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Health reform also overhauls student loans

There are 20 comments on the DispatchPolitics story from Mar 31, 2010, titled Health reform also overhauls student loans. In it, DispatchPolitics reports that:

President Barack Obama signed into law the last piece of his mammoth plan to overhaul health care yesterday and, with the same pen strokes, achieved a dramatic and far-reaching change in the way most Americans help pay the cost of a college education.

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Neocon Without a Party

Saint Louis, MO

#1 Mar 31, 2010
An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never
failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class.
That class had insisted that Obama's socialism worked, and that no one would
be poor and no one would be rich --- a great equalizer. The professor then said,
"OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama's plan". All grades would
be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade, so no one would fail
and no one would receive an A. After the first test, the grades were averaged
and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset, and the
students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the
students who studied little had studied even less, and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too, so they studied little.
The second test average was a D! No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F. The scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings, and no one would study for the
benefit of anyone else. All failed, to their great surprise, and the professor told
them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great,
the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no
one will try or want to succeed.

Obama's vision of success.
the truth

Newark, OH

#2 Mar 31, 2010
Obama is now your mama, he wants you to be a child until 27 and live off of Mama and Papa, the nany state of Marx. Time to vote the dems out and impeach Obama. Start a test to see if peopl eknow the costitution and if they don't they can't vote, this would stop the down fall of the USA imn the future.

Since: Jul 09

Marion

#3 Mar 31, 2010
My biggest pet peeve..Pell Grants.

I have no hard numbers, but in my experience (both personal and business) most people that receive the Pell Grant never obtain a degree. Heck, most just go to school so they do not have to work.

This also effects those that work and try to take classes. Our local colleges used to be known for catering to the working adult who needed classes later in the day. The people I speak of above only want to take classes earlier in the day. So what has that done? The local colleges now only offer a few classes at night, but more or less push students to the morning classes and shut down the night classes.

And since Pell grants, loans and scholarships don't count as income for government assistance programs, they are living the easy life. Oh, and Obama wants to let people only pay a portion of their school loan and then let them off after 20 years to boot.
liberated

Columbus, OH

#4 Mar 31, 2010
ahhh, the babies get to buy the car they want, go to spring break EVERY year, never suffer never work thru school, default on the loan, and WE PAY? WHO will the government blame when this doesn't work?
Man, this is sick. I want back pay I didn't go on vacation until I was almost 30 I could not afford school and vacation. I did not go into debt, I WORKED!!!
Chrisanmar

New York, NY

#5 Mar 31, 2010
The President should be complimented on at least looking at the state of Student Loans now, but this bill does nothing for the immediately problem of repayment for those in Public Service.

Basically, what is says to me is; I have to struggle with paying my Student Loans until 2014 wherein, I may be able to take out another loan and combine the two before I or many like me get any real assistance.

Thanks for nothing.

While it is important for my children to be stable, it makes sense for me to be stable first so I can help my children be stable.
True Blue

Columbus, OH

#6 Mar 31, 2010
Typical Nobama move - dip into my pocket to help some kid get an education. We shouldn't have to accommodate learning! No thanks - vote him out!
Chrisanmar

New York, NY

#7 Mar 31, 2010
That's not entirely true.
I received Pell Grants and actually finished school; in Media Studies. I have been in Public Service for over 20 years though never using the degree I have for what it was intended for.

I help people and I'm really good at it. I'll be paying my student loan until I'm 70.
You think that's fair?
Hmmmmmm

United States

#8 Mar 31, 2010
Another Obama free ride for one segment of the population.

“Hen oida hoti ouden oida”

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#9 Mar 31, 2010
True Blue wrote:
Typical Nobama move - dip into my pocket to help some kid get an education. We shouldn't have to accommodate learning! No thanks - vote him out!
LOL yes because helping people better themselves is SUCH a horrid thing to do.
Bill Smith

Charleston, SC

#10 Mar 31, 2010
Chrisanmar wrote:
That's not entirely true.
I received Pell Grants and actually finished school; in Media Studies. I have been in Public Service for over 20 years though never using the degree I have for what it was intended for.
I help people and I'm really good at it. I'll be paying my student loan until I'm 70.
You think that's fair?
If you work in public service, then you don't pay a damn thing. All is paid for you.
Bill Smith

Charleston, SC

#11 Mar 31, 2010
MeganK wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL yes because helping people better themselves is SUCH a horrid thing to do.
Then start a charity to help people instead of wanting even more money to be stolen and given to someone else.
Sam Osborne

United States

#12 Mar 31, 2010
So Sen. Charles Grassley thinks that it is just fine for the money-changers in banks to deal with anonymous bureaucrats and get a good deal but students should not be able to do the same thing?
ohio lawyer

Columbus, OH

#13 Mar 31, 2010
Neocon Without a Party wrote:
An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never
failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class.
That class had insisted that Obama's socialism worked, and that no one would
be poor and no one would be rich --- a great equalizer. The professor then said,
"OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama's plan". All grades would
be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade, so no one would fail
and no one would receive an A. After the first test, the grades were averaged
and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset, and the
students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the
students who studied little had studied even less, and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too, so they studied little.
The second test average was a D! No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F. The scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings, and no one would study for the
benefit of anyone else. All failed, to their great surprise, and the professor told
them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great,
the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no
one will try or want to succeed.
Obama's vision of success.
Sounds like some jackass teaching at a fourth-rate institution. Or you made it up.
American

New York, NY

#14 Mar 31, 2010
When will we learn, anything the government gets involved in gets screwed up. PERIOD. Examples... Get rid of divorce courts and filing for a marriage license. No more Dept of education. No more DEA. etc...
ohio lawyer

Columbus, OH

#15 Mar 31, 2010
American wrote:
When will we learn, anything the government gets involved in gets screwed up. PERIOD. Examples... Get rid of divorce courts and filing for a marriage license. No more Dept of education. No more DEA. etc...
What the GOP had us doing was handing billions in taxpayer money to banks for doing virtually nothing - they kicked in campaign money to Republicans, stood in the middle and pocketed a fortune that could have gone to students. Now it will.
howrad

Cincinnati, OH

#16 Mar 31, 2010
What did student loans have to do with healthcare?
cliffglider

Lake Forest, CA

#17 Apr 16, 2010
True Blue wrote:
Typical Nobama move - dip into my pocket to help some kid get an education. We shouldn't have to accommodate learning! No thanks - vote him out!
Typical of the "just say no" party. Your post speaks volumes about your personal education. I guess you never even made it through high school. Most high school drop-outs don't want to contribute to education. Keep up the good work representing the uneducated right. Go stick your head in the sand!
marine mom

Hilliard, OH

#18 Apr 16, 2010
have you all lost your minds? what #### does student loans have to do with HCR??????????
the truth

Heath, OH

#19 Apr 16, 2010
MeganK wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL yes because helping people better themselves is SUCH a horrid thing to do.
WHen we make the effort but you must be talking of how good a job the dems do like Obama mama's brother living in a dirt floor hut and only gave 4.9% when he took in over 5 mill, or maybe Joe six pack binden giveing 1.2%.
Oh yea we don't want to leave out Al bore and his billions he makes on the BS global wraming lie's.
Yes lets take from the rich libs and give it bacl to the people and let Obama big ears bin laden live in the grass hut with dirt floors his brother lives in in his homeland.
Now that hope and change we can count on.
NO OBAMA
Obama lies Americans die
Libs lie freedom dies
DNC lies grandma dies ( yeas Obama throw his whit marxist grandma under the bus)
Cap and tax lies US jobs die
Welcome to Obama's 3rd world USA.
Act Like An Adult

Marengo, OH

#20 Apr 16, 2010
ohio lawyer wrote:
<quoted text>
Sounds like some jackass teaching at a fourth-rate institution. Or you made it up.
Probably a law school

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