Triangle Shirtwaist Fire Revisited

Triangle Shirtwaist Fire Revisited

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#1 Dec 7, 2012
For those who believe that unions are out of date and no longer needed, consider this snippet from today's Dispatch:

FACTORY LOST FIRE SAFETY CERTIFICATION

A Bangladeshi garment factory producing clothes for Wal-Mart, Disney and other major Western companies lost the certification in June, five months before a fire killed 112 workers.
http://hosted2.ap.org/OHCOL/8ef5320729ce4298a...

In other words, American companies are willfully blind to the working conditions in the countries where they contract for production of the goods that they sell here. And those conditions look an awful lot like the ones that spurred the creation of unions across industries in the United States some years back.

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#3 Dec 7, 2012
hey hey now wrote:
Meanwhile, a revisiting of the trade unionists who teamed up with the "expropriators" and bombers of the criminal class of late Imperial Russia shows that that vermin was part and parcel of the Bolshevics. Who under Lenin exterminated the wealthy and landholding class of Russians and who under Stalin murdered millions more (approx 20 million) causing famine in the Ukraine. The Ukrainians call it "Holodomor."
So, trade unions? History has judged them already. As should you. Didja catch the goonionista in Providence,RI two years ago threatening a camera man with getting a "Phuqqing_in_the_a$$ "? google it...
Nice goonion trash.
OK--so we toss unions. And we toss the big-time capitalists who burn up workers in factories.

Where do we go? Family farming at the subsistence level with strictly individual craftsmanship for goods that cannot be grown and itinerant service people to provide medical care, dentistry and the like?

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#5 Dec 7, 2012
hey hey now wrote:
<quoted text>But not this..."Bolshevik troops throwing live human beings into a blast furnace...."
mises.org/daily/574
"...It is not a book to be read before, during, or after a meal. You would not want to spoil a good meal with the image of Bolshevik troops throwing live human beings into a blast furnace. The Black Book is a story of mind-numbing and mindless brutality....But even more awesome is the incredible variety of their murderous means. In pursuit of utopia, the communists were forced to outdo themselves in continually discovering ever more ways to separate the bourgeoisie from their souls. They murdered people by hanging them, whipping them, slitting their throats, carving them up with axes, boiling them, crucifying them, beheading them, drawing and quartering them, stoning them, forcing them to fight to the death against other prisoners, massively drowning them, throwing them from helicopters, asphyxiating them, starving them, poisoning them, burying them alive, and making life unbearable leading to mass suicides. When creativity was absent, the communists fell back on their old standby — the banal bullet to the base of the brain.
Communists killed all types of people but focused their most intense fury on entrepreneurs, community leaders, and the highly educated. They made some half-hearted efforts to abolish money and decried "speculators," "rich bastards," and, "shopkeepers." Lenin said that "speculators … deserve … a bullet in the head." As the Nazis later would, the communists recruited many of their murderous thugs from the dregs of society. Thus, communism may be defined as the execrable executing the exceptional."
LEFTIST VERMIN SUCH AS YOURSELF IS ALREADY KNOW TO HUMANITY. NO AMOUNT OF YOUR PURPORTEDLY HIGH-MINDED BULLSH^T NULLIFIES THIS FACT. YOU ARE A VILE PIECE OF COMMUNIST EXCREMENT.
OK--so setting aside your gratuitous insults, what recommendations do you have for society and economy?

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#7 Dec 7, 2012
hey hey now wrote:
<quoted text>Ridding us from Communism, Socialism, collectivism, statism, and all manners of population control that require coercion.
The vacuum to be filled by what?

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#11 Dec 7, 2012
Karl Monday wrote:
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I didn't know that we live in Bangladesh.
Given that Bangladesh has the glorious sharia law, these problems are not supposed to happen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Countries_w...
Perhaps it is the responsibility of the home government more than a foreign corporation to enforce labor laws.
Even wiki adds cautions about that page: "This file is lacking source information."

But your smirking about sharia is irrelevant.

Yes, I would say that a company contracting for labor has a responsibility for the conditions under which workers die. Particularly since they apparently knew that even the local laws were not being followed.

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#12 Dec 7, 2012
hey hey now wrote:
<quoted text>Free peoples. Free of a bunch of thieving, robbing muhthuhpfhuqqahs who think they know best how to organize society.
Are you an anarchist?
Wait what

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#13 Dec 7, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
For those who believe that unions are out of date and no longer needed, consider this snippet from today's Dispatch:
FACTORY LOST FIRE SAFETY CERTIFICATION
A Bangladeshi garment factory producing clothes for Wal-Mart, Disney and other major Western companies lost the certification in June, five months before a fire killed 112 workers.
http://hosted2.ap.org/OHCOL/8ef5320729ce4298a...
In other words, American companies are willfully blind to the working conditions in the countries where they contract for production of the goods that they sell here. And those conditions look an awful lot like the ones that spurred the creation of unions across industries in the United States some years back.
Disney was one of the first takers on shipping things overseas to be made, and at that point I never purchased anything Disney again. Not a Disney family, wouldn't waste my time or money going to Disneyworld. Today's Disney is not the Disney we grew up with. Kinda like the Dem party. Ha.

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