Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#494 Mar 24, 2013
Catman Dave wrote:
<quoted text>just a tiny one.
"Keep comin back, Dave. Keep comin back."

woof

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#495 Mar 24, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's examine that issue closely, since that seems to be the one that has you and your cohorts breathing fire.
Che claims to have been working at an un-named place of business in the legal field in Cleveland several years ago. Che claims to have had access at that time to documents indicating that Bishop Pilla approved "hush money" payments on behalf of the Cleveland diocese to the family of a child who was sexually abused by a priest working for the diocese. Che also claims to have personally witnessed Pilla breaking down during a meeting with his attorneys concerning the litigation of claims involving sexual abuse.
The appellate opinion from the Ohio 8th district court of Appeals and the numerous news reports readily available online regarding the Kodger's two separate lawsuits make it quite clear to any reasonable person that what Che alleged to have personally witnessed did indeed occur, particularly the fact that medical records documenting the cash payments were in fact distributed among employees of the law firm representing the diocese. That particular issue is very well documented, and undeniable.
Yet for some reason, you and your cohorts demand more evidence, as if you expect Che to post a link to a pdf of the documents themselves, because you're either too stupid or to proud to acknowledge what is right there in front of you, in black and white.
Its either that, or its simple denial based upon your desire to protect the Church...the exact same defective thinking that got the Church in trouble in the first place.
That's what is going on here Paco...and you know it.
woof
I stand by my post. Given Che's attitude, immaturity, posting history and vile outbursts, I, and most others here, have a very difficult time believing anything she posts. Even you distance yourself from her at times.
I agree everything you've presented about the settlements is most likely the truth. I am not convinced, even remotely, that Che had any special insight or exposure to it. And that is the basis of the entire argument.

“Cats rule.”

Since: Dec 09

Chardon Ohio.

#496 Mar 24, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
"Keep comin back, Dave. Keep comin back."
woof
Yesterday was fun.I must have watched 5 movies.Looks like we got more snow coming.So much for spring.
Paralegal

Columbus, OH

#497 Mar 24, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>I stand by my post. Given Che's attitude, immaturity, posting history and vile outbursts, I, and most others here, have a very difficult time believing anything she posts. Even you distance yourself from her at times.
I agree everything you've presented about the settlements is most likely the truth. I am not convinced, even remotely, that Che had any special insight or exposure to it. And that is the basis of the entire argument.
Seems like a rather stupid argument. Or diversion, rather. And one that you asked for by challenging Che's knowledge of such things to begin with. Che provided the information on how he knew about hush money when someone asked him how he knew. A diversion--considering how well-known the overall situation in the church is.

Rather than debate the issues, you chose to debate personalities.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#498 Mar 24, 2013
Catman Dave wrote:
<quoted text>Yesterday was fun.I must have watched 5 movies.Looks like we got more snow coming.So much for spring.
Get to the liquor store before you get snowed in.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#499 Mar 24, 2013
Paralegal wrote:
<quoted text>
Seems like a rather stupid argument. Or diversion, rather. And one that you asked for by challenging Che's knowledge of such things to begin with. Che provided the information on how he knew about hush money when someone asked him how he knew. A diversion--considering how well-known the overall situation in the church is.
Rather than debate the issues, you chose to debate personalities.
Che is a woman who has proven herself suspect by her posting history. I'm hardly the only one who thinks that way about her.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#500 Mar 24, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>I stand by my post. Given Che's attitude, immaturity, posting history and vile outbursts, I, and most others here, have a very difficult time believing anything she posts. Even you distance yourself from her at times.
I agree everything you've presented about the settlements is most likely the truth. I am not convinced, even remotely, that Che had any special insight or exposure to it. And that is the basis of the entire argument.
Let's not forget how this whole discussion started.

I insulted George on his claimed knowledge of the hearsay rules. He replied,
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Kind of like you on priests who molest, huh?
I pointed out that it wasn't the same, since I actually possessed knowledge about priests who molest.
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
No, because I know a few things about priests who molest.
Gokeefe decided to chime in, with her usual grace and class, by asking if I was a defrocked gay priest,
gokeefe wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, so we have a defrocked, angry, gay priest onboard here?
Not content to let it go, Gokeefe continued,
gokeefe wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
Ok, little boy? Is this how you know a few things about priests who molest?
SL added her two cents as well. Since you were all so desperate to know what my knowledge was about the corruption and organized crime in the Catholic Church, I shared it. You asked, I told you. Now you cry about what you heard. Whether you believe it or not means nothing to me.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#501 Mar 24, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Che is a woman who has proven herself suspect by her posting history. I'm hardly the only one who thinks that way about her.
Why are you so obsessed about my gender? It is really odd. Especially since you are wrong.

“Cats rule.”

Since: Dec 09

Chardon Ohio.

#502 Mar 24, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Get to the liquor store before you get snowed in.
From what they are saying,I'm not going to get too much,but everything south of me is supposed to get up to a foot.St Louis is getting hammered right now.If you go to trafficland.com you can see it live.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#503 Mar 24, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you so obsessed about my gender? It is really odd. Especially since you are wrong.
You're greatly disturbed by my bringing it up...that's the real obsession we see here.
And no, I'm not wrong. Men don't post like you. Not even gays like Johnson.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#504 Mar 24, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>You're greatly disturbed by my bringing it up...that's the real obsession we see here.
And no, I'm not wrong. Men don't post like you. Not even gays like Johnson.
Not disturbed. Mildly intrigued. But I won't mention it again. Now that I know that you know more about my gender than I do, I'm satisfied.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#505 Mar 24, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Not disturbed. Mildly intrigued. But I won't mention it again. Now that I know that you know more about my gender than I do, I'm satisfied.
You'll cry about it again. You're too easy.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#506 Mar 24, 2013
Paralegal wrote:
<quoted text>
Seems like a rather stupid argument. Or diversion, rather. And one that you asked for by challenging Che's knowledge of such things to begin with. Che provided the information on how he knew about hush money when someone asked him how he knew. A diversion--considering how well-known the overall situation in the church is.
Rather than debate the issues, you chose to debate personalities.
And there you have, in one small paragraph, a very good description of what regularly is emitted from the keyboards of many who frequent this website.

To hell with the facts.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#507 Mar 24, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>You're greatly disturbed by my bringing it up...that's the real obsession we see here.
And no, I'm not wrong. Men don't post like you. Not even gays like Johnson.
A good six or eight months ago Che addressed his gender. You all ignored it hopped on the wrong train anyway.

woof

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#508 Mar 24, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
A good six or eight months ago Che addressed his gender. You all ignored it hopped on the wrong train anyway.
woof
She obviously didn't address it with enough evidence convince us otherwise.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#509 Mar 24, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
If you would read a little closer, you would know that I said neither of those two things about you. I said you don't understand what you read, and it cause you to jump to inaccurate conclusions.
You do it frequently.
woof
Your post 475. Last sentence written by you referring to me:

"you are insufferably stupid."

How much clearer could you be? If I don't agree with you, I'm stupid. That's what it boils down to.

You think I have a comprehension or memory problem, Duke? You wrote that today.

My conclusions are inaccurate when they collide with yours, or what you are purporting. Stop it. Get off the defensive and communicate.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#510 Mar 24, 2013
I will tell a brief story to indicate why this issue riles me so, just for you Paco.

I think I told you before what I do for a living. My work occasionally brings me in direct contact with people who have molested children and have either been convicted of it, or charged with it, or been alleged to have done it, and have not yet been criminally charged.

I had the pleasure of sitting in the home of one of these individuals and speaking with he and his wife for over an hour last week. All of the children who were previously living in their home were removed over a year ago, and they want their two biological kids returned to their custody. I had the pleasure of looking this gentleman in the eye, staring him down like the vermin he is, and telling him exactly why I will NEVER recommend to the court that that occur. He had his adult niece recording our entire conversation with her cell phone, although he probably doesn't know that I knew it within the first ten minutes.

I wanted to choke his throat and watch him take his last breath of air right there in front of his wife, who still doesn't believe he did it, because she doesn't have the cognitive ability to understand the overwhelming evidence that exists.

So when I hear people like you, and keefe, and SL talk as if what the Church did to thousands of victims did not really occur, despite mountains of evidence that it indeed did, I get a little angry.

Ok...I now return this thread to its original subject matter.

Carry on.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#511 Mar 24, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>She obviously didn't address it with enough evidence convince us otherwise.
I don't know him. If you're concerned about it, flip him your e-mail address and have him send a pic of his genitals.

woof

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#512 Mar 24, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
I will tell a brief story to indicate why this issue riles me so, just for you Paco.
I think I told you before what I do for a living. My work occasionally brings me in direct contact with people who have molested children and have either been convicted of it, or charged with it, or been alleged to have done it, and have not yet been criminally charged.
I had the pleasure of sitting in the home of one of these individuals and speaking with he and his wife for over an hour last week. All of the children who were previously living in their home were removed over a year ago, and they want their two biological kids returned to their custody. I had the pleasure of looking this gentleman in the eye, staring him down like the vermin he is, and telling him exactly why I will NEVER recommend to the court that that occur. He had his adult niece recording our entire conversation with her cell phone, although he probably doesn't know that I knew it within the first ten minutes.
I wanted to choke his throat and watch him take his last breath of air right there in front of his wife, who still doesn't believe he did it, because she doesn't have the cognitive ability to understand the overwhelming evidence that exists.
So when I hear people like you, and keefe, and SL talk as if what the Church did to thousands of victims did not really occur, despite mountains of evidence that it indeed did, I get a little angry.
Ok...I now return this thread to its original subject matter.
Carry on.
woof
My wife's family includes a couple of
firefighter/paramedics. They have an unwritten rule called, "Rule One." You would benefit from it.
We will not allow your personal experiences to speak for the history of behavior of a worldwide Church's 2000 years of history and works. We're called the faithful for a reason...we don't frighten or bend to the times and the storms the Church encounters.
You can't separate your emotions from your work. That makes you dangerous, and frankly, should disqualify you from any involvement.
You're no better than the racists of the 1950s.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#513 Mar 24, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know him. If you're concerned about it, flip him your e-mail address and have him send a pic of his genitals.
woof
I don't deal with the common practices of the average Democrat.

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