gosnell guilty !!!!!!!

-Clayton Bigsby

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#121 May 14, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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By using a term "you people" you're showing a blanket assumption. Don't presume to think you know anything about my opinion on the subject of adoption. I fully support adoption. But it's not my place or your place to tell a woman she has to give birth to a child she doesn't want.
Adoption isn't the solution to the problem. You know this as well as I do. How many African American couples out there are trying to adopt? How many Caucasian couples want to adopt African American babies, especially those who may have been born with physical or mental disabilities? As soon as there are more couples looking to adopt than there are children available for adoption, you can use that argument.
Spare me:

Baby Byron Case Illustrates Black-and-White Issue of Adoption : Families: The black toddler's white foster parents want to adopt him. But foes contend that would amount to cultural genocide.
http://articles.latimes.com/1995-09-17/news/m...

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#122 May 14, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Spare me:
Baby Byron Case Illustrates Black-and-White Issue of Adoption : Families: The black toddler's white foster parents want to adopt him. But foes contend that would amount to cultural genocide.
http://articles.latimes.com/1995-09-17/news/m...
Spare yourself.

Until there are no little black babies sitting in foster homes and orphanages, you have no argument. And in addition to that, until all the disabled and institutionalized children who are born with deformities and other mental and physical problems are adopted, you have no leg to stand on.

-Clayton Bigsby

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#123 May 14, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
<quoted text>
Spare yourself.
Until there are no little black babies sitting in foster homes and orphanages, you have no argument. And in addition to that, until all the disabled and institutionalized children who are born with deformities and other mental and physical problems are adopted, you have no leg to stand on.
You got owned and you're mad. We get it.
You're too intellectually dishonest to admit that black racism and leftist enablers have a great deal to do with the nightmarish adoption situation in America.
Enzyte Bob

United States

#124 May 14, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
<quoted text>
Nobody is really interested in your dating experience.
what are lefties you're not interested in things that don't fit your agenda. There are still a lot of Catholic girls who still wait for marriage. In other words there is still a stubborn plurality out there that doesn't buy into your secular white trash Sandra Fluke lifestyle.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#125 May 14, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>You got owned and you're mad. We get it.
You're too intellectually dishonest to admit that black racism and leftist enablers have a great deal to do with the nightmarish adoption situation in America.
You really shouldn't be lecturing people about being intellectually dishonest, Oppenheimer.

-Clayton Bigsby

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#126 May 14, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
You really shouldn't be lecturing people about being intellectually dishonest, Oppenheimer.
Still butthurt about being proven wrong, little girl? Pooooor Che...she's gonna turn blue, I hope.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#127 May 14, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>You got owned and you're mad. We get it.
You're too intellectually dishonest to admit that black racism and leftist enablers have a great deal to do with the nightmarish adoption situation in America.
What was there to be "owned"? lol And I don't waste energy over being angry about anonymous people.

If that's the excuse you want to go with, go right ahead. I'm sure it makes you feel better about the state of things. Facts are, most women who have trouble getting pregnant are very willing to spend thousands of dollars to use a variety of methods to become pregnant and give birth to their own children.

Those who do adopt, tend to want to adopt within their own race and also do not want to adopt children who are disfigured, disabled or have some other kind of abnormality.

To bring attention to the article, I doubt you read the report or the article in its entirety.

“I have not seen any research which suggests that federal law has not been beneficial to minority children,” Ms. Calpin said.“We have seen what happens when race is allowed to be a consideration. Children are waiting longer in foster care to be adopted.”

This article references how many children experience issues due to being a different race from their adoptive parents and how those parents have not been prepared or have not received training on how to effectively and successfully deal with those issues that may arise.

There is no liberal agenda here, except for in your mind. The issues that were discussed were brought up by social workers, psychologists and were largely supported by numerous large adoption agencies.

I don't know any liberals who are against placing minority children in ANY home, much less a home where the adoptive parents are of a different race. However, it seems conservatives have an issue with gay couples adopting ( http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/04/05/1773... ).

How many people do you know who have adopted? Of those, how many have adopted minorities or disabled children?

The fact of the matter is that people tend to have a preference. There are those wonderful people out there who adopt minority children or children with "issues"...I've been lucky to know a couple. But they are the exception, not the rule.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#128 May 14, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
what are lefties you're not interested in things that don't fit your agenda. There are still a lot of Catholic girls who still wait for marriage. In other words there is still a stubborn plurality out there that doesn't buy into your secular white trash Sandra Fluke lifestyle.
Are you sure about that?

"A new study concludes that women at Catholic colleges are more promiscuous than their peers at secular colleges, raising new alarms about the state of Catholic higher education."

"Researchers from Mississippi State University looked at a survey of 1,000 college students nationwide and were surprised to find that “women attending colleges and universities affiliated with the Catholic Church are almost four times as likely to have participated in ‘hooking up’ compared to women at secular schools."

"In a report last month, Catholic researchers at Georgetown University found significant declines in Catholic practice and fidelity among students at 34 Catholic colleges in the United States."

"Likewise, a 2008 study published by The Cardinal Newman Society found that 46 percent of current and recent students at Catholic colleges nationwide — and 50 percent of female students — said they had engaged in sex outside of marriage. Three out of five agreed strongly or somewhat that premarital sex is not a sin, and 78 percent disagreed strongly or somewhat that using a condom to prevent pregnancy was a serious sin."

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive//ldn...

I'll go ahead and point out that this is information derived from a pro-life website and cites statistics complied by Catholic researchers.

Catholic women also make up a solid chunk of women who seek abortions. There may be a lot of Catholic girls who abstain, but there are a hell of a lot more who don't.
Enzyte Bob

United States

#129 May 14, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you sure about that?
"A new study concludes that women at Catholic colleges are more promiscuous than their peers at secular colleges, raising new alarms about the state of Catholic higher education."
I don't care about the secularised bimbos the call themselves Catholics in name only. talking about the ones Billy Joel used to sing about and believe me they're still around.
Enzyte Bob

United States

#130 May 14, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Just because you categorize him as left, doesn't mean he's a liberal. He is not.
Au contraire.

It is leftists who are not "liberals" these days. That is, unless you define being a liberal as experimenting into all sorts of permutations of deviant sexual acts.

I am conservative-libertarian - I.e. the backbone of the Reagan revolution. if my views don't need leaf it any one of your political pigeonholes it's because I come from a background of farmers, small businessman and working schleps you came here with nothing and have all done pretty well for themselves. That's why I don't have a lot of sympathy for all the deviants out there that want to F all day, drink, do drugs, sodomize, make bastard babies and then expect to stick somebody else with the tab when after sixty years of partying they find they have nothing in the bank.

If anything, I am populist.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#131 May 14, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Still butthurt about being proven wrong, little girl? Pooooor Che...she's gonna turn blue, I hope.
Proven wrong? About what? You are the guy who insists that the US didn't use nuclear weapons in WWII.

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

Ivy League-ISIS

#132 May 14, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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You may see it as a choice for some people and technically speaking, it is a choice. Everything in our lives is a choice. Whether we continue breathing is a choice.
But for some women, they do feel forced into that decision. And yes, I defend their choice to do so. I always will. Don't mistake that for defending Gosnell.
breathing is normally involuntary

You defend the killing of the yet to be born

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

Ivy League-ISIS

#133 May 14, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
<quoted text>
This tired argument again? If you don't understand or realize the difference between a 9-week-old fetus and a sensate child, I recommend taking biology.
I would much prefer someone seek an abortion because they realize off the bat that they will not be an adequate parent then decide after the child is born and put the baby in the trash, drown it, smother it, beat it, sell it, etc. etc. etc.
The difference is time.

That's it.

That same argument is used to say that we should kill the elderly when they stop being productive.
just saying

Blacklick, OH

#134 May 14, 2013
No death penalty and at 72 he can do a life sentence standing on his head. Bet No Soup 4 U or whatever its name is is cheesed.

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#135 May 14, 2013
GlitterSucks wrote:
Swift and speedy justice...take him back to his "sterile" office and castrate him, poke his eyeballs out, and provide humane comfort for him. When he has met his demise, throw him in a dumpster.
Amen. Disgusting creep who preys.

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#136 May 14, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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No, that's according to your logic. A toddler, teen and adult all have the same thing in common. They are born, they are breathing, thinking, feeling beings. This fact is one of the reasons there is a limit on when a woman can obtain an abortion. Our society places a certain amount of value on these attributes, which is why we have active and passive euthanasia in many cases. What stage you consider life valuable is your prerogative.
Birth does not confer humanity.

In fact, you have just demonstrated exactly how arbitrary such externally imposed criteria are.

A baby's location -- whether in-utero or just born -- does not change the objective fact that it is a human life.

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#137 May 14, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
Au contraire.
It is leftists who are not "liberals" these days. That is, unless you define being a liberal as experimenting into all sorts of permutations of deviant sexual acts.
I am conservative-libertarian - I.e. the backbone of the Reagan revolution. if my views don't need leaf it any one of your political pigeonholes it's because I come from a background of farmers, small businessman and working schleps you came here with nothing and have all done pretty well for themselves. That's why I don't have a lot of sympathy for all the deviants out there that want to F all day, drink, do drugs, sodomize, make bastard babies and then expect to stick somebody else with the tab when after sixty years of partying they find they have nothing in the bank.
If anything, I am populist.
No. You prefer to view the weak as prey, rather than setting a higher example, you advocate abusing the weak. I don't see it as "populist" to advocate criminal and anti social behaviors I order to improve society.

Anyone's sex life is not my business. What they do is between themselves, their partner, and God.

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

Ivy League-ISIS

#138 May 14, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
Birth does not confer humanity.
In fact, you have just demonstrated exactly how arbitrary such externally imposed criteria are.
A baby's location -- whether in-utero or just born -- does not change the objective fact that it is a human life.
Traitor to the sisterhood, you want to send women back to the kitchen. The Ancient Greeks did debauchery, therefore it's OK.

/sarc/mpfn1979
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#140 May 14, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
<quoted text>
Anyone's sex life is not my business. What they do is between themselves, their partner, and God.
Freaky.

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

Ivy League-ISIS

#141 May 14, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Who George? Oh. My bad. I thought you wrote "Disgusting creep who prays."
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Reader never suggested there wasn't an afterlife either. It's just Georgie in attack mode. Typical and sad.
Che: No principles, just hate

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