“Queen of my domain”

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#46 Mar 18, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>You have to see the place to believe it. When the story broke, the location didn't surprise me a bit.
I've stopped in Steubenville on my way to a camping site, along Route 7. I've been terrified, literally. There's some absolutely stunning places there, lots of peace and quiet and solitude for nature loving folks like us who like to camp and hike, but the inhabitants....OH. MY. GOD. The only claim to fame besides the football team is that it's Dean Martin's birthplace. And they have flags all along their lampposts that remind you of that.

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#47 Mar 18, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
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Boom, neither sets of parents were "normal." Trying hard not to skate the line of blaming the victim, but a 16 year old girl at drinking parties out of West Virginia into another state seems to have had a few problems in the parental unit department as well. I do agree there.
Problem with bringing that thought into this discussion is that it removes the focus away from "rape IS rape." Period. That seemed to be an issue with these boys. They didn't seem to think it wasn't rape because well, she didn't complain. She was passed out in her own puke.
That town giving those kids free reign to do as they pleased totally disgusted me, and what really goaded me was the fact they felt "victimized" because these kids got busted committing rape.
It goes beyond the rape and includes their behavior and the people around them after.

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

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#48 Mar 18, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Nothing male of any species is likely to have any prurient interest in you, Reader.
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/3...

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

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Hilliard, OH

#49 Mar 18, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
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Nothing wrong with working there, but plenty wrong with thinking that the Chinamen won't throw you out of work thanks to the unions.
No, nothing work with working there, but plenty wrong with telling kids that's all they're worth and not wanting better for them.
Those places are examples of white tribalism. And class structure is a huge part of it. I know of one kid from that area who went to college majoring in industrial engineering and hoped to return to work at the mill his father worked at. He was sneered at as a "future mill boss." That's how a lot of these idiots think.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

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#50 Mar 18, 2013

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#51 Mar 18, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
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I've stopped in Steubenville on my way to a camping site, along Route 7. I've been terrified, literally. There's some absolutely stunning places there, lots of peace and quiet and solitude for nature loving folks like us who like to camp and hike, but the inhabitants....OH. MY. GOD. The only claim to fame besides the football team is that it's Dean Martin's birthplace. And they have flags all along their lampposts that remind you of that.
Head out off 7 to Rt.22 to Cadiz. They do the same over Clark Gable.
Ugh...Rt. 7 is a pit... Bridgeport, Martin's Ferry, Brilliant. Stratton...all the way up to East Liverpool is ugly.

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#53 Mar 18, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
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Don't know regarding the charging parents. State law here could support that. Parents have been charged before, but it's generally a minor offense per ORC:
Ohio Revised Code 4301.69. Penalty section is ORC 4301.99. The penalty is a fine of no less than $500 and no more than $1,000, and not more than six months in jail.
This case really turned my stomach. I know I'll get flamed for this, but some parents really need to not only have their heads examined, but ought to be examined for fitness to parent if they can't stand up to their kids and tell them "no, you are NOT going to go drinking as a teenager" and can't teach them to respect for others. Simply because they had state champ football team? Puhleease.
Oh, it sickens me. They should have been charged as adults and gone to a state prison where the lifers would have made their every minute he11.

I say, in this case, charge everyone they can and give them the max.

Maybe the victim can sue civilly the papty responsible for minors having alcohol; and whoever owns the property where the rape occured. As you can see, I don't know too much about this case.

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

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#54 Mar 18, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>No, nothing work with working there, but plenty wrong with telling kids that's all they're worth and not wanting better for them.
Those places are examples of white tribalism. And class structure is a huge part of it. I know of one kid from that area who went to college majoring in industrial engineering and hoped to return to work at the mill his father worked at. He was sneered at as a "future mill boss." That's how a lot of these idiots think.
I agree with the first part.

There are problems with tribalism, when it leads to people hating virtually any advancement, but there is the intangible benefits of the social capital, but they ran out of that years ago down there.

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#55 Mar 18, 2013
Seriouslady wrote:
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It goes beyond the rape and includes their behavior and the people around them after.
Exactly.

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#56 Mar 18, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
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Can they be charged for having the party even though they were not present/did not know?
I AM NOT A LAWYER, but my inclination would be yes, if it occured on their property, with or without their knowledge, the are liable for injuries and civilly responsible. They most likely, unless they are just complete hiljacks, have a rider on their homeowners policy.(Is it hiljack or hilljack?)

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

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#57 Mar 18, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
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I agree with the first part.
There are problems with tribalism, when it leads to people hating virtually any advancement, but there is the intangible benefits of the social capital, but they ran out of that years ago down there.
Sure, tribalism works if you're on Beacon Hill or in NW DC, but it never works in the ghetto, and that's exactly what Steubenville is.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#58 Mar 18, 2013
Seriouslady wrote:
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I AM NOT A LAWYER, but my inclination would be yes, if it occured on their property, with or without their knowledge, the are liable for injuries and civilly responsible. They most likely, unless they are just complete hiljacks, have a rider on their homeowners policy.(Is it hiljack or hilljack?)
Insurance? I can only imagine the rates there even if some of them have the brains to consider it. The crime rate is off the charts. 30% greater violent crime and 82% greater property crime than the Ohio average.
http://www.cityrating.com/crime-statistics/oh...

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#59 Mar 18, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Sure, tribalism works if you're on Beacon Hill or in NW DC, but it never works in the ghetto, and that's exactly what Steubenville is.
A hill version of Southie.

I shudder if "Lou Gentile" moves up...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_Gentile

“Queen of my domain”

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#60 Mar 18, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Head out off 7 to Rt.22 to Cadiz. They do the same over Clark Gable.
Ugh...Rt. 7 is a pit... Bridgeport, Martin's Ferry, Brilliant. Stratton...all the way up to East Liverpool is ugly.
4

Yep. A lot of those towns along the Ohio River, same way. Dealt with a lot of those schools when my kids were in band. Either via their school hosting a competition or visiting. Both were often unpleasant experiences with some of those school districts. Kids who would not follow simple directions, would be destruction, troll for fights, etc.

The countryside north of Steubenville along the river is absolutely stunning, and there is no civilization outside of those towns. Thankfully. Other than a few Amish folks we buy firewood from LOL.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#61 Mar 18, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
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A hill version of Southie.
I shudder if "Lou Gentile" moves up...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_Gentile
That is a walking caricature if there ever was one. He's got everything a Steubenville hack needs.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#62 Mar 18, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
<quoted text>4
Yep. A lot of those towns along the Ohio River, same way. Dealt with a lot of those schools when my kids were in band. Either via their school hosting a competition or visiting. Both were often unpleasant experiences with some of those school districts. Kids who would not follow simple directions, would be destruction, troll for fights, etc.
The countryside north of Steubenville along the river is absolutely stunning, and there is no civilization outside of those towns. Thankfully. Other than a few Amish folks we buy firewood from LOL.
Wellll...Wu Tang Clan had a compound out in some of those woods:

Remembering the Wu-Tang era
I remember the 'Wu-Tang era' for completely different reasons than most, though. Before 36 Chambers came out and anyone knew who the hell Wu-Tang was, they were creating absolute havoc in my hometown.

I was born, raised, and went through high school in a small Ohio town named Steubenville. When I say small, I'm talking about under 20,000 people. It is about 25 minutes from downtown Pittsburgh, under two hours from Cleveland, and under three hours from Columbus. So, while it is a relatively little city, it is sort of in the middle of a lot of 'big' cities (relatively speaking).

In the late-80s and early-90s, our city (like just about every other urban area in the country) was introduced to crack and serious gang crime. The leaders of Steubenville's drug cartel were a group of guys that referred to themselves as the Godz. Violence was out-of-control for a city our size. There were literally shootings every night.

Packs of guys from New York were also showing up every night and waring with the local 'home grown' gangsters (this was a tough town before they showed up).

I had friends that my older brother went all through school with getting shot and killed on a regular basis. One fight, in particular, that was widely talked about at the time was when Ghostface, ODB, and a lesser known affiliate of the Godz jumped a guy that was on lunch break during school hours because he was a black guy with a white girlfriend.

Little did they know, the guy they were jumping was an All-State football player and took third in Ohio as a heavyweight wrestler. He proceeded to beat the hell out of all three of them. The event was witnessed by about half of my high school and is still talked about regularly today.

When 36 Chambers was released, Steubenville pretty much went into a state of shock. These guys that had been reeking havoc on our city were suddenly the biggest things in the f#cking music industry... Who knew?

RZA grew up in Steubenville, so it is no coincidence that they picked this city to attempt to take over, but it still is pretty amazing looking back. The last real incident with the Godz (ie Wu-Tang) was when one of their producers -- Wise God Allah -- was shot dead in downtown Steubenville in the mid-90s, riddled with bullets. He was shot many times by multiple people, one of which I knew well (his name is Keith West and he just got out of jail a couple of years ago).

There were retaliations and another guy that I knew well was shot dead outside of his house (Spanky Ware). A few months later, several members of the Wu-Tang Clan were pulled over in Steubenville (RZA, Ghost, and several others) with a car full of guns. They got a slap on the wrist and that is really the last that we heard of them, crime-wise.
http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.p...

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#63 Mar 18, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>That is a walking caricature if there ever was one. He's got everything a Steubenville hack needs.
Swap some words and you sound just like Howie Carr.

See the takedown of "Gabriel Gomez NAVY SEAL" ?

More RINO than Chafee, problem is that the other two is an ATF director and the other a DREAM ACT supporter.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#66 Mar 18, 2013
The hip-hop group Wu-Tang Clan - which made headlines a week ago when a founder, Ol' Dirty Bastard, was charged with shooting at cops - is the target of a federal gun-running probe, The Post has learned.

City police and federal law-enforcement sources said at least two members of the world-famous group are involved in a crime ring linking Staten Island to the small town of Steubenville, Ohio.

"These guys have all the money in the world, yet they're stupid enough to get caught up in this," said an NYPD source familiar with the investigation.

Officials said the band - which formed in the projects of Staten Island - is suspected of hiring friends to buy weapons in Ohio and bring them back to New York.

"Their friends are buying high-powered firearms, high quality," said one source involved in the investigation. "We believe [Wu-Tang Clan] is having them bought for protection, for their friends, and to sell."

A manager of the nine-member group, Walter Free, 30, has already been busted on federal gun charges stemming from the yearlong probe.

Last August, Free was charged in a Stuyvesant Town assault and found to be carrying a semi-automatic pistol later traced to Steubenville, a steel town with a population of around 22,000.

The town is near a rural compound where the band regularly goes to practice firing at targets for entertainment, sources say.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/item_O9sRDjLu88H...

“Queen of my domain”

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#67 Mar 18, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Wellll...Wu Tang Clan had a compound out in some of those woods:
Remembering the Wu-Tang era
I remember the 'Wu-Tang era' for completely different reasons than most, though. Before 36 Chambers came out and anyone knew who the hell Wu-Tang was, they were creating absolute havoc in my hometown.
I was born, raised, and went through high school in a small Ohio town named Steubenville. When I say small, I'm talking about under 20,000 people. It is about 25 minutes from downtown Pittsburgh, under two hours from Cleveland, and under three hours from Columbus. So, while it is a relatively little city, it is sort of in the middle of a lot of 'big' cities (relatively speaking).
In the late-80s and early-90s, our city (like just about every other urban area in the country) was introduced to crack and serious gang crime. The leaders of Steubenville's drug cartel were a group of guys that referred to themselves as the Godz. Violence was out-of-control for a city our size. There were literally shootings every night.
Packs of guys from New York were also showing up every night and waring with the local 'home grown' gangsters (this was a tough town before they showed up).
I had friends that my older brother went all through school with getting shot and killed on a regular basis. One fight, in particular, that was widely talked about at the time was when Ghostface, ODB, and a lesser known affiliate of the Godz jumped a guy that was on lunch break during school hours because he was a black guy with a white girlfriend.
Little did they know, the guy they were jumping was an All-State football player and took third in Ohio as a heavyweight wrestler. He proceeded to beat the hell out of all three of them. The event was witnessed by about half of my high school and is still talked about regularly today.
When 36 Chambers was released, Steubenville pretty much went into a state of shock. These guys that had been reeking havoc on our city were suddenly the biggest things in the f#cking music industry... Who knew?
RZA grew up in Steubenville, so it is no coincidence that they picked this city to attempt to take over, but it still is pretty amazing looking back. The last real incident with the Godz (ie Wu-Tang) was when one of their producers -- Wise God Allah -- was shot dead in downtown Steubenville in the mid-90s, riddled with bullets. He was shot many times by multiple people, one of which I knew well (his name is Keith West and he just got out of jail a couple of years ago).
There were retaliations and another guy that I knew well was shot dead outside of his house (Spanky Ware). A few months later, several members of the Wu-Tang Clan were pulled over in Steubenville (RZA, Ghost, and several others) with a car full of guns. They got a slap on the wrist and that is really the last that we heard of them, crime-wise.
http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.p...
Crimany!!!

Thanks for making me thank my lucky stars we didn't catch up in any of that!! All for a weekend of hiking, camping, and beer--I can find other places. Thankfully, it's a group of about 8-10 of us who do this as a somewhat semi-regular type of reunion -- we all live in Ohio, PA, Niagara, or Buffalo, so it was a sort of central area. A bunch of suburbanites mixing with cracked up hilljacks probably wouldn't end well...

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#68 Mar 18, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
<quoted text>
Swap some words and you sound just like Howie Carr.
See the takedown of "Gabriel Gomez NAVY SEAL" ?
More RINO than Chafee, problem is that the other two is an ATF director and the other a DREAM ACT supporter.
You gotta remember, I've been reading Howie since I was in college. "Hack" is a favorite Boston word. And not for a cab.

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