majority are against him and what he's doing, but he doesn't care because it is all about him and his party, not the country.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#22357 Nov 25, 2013
Hardcore Conservative wrote:
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Yeah, but in his defense, I think he wanted to be more conservative than he ended up really being. I think to be conservative in this era of big government is like swimming up stream or going against the grain. You are looking at a man that tried to reform Fannie and Freddie 17 times, but each time was blocked and demonized by liberals such as Barney Frank. As we all know, the two GSE's not only played a big role in the collapse of 08' but ended up needing a really big bail out, too. Anyway, either way you cut it, looking at the bottom line, Bush was not a conservative.
True but in the end it was all about votes just like it was for Nixon too who increased Social Payments to buy votes and it worked which is one of the reason why Bruce Bartlett and many Conservatives said that G.W. Bush was another Nixon who liked to use Liberal Policies to gain the votes.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#22358 Nov 26, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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Bush was a little self-impressed because of the way he governed in Texas. He did "reach across the aisle" and it worked out for him. But what goes on running a state is different than running a country. I said the same thing about Romney too, and he was hardly a conservative.
Everybody on the right wants to be Reagan II. But Reagan worked with Democrats--not give into them. That's the difference. Reagan wanted to do what was good for the country, not what was good for Reagan. Now we have this joker in the White House where the majority are against him and what he's doing, but he doesn't care because it is all about him and his party, not the country.
Just looking at your lying about the greatness of Reagan, the stock market, Iraq War reasons, crying about the 5 mill canceled plans, when most of were not as worth much more than a roll of toilet paper, deflecting the credit rating blame and the cause of it, the false war on coal, shows your total lack of real reasoning and following along proven facts, like a blind puppet that you accuse everybody else of being. I don't have enough hours to disprove the Fox-Bot excuses and lies that you put on here. Not only that your caveman level brain couldn't process it, along with your constant denials when you are proven wrong.

Oh yeah Mr supposed black belt, what significance does southern Ohio play in the world of karate?
Canton

Canton, OH

#22359 Nov 26, 2013
Hardcore Conservative wrote:
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Actually, there was an Iraqi defector who claimed that Saddam had sent the WMDs up to Syria before we invaded and that most of them were sent by massive convoys of semi trucks. He also gave dates of when this occurred. Our intelligence community corroborated his story, as they had seen the convoys during the same time via satellite.
I can't remember the guys name, but a book was written about him and I read the book many years ago.
Yes, and then there was the guy who claimed he was at Benghazi when the attacks took place and claimed he had stated he had told people numerous times that they needed more security there. Then they found out he was lounging on a beach at the time and what he claimed was all a lie. That is the lengths you people will go to. What you post is just more of the same. Put that in your self righteous pipe and smoke it, little trust fund baby.
Canton

Canton, OH

#22360 Nov 26, 2013
Strange how all the hard working people I know, including Scout Masters, Ministers and a Ranger who fought in Viet Nam are all Democrats. I do have a friend who claims to be a Tea Party member/Republican though. After paying for his college, his rich parents handed him $60 thousand dollars which he spent with nothing to show for it and now lives in what most people would call a shack. His mom still covers most of his bills, despite the fact he is almost 40 and doesn't have a job. There's what you claim, then there's this thing called the real world.
Canton

Canton, OH

#22361 Nov 26, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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I knew this was you Bill Clinton.
And we all know a Timothy McVeigh type when we see one.
Canton

Canton, OH

#22362 Nov 26, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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Nice try, but like Obama Care, it failed.
I asked what did "I" say that was bull ship, not what few in my party has said. I don't speak for everybody in my party no more than you do for yours. I'm not about to ask you why so-and-so said this or that. If I call you out, it's something you said. Now if I bring up what others in your party have said, it's because you stick up for them no matter what.
You claimed that your truck broke down EVERY WEEK due to environmental devices. I claimed you are full of sh1t. Got it?
Canton

Canton, OH

#22363 Nov 26, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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Bush was a little self-impressed because of the way he governed in Texas. He did "reach across the aisle" and it worked out for him. But what goes on running a state is different than running a country. I said the same thing about Romney too, and he was hardly a conservative.
Everybody on the right wants to be Reagan II. But Reagan worked with Democrats--not give into them. That's the difference. Reagan wanted to do what was good for the country, not what was good for Reagan. Now we have this joker in the White House where the majority are against him and what he's doing, but he doesn't care because it is all about him and his party, not the country.
Bush never was elected. He stole both elections and out of the few that actually did vote for him, most did with their Bibles. Oh sweet Democracy.
Not Nac

Cincinnati, OH

#22364 Nov 26, 2013
Canton wrote:
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Or maybe you were in a cave when all of thinking America realized that Tony Blair was in cahoots with Bush. I forget. What does that "B" stand for in the BP company that GW Bush deregulated? You know, right before they destroyed the gulf.
The 'connections' that you see that aren't there are just amazing & entertaining.
There was never any evidence that I'm aware of that Blair was in anyones pocket. AGREEMENT on something is NO proof of collusion.
And the 'B' in BP means nothing either as far as collusion goes. The 'B' could be for Bavarian or Brunei, It means nothing at all since the same regs affected Shell, Exon, Mobile, Texaco etc. YOU are a TROLL & a witless, mean, nonsense one at that.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#22365 Nov 26, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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Nice try, but like Obama Care, it failed.
I asked what did "I" say that was bull ship, not what few in my party has said. I don't speak for everybody in my party no more than you do for yours. I'm not about to ask you why so-and-so said this or that. If I call you out, it's something you said. Now if I bring up what others in your party have said, it's because you stick up for them no matter what.
It's still here so it hasn't failed yet:

www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2...

When the opposition declared that the ACA was going to be "Obama's Waterloo", then of course there wasn't going to be any support. Plus, sensible 'repubs' were under the threat of primary for even voicing support for the law. That said, their are Republican fingerprints all over this law, so they got the best of both worlds. They got to influence it and say they were against it at the same time.

The only difference is, when Democrats don't like who's running the government, they vow to get out the vote in the next election to try to get their candidates in office. GOTP'rs start crying, stamping their feet, and swearing they will shutdown and overthrow the government if it doesn't get what they want.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#22366 Nov 26, 2013
Canton wrote:
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Yes, and then there was the guy who claimed he was at Benghazi when the attacks took place and claimed he had stated he had told people numerous times that they needed more security there. Then they found out he was lounging on a beach at the time and what he claimed was all a lie. That is the lengths you people will go to. What you post is just more of the same. Put that in your self righteous pipe and smoke it, little trust fund baby.
That reminds of the 'latest, greatest, hugest scandal.' The fellow that claimed that the jobs report numbers were fudged right before the election hadn't even worked in the agency since August of 2011. Notice how loud the crickets are chirping about that one.
Canton

Canton, OH

#22367 Nov 26, 2013
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>That reminds of the 'latest, greatest, hugest scandal.' The fellow that claimed that the jobs report numbers were fudged right before the election hadn't even worked in the agency since August of 2011. Notice how loud the crickets are chirping about that one.
As we both know, it is a common GOP practice to keep their opposition constantly trying to answer to false allegations. It does not matter if it is proven later to be crap, because the damage is already done and most Conservatives will cling to it as if it were fact anyway. If you have been paying attention on here, and I know you have, you'll notice every single self-proclaimed Conservative on this forum has changed what they are "outraged" about many times. This tells us that they will grasp at anything and that they are desperate. Considering that almost every absurd claim the Tea Baggers make has been proven to be not just bogus, but nothing short of conniving,(FEMA Death Camps) one has to wonder what the real reasons are why they don't like the first black looking man as president. All this during a time when all the racists in our country have magically vanished off the face of the earth.
Canton

Canton, OH

#22368 Nov 26, 2013
Not Nac wrote:
<quoted text>The 'connections' that you see that aren't there are just amazing & entertaining.
There was never any evidence that I'm aware of that Blair was in anyones pocket. AGREEMENT on something is NO proof of collusion.
And the 'B' in BP means nothing either as far as collusion goes. The 'B' could be for Bavarian or Brunei, It means nothing at all since the same regs affected Shell, Exon, Mobile, Texaco etc. YOU are a TROLL & a witless, mean, nonsense one at that.
Sh1t. Every single thinking person alive knew Bush and Blair were butt buddies back then. The GOP has been getting busted for their obvious love of all things crude oil longer than you have been alive. Go look up what every single Republican Secretary of Interior has been up to when it comes to just how stupid you sound to me right now. Don't mind all the numerous scandals (not like your kind of scandals, real scandals) that the GOP has been busted at when it comes to the energy industry that Bush deregulated. Look up Kempthorn, Watts, Norton...every single one...busted.

When Bush was in office, I was working for Newt Gingrich at the time. Other than sh1tting green and asking your parents for more money, wonder what you base your "facts" on during that time. You just aren't used to having your powdered wig smacked around by someone who saw clearly behind the curtain of what you stand for.
Hardcore Conservative

Sunbury, OH

#22369 Nov 26, 2013
Canton wrote:
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Yes, and then there was the guy who claimed he was at Benghazi when the attacks took place and claimed he had stated he had told people numerous times that they needed more security there. Then they found out he was lounging on a beach at the time and what he claimed was all a lie. That is the lengths you people will go to. What you post is just more of the same. Put that in your self righteous pipe and smoke it, little trust fund baby.
What's your point here?

First off, 4 Americans were killed in these attacks. Also, the Ambassador himself had requested more security and, of course, he is dead. Maybe you will just repeat Hillary and just yell "WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE."

Talk about lies...Maybe you should ask Susan Rice about lies. After all, she blatantly lied about the attacks being over some youtube film. You probably still believe that one, too. Now, talk about great lengths.

You liberal democrats are truly hypocrites and despicable, immoral people and, everyday, you prove it.
Hardcore Conservative

Sunbury, OH

#22370 Nov 26, 2013
Canton wrote:
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Sh1t. Every single thinking person alive knew Bush and Blair were butt buddies back then. The GOP has been getting busted for their obvious love of all things crude oil longer than you have been alive. Go look up what every single Republican Secretary of Interior has been up to when it comes to just how stupid you sound to me right now. Don't mind all the numerous scandals (not like your kind of scandals, real scandals) that the GOP has been busted at when it comes to the energy industry that Bush deregulated. Look up Kempthorn, Watts, Norton...every single one...busted.
When Bush was in office, I was working for Newt Gingrich at the time. Other than sh1tting green and asking your parents for more money, wonder what you base your "facts" on during that time. You just aren't used to having your powdered wig smacked around by someone who saw clearly behind the curtain of what you stand for.
"Real Scandals" ????

Are you really suggesting that the current scandals that this administration is engaged in aren't really scandals at all?
I think that is what you are implying here.

You truly are insane. Please, go get some real help, so you can get back to reality.
Hardcore Conservative

Sunbury, OH

#22371 Nov 26, 2013
Canton wrote:
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As we both know, it is a common GOP practice to keep their opposition constantly trying to answer to false allegations. It does not matter if it is proven later to be crap, because the damage is already done and most Conservatives will cling to it as if it were fact anyway. If you have been paying attention on here, and I know you have, you'll notice every single self-proclaimed Conservative on this forum has changed what they are "outraged" about many times. This tells us that they will grasp at anything and that they are desperate. Considering that almost every absurd claim the Tea Baggers make has been proven to be not just bogus, but nothing short of conniving,(FEMA Death Camps) one has to wonder what the real reasons are why they don't like the first black looking man as president. All this during a time when all the racists in our country have magically vanished off the face of the earth.
"If you have been paying attention on here, and I know you have, you'll notice every single self-proclaimed Conservative on this forum has changed what they are "outraged" about many times. This tells us that they will grasp at anything and that they are desperate."

This is so patently absurd. The fact is that there are so many issues that a normal person should be outraged by that it is almost damn near impossible to choose from. Overwhelmed might be a better word.

FEMA DEATH camps..... like the secret camps that Bush ran, maybe?

Oh, and talk about desperation, towards the end of your rant, you brought up race. Every liberal that is desperate will eventually pull out the race card. The fact is that you are the racist scum.

Oh, and please let's be more specific about these "false" allegations, as I am sure your messiah can do no wrong.
Hardcore Conservative

Sunbury, OH

#22372 Nov 26, 2013
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>It's still here so it hasn't failed yet:
www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2...
When the opposition declared that the ACA was going to be "Obama's Waterloo", then of course there wasn't going to be any support. Plus, sensible 'repubs' were under the threat of primary for even voicing support for the law. That said, their are Republican fingerprints all over this law, so they got the best of both worlds. They got to influence it and say they were against it at the same time.
The only difference is, when Democrats don't like who's running the government, they vow to get out the vote in the next election to try to get their candidates in office. GOTP'rs start crying, stamping their feet, and swearing they will shutdown and overthrow the government if it doesn't get what they want.
Please, just please, tell me how many Republicans voted on the ACA?

The fact is that the democrats get to own this one all by themselves. There will be no one else to blame when the health care system totally collapses.

The thing about liberals is they always have to have someone to blame or demonize.
Pops

Newport, KY

#22373 Nov 26, 2013
Canton wrote:
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Yes, and then there was the guy who claimed he was at Benghazi when the attacks took place and claimed he had stated he had told people numerous times that they needed more security there. Then they found out he was lounging on a beach at the time and what he claimed was all a lie. That is the lengths you people will go to.
And that was reported by CBS. Now it has cost 2 people at least a suspension. The 1st time that I can recall in a very long time that a liberal company punished anyone for such B.S.
I commend them for that, this time.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#22374 Nov 26, 2013
Canton wrote:
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As we both know, it is a common GOP practice to keep their opposition constantly trying to answer to false allegations. It does not matter if it is proven later to be crap, because the damage is already done and most Conservatives will cling to it as if it were fact anyway. If you have been paying attention on here, and I know you have, you'll notice every single self-proclaimed Conservative on this forum has changed what they are "outraged" about many times. This tells us that they will grasp at anything and that they are desperate. Considering that almost every absurd claim the Tea Baggers make has been proven to be not just bogus, but nothing short of conniving,(FEMA Death Camps) one has to wonder what the real reasons are why they don't like the first black looking man as president. All this during a time when all the racists in our country have magically vanished off the face of the earth.
Must be working too.... at least according to surveys. DumBama is being flushed down where he belongs.

Who was more vilified than Bush? Multi-million dollar movies made against him, a million dollar internet site, several books, a video game where the object was to shoot Bush and even a weekly cartoon. And because we oppose a Nanny State Socialist government, it must be because big-ears is black. You are pathetic.

Well there must be a lot of racists in this country because our fathers and grandfathers fought against governments very similar to this one. Little did they suspect that this country would turn into a society of Cradle to Gravers. If they could see into the future, they probably all would have laid down their weapons and just went home.
Pops

Newport, KY

#22375 Nov 26, 2013
Canton wrote:
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As we both know, it is a common GOP practice to keep their opposition constantly trying to answer to false allegations. It does not matter if it is proven later to be crap, because the damage is already done and most Conservatives will cling to it as if it were fact anyway. If you have been paying attention on here, and I know you have, you'll notice every single self-proclaimed Conservative on this forum has changed what they are "outraged" about many times. This tells us that they will grasp at anything and that they are desperate. Considering that almost every absurd claim the Tea Baggers make has been proven to be not just bogus, but nothing short of conniving,(FEMA Death Camps) one has to wonder what the real reasons are why they don't like the first black looking man as president. All this during a time when all the racists in our country have magically vanished off the face of the earth.
It is difficult to know where to start with your diatribe.
Who started the FALSE allegations about Stephens of Alaska that undeniably cost him an election B4 being proven totally false & to have been started by his opponent, a DEM. Who started the B.S. about Herman Cain that went away when he bowed out of the race? A Dem conspiracy.
As far as 'Conservatives' changing what they are 'outraged about' it isn't because of changing what they are outraged about, it is because the list is so long that all of the reasons can't be talked about at once.
Here you go with the racist talk again. How can someone be racist for not voting for a biracial racist liar that keeps issuing 'executive edits'??
Generally It's his arrogance & damaging policies that were voted against, it was his color that was voted for.
HE & his minions have NEVER called him an African-American or a Black-American, only Black, like you just have called him for the hundredth time. WHY? Because he doesn't feel American, he feels omnipotent.

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