gosnell guilty !!!!!!!

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#567 May 28, 2013
Kemosahbe wrote:
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You can have a structured belief system without one speck of religion in it. Some of them even have values and morals incorporated into them. Being able to tell good from bad, right from wrong, can be done without religion. Even an amoeba can tell good from bad.
Even Richard Dawkins agrees that atheism precludes, and renders irrational, any absolute notion of morality.

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#568 May 28, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Just because people don't stay together doesn't mean I have any less love or commitment to his daughter. Apparently you feel differently about how children should be treated. Was she my legal stepdaughter? No, but I helped raised her from 5 till just recently (she just turned 13) and I will never reject her by saying she's not a part of my family. What's wrong with you?
And no, in March I did not have a boyfriend in Kuwait.
You said you wanted to further contact with the man no longer in Kuwait.
Why, you didn't even respond to his congratulations on your new job, as I remember.
Yet, you pretend you will have an ongoing relationship with his daughter?

I pity the child.

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#569 May 28, 2013
edit: you wanted NO further contact

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#570 May 28, 2013
Kemosahbe wrote:
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I'm going by what your leader said: "Judge not, lest ye be judged". Now, since you people claim he is infallible, then it logically follows that that sentence says it all. For you who believe, that is. No "illiteracy" involved. What makes your (and all) religions so weak is you claim all these exemptions, obfuscations, "what this REALLY means" moments. In a word, spin.
As Roger Daltrey said "We won't get fooled again".
Leviticus 19:15b

You shall not be partial to the poor or defer to the great, but in righteousness shall you judge your neighbor.

John 7:24

[Jesus:] "Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment."

Proverbs 17:15

He who justifies the wicked and he who condemns the righteous are both alike an abomination to the Lord.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

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#571 May 28, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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You said you wanted to further contact with the man no longer in Kuwait.
Why, you didn't even respond to his congratulations on your new job, as I remember.
Yet, you pretend you will have an ongoing relationship with his daughter?
I pity the child.
You said it yourself. No contact with HIM. His child doesn't live with HIM. You're a sad sick a-hole who thinks children should suffer because of their parents' mistakes or inability to make a relationship last. You're truly demented. Use your pity on yourself. You're the one who can't seem to comprehend basic humanity.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

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#572 May 28, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Leviticus 19:15b
You shall not be partial to the poor or defer to the great, but in righteousness shall you judge your neighbor.
John 7:24
[Jesus:] "Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment."
Proverbs 17:15
He who justifies the wicked and he who condemns the righteous are both alike an abomination to the Lord.
Just goes to show -

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_me...

“Ignorance is bliss.”

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#573 May 28, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Even Richard Dawkins agrees that atheism precludes, and renders irrational, any absolute notion of morality.
He also says morality does not come from religion.

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#574 May 28, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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You said it yourself. No contact with HIM. His child doesn't live with HIM. You're a sad sick a-hole who thinks children should suffer because of their parents' mistakes or inability to make a relationship last. You're truly demented. Use your pity on yourself. You're the one who can't seem to comprehend basic humanity.
The parent's mistake was introducing his daughter to transient figure[s] in his life.

A child who can claim multiple "step-parents" [and I use that word loosely] in her life is not a fortunate child.

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#575 May 28, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Just goes to show -
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_me...
The Bible is not "riddled with apparent contradictions."

It is a grand metanarrative, wherein OT covenant prefigures NT kingdom, and wherein passage interprets passage. Historians and archaeologists agree that the Bible passes with flying colors the internal, external and bibliographic tests for ancient texts. It is supported by 24,000+ different copies, the earliest of which was written a mere 25 years after the original. Consider that Cornelius Tacitus' Annals is considered an accurate account of the first century Roman Empire...when only 20 copies exist, the earliest of which was written 1,000 years after the original. Note also the works of Sophocles have 193 different copies for comparison -- and that reflects one of the highest numbers of copies you will see in regard to other ancient texts. Amazingly, the earliest of these was written 1,400 years after the original.

There is more historical and archaeological evidence to support the Bible than any other historical text, and it remains the #1 best-selling book of all time.

It's just hard for atheists to accept those facts.

"...it may be safely said that no other work of antiquity has been so accurately transmitted."

-- William Green

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#576 May 28, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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He also says morality does not come from religion.
Dawkins cannot account for it and, thus, his argument fails.
Further, Christians do not hold that morality "come[s] from religion."
Morality originates with God.
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Columbus, OH

#577 May 28, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Dawkins cannot account for it and, thus, his argument fails.
Further, Christians do not hold that morality "come[s] from religion."
Morality originates with God.
I have to judge intelligence of atheists.

how can one not just look around them, and not see God's hand in creation?

does nature happen by accident, and plants produce oxygen. Plants breathe what mammals exhale. Is water a fluke accident?

what about DNA and complexity........is that evolved from an ameba?

one wonders how someone can't possess the ability to see this world as God's gift to humanity.

especially man, who is top of the food chain.

if I were a mouse, I would swear there was no God because everybody is trying to kill or eat me.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

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#578 May 28, 2013
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The parent's mistake was introducing his daughter to transient figure[s] in his life.
A child who can claim multiple "step-parents" [and I use that word loosely] in her life is not a fortunate child.
Seven years hardly makes me transient. I guess you're just a real upstanding person who has never made any mistakes. I have nothing good to say about my ex except that he was, is and always will be an exceptional father. He was married and in the Marines when his daughter was born and has devoted himself heart and soul to her.

And with that, I'm not going to engage in any more conversation about her. As George even pointed out not that long ago, children are off limits. While she is not my natural-born child, I still consider her as a part of my family. So if you have anything further to say about her or my involvement in her life, it won't be met with a response. This particular relationship is no one else's business, I only regret I responded to anything that was mentioned about her at all. Lesson learned, mistake won't be made again.

Make no mistake, if you chastise any other parent or stepparent on here, you will be met with the same criticism.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#579 May 28, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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The Bible is not "riddled with apparent contradictions."
It is a grand metanarrative, wherein OT covenant prefigures NT kingdom, and wherein passage interprets passage. Historians and archaeologists agree that the Bible passes with flying colors the internal, external and bibliographic tests for ancient texts. It is supported by 24,000+ different copies, the earliest of which was written a mere 25 years after the original. Consider that Cornelius Tacitus' Annals is considered an accurate account of the first century Roman Empire...when only 20 copies exist, the earliest of which was written 1,000 years after the original. Note also the works of Sophocles have 193 different copies for comparison -- and that reflects one of the highest numbers of copies you will see in regard to other ancient texts. Amazingly, the earliest of these was written 1,400 years after the original.
There is more historical and archaeological evidence to support the Bible than any other historical text, and it remains the #1 best-selling book of all time.
It's just hard for atheists to accept those facts.
"...it may be safely said that no other work of antiquity has been so accurately transmitted."
-- William Green
Saying it isn't full of contradictions doesn't discount that it's full of contradictions.

There are so many things wrong with the above statement, I don't even know where to begin. That entire quote shows why religion, specifically referencing to the bible, is inconceivable.

But by all means, believe what you want. It's a free country.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#580 May 28, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Dawkins cannot account for it and, thus, his argument fails.
Further, Christians do not hold that morality "come[s] from religion."
Morality originates with God.
Morality existed before god was invented.
Wait what

Columbus, OH

#581 May 28, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Saying someone is astute isn't the same as them being astute. Considering I'm one of many posters on here who is guilty of lambasting people they don't agree with, I'm not real worried. You and your ilk pick and choose who you want to criticize for those actions and I am unapologetic (as is anyone else on here) for any statements I make.
My ilk? Who, exactly, is my ilk?

May I remind you that you wished for a poster to receive seriously bodily harm to the point of no return. I called you out on it. There is no goodness in that, no way, no how.

As for non-apologetic, I have seen people apologize - including myself.

Don't even - don't EVEN - act as if you have the high moral ground, for your actions show you don't.
Wait what

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#582 May 28, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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You said it yourself. No contact with HIM. His child doesn't live with HIM. You're a sad sick a-hole who thinks children should suffer because of their parents' mistakes or inability to make a relationship last. You're truly demented. Use your pity on yourself. You're the one who can't seem to comprehend basic humanity.
Demented? Didn't you live with the guy for 7 years, sans marriage? I would NEVER teach my daughter, stepdaughter, bonus daughter, niece, etc. such a lesson. Apparently you can't seem to comprehend a man respecting a woman.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

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Hightstown, NJ

#583 May 28, 2013
Wait what wrote:
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My ilk? Who, exactly, is my ilk?
May I remind you that you wished for a poster to receive seriously bodily harm to the point of no return. I called you out on it. There is no goodness in that, no way, no how.
As for non-apologetic, I have seen people apologize - including myself.
Don't even - don't EVEN - act as if you have the high moral ground, for your actions show you don't.
So have a lot of people on these threads. I've seen people post about being glad that children are killed, that women are tortured, beaten and raped, etc. etc. So, excuse me if I don't care one bit if you judge me for anything I say on here. You're just another picker and chooser - that's your ilk.

I would say collectively, there isn't a lot of goodness posted back and forth between people on here. You desire to single me out and that's fine. But don't sit there and act like I'm the only one who makes disparaging remarks, including you.

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#584 May 28, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Even Richard Dawkins agrees that atheism precludes, and renders irrational, any absolute notion of morality.
Who says I give a diddly darn what Dawkins thinks?

tip, in case you haven't figured it out by now, I am quite convinced you are a couple of tacos short of a combo plate. You're certainly not the type of rep that would ever sell me on re-adopting Christianity.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#585 May 28, 2013
Wait what wrote:
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Demented? Didn't you live with the guy for 7 years, sans marriage? I would NEVER teach my daughter, stepdaughter, bonus daughter, niece, etc. such a lesson. Apparently you can't seem to comprehend a man respecting a woman.
Ah, another one of those people who thinks everyone should do what they do. Whether or not we wanted to get married isn't any of your business or anyone else's. Good for you if that's what you want to teach your daughter. My father taught me that I don't to do anything I don't want to do and I don't want to get married. That's your decision and your business. Considering that I was with her father longer than he was married to her mother, I'd say it doesn't matter. Marriage doesn't stop a relationship from ending.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#586 May 28, 2013
Kemosahbe wrote:
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Who says I give a diddly darn what Dawkins thinks?
tip, in case you haven't figured it out by now, I am quite convinced you are a couple of tacos short of a combo plate. You're certainly not the type of rep that would ever sell me on re-adopting Christianity.
People who don't understand anything about atheism always go to Dawkins. I've had to explain to others in the past that atheists don't have a "leader" or a "go-to" person like many religious people do (Pat Robertson, for example). Dawkins is a dude who wrote some books and put his opinion out there. I enjoy his books, but I don't align myself with him or anyone else who claims himself to be an atheist. These people are terribly narrow-minded.

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