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“Queen of my domain”

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#330 Mar 22, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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What are you waiting for, a copy of the canceled check? You are insane.
Not necessarily. You have to trace the money somehow or find an instrument that states or supports the theory $X was paid by the diocese of Cleveland to a specific person for a specific reason. This doesn't do it. An appeals document isn't evidence of wrongdoing on part of the diocese.

Me insane? Nope. Just understand you can't make assertions of guilt without some type of credible evidence and make those assertions stick.

No charge. I don't claim to be a lawyer, never wanted to be a lawyer, I'm just pretty good a sniffing out sheet. Che, you're just full of it, and can't admit when you're outright full it. Go ahead, try it. It just might make you a better person in the long run.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#332 Mar 22, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Paco, I'm not the only one who adjust his or her hourly rates according to the likelihood that a prospective client is going to be difficult.
I imagine you get high balled wherever you go.
woof
I would charge a premium just for having to explain to him every 15 minutes that his case didn't have 2d amendment implications.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#333 Mar 22, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Paco, I'm not the only one who adjust his or her hourly rates according to the likelihood that a prospective client is going to be difficult.
I imagine you get high balled wherever you go.
woof
Hardly. I've paid the same rate from the start with the same attorney I've had for 13 years.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#334 Mar 22, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
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Not necessarily. You have to trace the money somehow or find an instrument that states or supports the theory $X was paid by the diocese of Cleveland to a specific person for a specific reason. This doesn't do it. An appeals document isn't evidence of wrongdoing on part of the diocese.
Me insane? Nope. Just understand you can't make assertions of guilt without some type of credible evidence and make those assertions stick.
No charge. I don't claim to be a lawyer, never wanted to be a lawyer, I'm just pretty good a sniffing out sheet. Che, you're just full of it, and can't admit when you're outright full it. Go ahead, try it. It just might make you a better person in the long run.
Not even Bishop Pilla's admissions are enough for you. Should we ask Pope Francis about it? Carumba.

“Queen of my domain”

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#335 Mar 22, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Open the links in post 296 and read.
woof
I did, and it's apparent we don't agree.

“Queen of my domain”

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#336 Mar 22, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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I would charge a premium just for having to explain to him every 15 minutes that his case didn't have 2d amendment implications.
I'd find a licensed lawyer instead of you.

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#337 Mar 22, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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My rate is based upon a formula involving four or five variables:
venue and type of case, a client's ability to pay, the degree of my sympathy for their cause, and my initial judgment of their propensity for being difficult.
Paco would be able to afford an initial one hour consultation, after which I would be drinking heavily with the three hundred dollars he just gave me and never answering another call when I saw his number pop up on my phone.
Despite our differences, Bubba would be charged about 100 an hour, and he and I would probably go to the local tavern to hash them out once in a while with a knitting needle duel.
Kids and parents with no money get the going rate paid by the state.
Rogue priests with rouge faces....naaaah.
woof
Oh, yes. You're a true proffessional. By the way, tell your imagined clients not to discuss your fees should they ever recommend you. Which I doubt.

How much do you make an hour while on Topix?
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#338 Mar 22, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
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Not necessarily. You have to trace the money somehow or find an instrument that states or supports the theory $X was paid by the diocese of Cleveland to a specific person for a specific reason. This doesn't do it. An appeals document isn't evidence of wrongdoing on part of the diocese.
Me insane? Nope. Just understand you can't make assertions of guilt without some type of credible evidence and make those assertions stick.
No charge. I don't claim to be a lawyer, never wanted to be a lawyer, I'm just pretty good a sniffing out sheet. Che, you're just full of it, and can't admit when you're outright full it. Go ahead, try it. It just might make you a better person in the long run.
Did you even bother to read this?

http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news3/20...

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#339 Mar 22, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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I would charge a premium just for having to explain to him every 15 minutes that his case didn't have 2d amendment implications.
My divorce case did, at least to my way of thinking.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#340 Mar 22, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Not even Bishop Pilla's admissions are enough for you. Should we ask Pope Francis about it? Carumba.
As an Argentine I don't think he's qualified to comment. He would happily hit you with some holy water, though.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#341 Mar 22, 2013
Seriouslady wrote:
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Oh, yes. You're a true proffessional. By the way, tell your imagined clients not to discuss your fees should they ever recommend you. Which I doubt.
How much do you make an hour while on Topix?
Depends whether I'm working simultaneously.

woof
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#342 Mar 22, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>My divorce case did, at least to my way of thinking.
Exactly.

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#343 Mar 22, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
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Not necessarily. You have to trace the money somehow or find an instrument that states or supports the theory $X was paid by the diocese of Cleveland to a specific person for a specific reason. This doesn't do it. An appeals document isn't evidence of wrongdoing on part of the diocese.
Me insane? Nope. Just understand you can't make assertions of guilt without some type of credible evidence and make those assertions stick.
No charge. I don't claim to be a lawyer, never wanted to be a lawyer, I'm just pretty good a sniffing out sheet. Che, you're just full of it, and can't admit when you're outright full it. Go ahead, try it. It just might make you a better person in the long run.
You're making way too much sense for this conversation, keefer.

An appeals document is nothing but a filing wherein a plaintiff/defendant makes any claim they want to to warrent an appeal or vacate a conviction. It's not evidence. Not evidence.

As for moving money, it can be done without much effort and be untracable.

“Queen of my domain”

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#344 Mar 22, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Did you even bother to read this?
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news3/20...
Yes. Snore. Nothing new. It's all well known that millions, if not billions, have been paid out via civil lawsuits.

You also realize that Pilla was presiding over a diocese that had implications of financial misconduct at the same time? That those funds may not have been "hush money?" There were charges of fraud leveled against one of the financial officers -- Joseph Smith-- of the diocese. Smith landed in the Columbus diocese.

Seriously, Che, you try too hard to fail so often. Remedial school may help cut the dense factor.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#345 Mar 22, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Exactly.
Nobody without a criminal record and no domestic history should have to surrender their firearms no matter how sort the period may be.
Once the temporary orders were in place, she couldn't wait to claim one of the handguns. That was fine by me, but there was no need for the hassle in the first place.

“Queen of my domain”

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#346 Mar 22, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>My divorce case did, at least to my way of thinking.
Nah. Just because I can own doesn't mean I should've killed during mine. He wasn't worth spending a lifetime with a butch roomie and baloney sandwiches and smokes as currency. They aren't worth it, Georgie...

“Queen of my domain”

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#347 Mar 22, 2013
Seriouslady wrote:
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You're making way too much sense for this conversation, keefer.
An appeals document is nothing but a filing wherein a plaintiff/defendant makes any claim they want to to warrent an appeal or vacate a conviction. It's not evidence. Not evidence.
As for moving money, it can be done without much effort and be untracable.
Do I get a big AMEN from the choir!

Exactly. There were charges of fraud against financial officers of the diocese at the time as well. I will admit, I'm not familiar with what happened in Cleveland, much more understanding of what happened in Toledo. But a lot of these cases, it was damn hard to prove there were "hush" payments--do you think someone who wants to hide something is going to document it? Monies paid out due to lawsuit settlements, another matter entirely!
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#348 Mar 22, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
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I did, and it's apparent we don't agree.
A) Church pays family $45,000 to deter filing of lawsuit alleging sexual abuse of their son. Family understands terms of agreement to include perp priest never wearing vestments again.

B) Family learns months later that perp is about to wear vestments again.

C) Family threatens to expose perp priest publicly, and does.

D) Church retaliates for family's refusal to remain silent.

E) Church threatens family, makes false allegations.

F) Family files lawsuit alleging sexual abuse.

Let me ask you this:

When someone offers a cop or a building inspector or a politician money, services, or goods in exchange for influence or favors, do they say "Here Fred. Take this "bribe". I am hereby "bribing" you with this new car. In exchange for this new car, I expect you to "hush up" about my prostitution business in the back room"?

Do you expect that they would then memorialize their agreement in front of a notary at the bank and record it down at the courthouse?

woof
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#349 Mar 22, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
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Yes. Snore. Nothing new. It's all well known that millions, if not billions, have been paid out via civil lawsuits.
You also realize that Pilla was presiding over a diocese that had implications of financial misconduct at the same time? That those funds may not have been "hush money?" There were charges of fraud leveled against one of the financial officers -- Joseph Smith-- of the diocese. Smith landed in the Columbus diocese.
Seriously, Che, you try too hard to fail so often. Remedial school may help cut the dense factor.
Let's get this straight. You acknowledge that the diocese paid the Kodger family in excess of $40000 to settle the abuse claim involving their son. Yet you dispute that it was designed to keep them from talking about the abuse because the Bishop was accused in a financial misconduct scheme. That discredits not the diocese but the family of the abused child. Got it.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#350 Mar 22, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
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Nah. Just because I can own doesn't mean I should've killed during mine. He wasn't worth spending a lifetime with a butch roomie and baloney sandwiches and smokes as currency. They aren't worth it, Georgie...
Agreed. My dad told me when I was in high school that no woman was worth going to jail over out of anger.

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