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“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

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#284 May 19, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Your first sentence is nonsensical and juvenile. I'll ignore it.
Here's yet another website that explores the whole baptism idea. And it's nondenominational, just for your benefit.
http://www.faithfacts.org/world-religions-and...
Bigger picture of your belief system? If you need me to explain the bigger picture of your so-called devotion to god and Christianity, then you're in big trouble.
The only boundaries that exist in your religion are the boundaries you have created. You can choose to celebrate god and your religion in any way you want. The fact that people (i.e. a church) tries to define how a person gives himself over to god is telling. To try and assert that someone is less committed to god or Christianity because he or she doesn't go to this church or that church, doesn't go to confession, doesn't take communion, doesn't go to church three times a week, etc. is ridiculous. If those are activities you feel makes you closer to your god, great. But you shouldn't try to define it for others and say someone else is less of a Christian than you or that only your church is the right church.
No, the first sentence highlighted proof of your own bigotry and lack of introspection.

Boundaries? I only highlighted how ignorantly bigoted that website you quoted was. You didn't like the definition of a Christian that I provided. All denominations as I understand require baptism as a entry to their particular faith as a symbol of salvation and acceptance.

Never once have I ever stated, and I never will state, that my church is the right church for everyone. My faith however, is there. You really haven't read a word I have said. All I have done is defend the premise of the Catholic faith, provided reasoning as I know it through my education, why some things were wrong per Catholic doctrine and why it was wrong in a few instances for the government to intervene (ie, the birth control issue and the Carla Hale issue). I'm sorry that you are so bigoted that you cannot read and attempt to understand what I've stated and have assumed a few things.

Please go bark up another tree. I've a hunch you are somewhat contradictory given this statement, found on the website you've provided:

(c) However, anyone who refuses to be baptized probably does not have a genuine faith.

See last statement, in the Conclusion. There is a reason many, many Christian sects teach to "form" one in the faith. In Catholicism, this is a foundational conception, and is why baptism while an infant is often performed--one "grows" in the faith and it takes a lifetime. Nothing at all to do with "good works" or any other such nonsense. More of a matter of acceptance and formation of one's spiritual character. It's also a reason I avoid the p!$$!ing matches that contain biblical quotes, religious comparisons, etc.

Skimmer II.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Canal Winchester, OH

#285 May 19, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
<quoted text>
No, the first sentence highlighted proof of your own bigotry and lack of introspection.
Boundaries? I only highlighted how ignorantly bigoted that website you quoted was. You didn't like the definition of a Christian that I provided. All denominations as I understand require baptism as a entry to their particular faith as a symbol of salvation and acceptance.
Never once have I ever stated, and I never will state, that my church is the right church for everyone. My faith however, is there. You really haven't read a word I have said. All I have done is defend the premise of the Catholic faith, provided reasoning as I know it through my education, why some things were wrong per Catholic doctrine and why it was wrong in a few instances for the government to intervene (ie, the birth control issue and the Carla Hale issue). I'm sorry that you are so bigoted that you cannot read and attempt to understand what I've stated and have assumed a few things.
Please go bark up another tree. I've a hunch you are somewhat contradictory given this statement, found on the website you've provided:
(c) However, anyone who refuses to be baptized probably does not have a genuine faith.
See last statement, in the Conclusion. There is a reason many, many Christian sects teach to "form" one in the faith. In Catholicism, this is a foundational conception, and is why baptism while an infant is often performed--one "grows" in the faith and it takes a lifetime. Nothing at all to do with "good works" or any other such nonsense. More of a matter of acceptance and formation of one's spiritual character. It's also a reason I avoid the p!$$!ing matches that contain biblical quotes, religious comparisons, etc.
Skimmer II.
1. No, that statement was idiotic.
2. You will find bias with anything that doesn't align itself with your beliefs. And I provided another website that wasn't devoted to one denomination.
3. Right - as YOU understand it. You apparently don't understand the symbolic gestures of other religions.
4. Bark up your own tree. You insinuated yourself in a conversation that wasn't directed at you. If you don't like what I have to say, it's your responsibility not to engage me. It's that simple.
5. "Probably." That's an interesting word. It instantly allows the sentence to be deemed an opinion rather than a fact.
6. Laughing at your reference to "good works" being nonsense. Interesting.
7. Baptism and any other symbolic religious gesture is a personal decision. It is not indicative of anyone's level of belief or their commitment to their religion.

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#286 May 19, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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2. You will find bias with anything that doesn't align itself with your beliefs. And I provided another website that wasn't devoted to one denomination.
As you do, as well. There really is no such thing as a lack of bias in how we communicate. Take that from a comm major. I simply pointed out to you the bigotry and ignorance that happens within religions. And that website is terribly ignorant, it has not portrayed the Catholic faith accurately, ie, we do not worship Mary. And yes, that first link was devoted to one denomination: Baptist.
That second link is where I found the quote that one who refused baptism wasn't likely committed to the faith. Do you even read what you circulate? My gawd, how can you defend what you do not read?

You can ignore me as well. I'll be all the happier for it. I don't care to get into any pissing matches with someone who obviously doesn't give a fig about defending their position without reading and comprehending the information they use to defend themselves?

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Canal Winchester, OH

#287 May 19, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
<quoted text>
As you do, as well. There really is no such thing as a lack of bias in how we communicate. Take that from a comm major. I simply pointed out to you the bigotry and ignorance that happens within religions. And that website is terribly ignorant, it has not portrayed the Catholic faith accurately, ie, we do not worship Mary. And yes, that first link was devoted to one denomination: Baptist.
That second link is where I found the quote that one who refused baptism wasn't likely committed to the faith. Do you even read what you circulate? My gawd, how can you defend what you do not read?
You can ignore me as well. I'll be all the happier for it. I don't care to get into any pissing matches with someone who obviously doesn't give a fig about defending their position without reading and comprehending the information they use to defend themselves?
I don't have beliefs that I align myself with.

I never said the first one wasn't a Baptist-based website. I said I provided you with a second that had the same kind of information but was non-denominational. Do YOU read what I write? lol

The point wasn't whether someone who refused baptism is committed to his religion. The point was that baptism is not necessary for one to believe and is not a requirement is all sects of Christianity.

I was ignoring you...lol. You apparently felt the need to converse with me, so here we are. As a comm major as well, I'll ask you to make sure you are able to read and comprehend the message, not insert your own interpretation then accuse me of those interpretations. And why your last sentence had a question mark is beyond me. So now that I've made my point and you've made yours, continue on your way. Trust me, we'll both be happier for it.

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#288 May 19, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't have beliefs that I align myself with.
I never said the first one wasn't a Baptist-based website. I said I provided you with a second that had the same kind of information but was non-denominational. Do YOU read what I write? lol
The point wasn't whether someone who refused baptism is committed to his religion. The point was that baptism is not necessary for one to believe and is not a requirement is all sects of Christianity.
I was ignoring you...lol. You apparently felt the need to converse with me, so here we are. As a comm major as well, I'll ask you to make sure you are able to read and comprehend the message, not insert your own interpretation then accuse me of those interpretations. And why your last sentence had a question mark is beyond me. So now that I've made my point and you've made yours, continue on your way. Trust me, we'll both be happier for it.
That dude in Kuwait is luckier than this weekend's Powerball winner.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#289 May 21, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Interesting.
Enzyte Bob says he is a Christian, yet he supports abortion. So are you saying Enzyte Bob cannot be a Christian?
Last time I checked, anyone who repents and commits themselves to Jesus Christ is a Christian.
Also last time I checked, you aren't god and don't have any right or invitation to speak for god and say who and who isn't a Christian. I believe only god has the right to judge that. Blasphemous.
But I'm more interested to know if you consider Enzyte a Christian.
hey stupid........

can you read and understand what you read?

Last time I checked, the Bible contains God's word.

Last time I checked, God game me permission to spread his word.

My right to speak God's word is written in the Bible, and the 1st amendment provides my freedom to speak it.

what I am interested in is how a woman of your age is so ignorant of reality.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#290 May 21, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
hey stupid........
can you read and understand what you read?
Last time I checked, the Bible contains God's word.
Last time I checked, God game me permission to spread his word.
My right to speak God's word is written in the Bible, and the 1st amendment provides my freedom to speak it.
what I am interested in is how a woman of your age is so ignorant of reality.
Then you apparently missed the part in the bible that tells you not to judge. And the first amendment doesn't say "You shall judge whether or not someone is a Christian for god."

You're unbelievably stupid. And as for me being ignorant of reality? You're the one who believes in this imaginary being.

And I'm still waiting for you to answer my question about Enzyte. Afraid to answer???

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#291 May 21, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
<quoted text>
Then you apparently missed the part in the bible that tells you not to judge. And the first amendment doesn't say "You shall judge whether or not someone is a Christian for god."
You're unbelievably stupid. And as for me being ignorant of reality? You're the one who believes in this imaginary being.
And I'm still waiting for you to answer my question about Enzyte. Afraid to answer???
Christians are absolutely directed to discern whether or not someone is a true believer.

Matthew 7:15-20

Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.

I John 4:1-6

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already. Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. They are from the world; therefore they speak from the world, and the world listens to them. We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of error.

Psalm 119:104

Through your precepts I get understanding; therefore I hate every false way.

-Clayton Bigsby

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#292 May 21, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
<quoted text>
Then you apparently missed the part in the bible that tells you not to judge.
More idiocy from a non-Christian telling us about our own beliefs.
Wake up:

The judgment Christians are to refrain from is judgment concerning the eternal fate of anyone. Leave intentions, motives, and final worth to God. We are not to confuse the judgment of the actions of people with sitting in judgment over them as to their eternal fate. But reluctance to make judgments concerning sinful acts is to produce that type of paralysis and inactivity that has brought both contemporary society and American Catholics to their present plight.
http://www.bigbluewave.ca/2009/04/judge-not-l...

So I'm not judging where you'll end up after you die, but I'm perfectly OK with telling you what I think of you here.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#293 May 21, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
Christians are absolutely directed to discern whether or not someone is a true believer.
Matthew 7:15-20
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.
I John 4:1-6
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already. Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. They are from the world; therefore they speak from the world, and the world listens to them. We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
Psalm 119:104
Through your precepts I get understanding; therefore I hate every false way.
They're also directed to stone women who aren't virgins.

It also says to not judge.

“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother,‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye."

Matthew 7:1-5

As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. WHO ARE YOU TO PASS JUDGEMENT ON THE SERVANT OF ANOTHER?

It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind....

Romans 14: 1-23

However, there are also more than 700 inconsistencies in the bible, so I'm sure everyone can pick and choose which they want to follow.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#294 May 21, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>More idiocy from a non-Christian telling us about our own beliefs.
Wake up:
The judgment Christians are to refrain from is judgment concerning the eternal fate of anyone. Leave intentions, motives, and final worth to God. We are not to confuse the judgment of the actions of people with sitting in judgment over them as to their eternal fate. But reluctance to make judgments concerning sinful acts is to produce that type of paralysis and inactivity that has brought both contemporary society and American Catholics to their present plight.
http://www.bigbluewave.ca/2009/04/judge-not-l...
So I'm not judging where you'll end up after you die, but I'm perfectly OK with telling you what I think of you here.
And you expect me to take any right-wing website seriously? What was it you said yesterday about using websites that are biased? Yeah...

I was a Christian once. I'm quite familiar with the bible and the philosophy of Christianity. And - gasp - I even attended the Catholic church for six years.

I don't care what you think of me...lol. I would've thought that had already been ascertained.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#295 May 22, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
<quoted text>
Then you apparently missed the part in the bible that tells you not to judge. And the first amendment doesn't say "You shall judge whether or not someone is a Christian for god."
You're unbelievably stupid. And as for me being ignorant of reality? You're the one who believes in this imaginary being.
And I'm still waiting for you to answer my question about Enzyte. Afraid to answer???
I was very clear in my answer about Christian life.

If you disregard the bible teachings, then it is impossible to be a Christian.

All inclusive.....is that sinking in?

your liberal BS is being sprayed with raid killing it.

Watching your world crumble is a blast to watch.

All the future impeachment trials are sure to make for great TV.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#296 May 22, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
<quoted text>
And you expect me to take any right-wing website seriously? What was it you said yesterday about using websites that are biased? Yeah...
I was a Christian once. I'm quite familiar with the bible and the philosophy of Christianity. And - gasp - I even attended the Catholic church for six years.
I don't care what you think of me...lol. I would've thought that had already been ascertained.
shame your Mother did not believe in abortion like you do.

Thinking about you makes 1/2 this country sick.

watching you implode makes 1/2 the country cheer.

by the end of 2013 the liberal reign of power will be written in history as the largest abuse of power ever in the USA.

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

Ivy League-ISIS

#297 May 22, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
shame your Mother did not believe in abortion like you do.
Thinking about you makes 1/2 this country sick.
watching you implode makes 1/2 the country cheer.
by the end of 2013 the liberal reign of power will be written in history as the largest abuse of power ever in the USA.
In Omaha last tuesday, they removed a two term D mayor, a big gun banner who turned it into a sanctuary for the cartels.

58R-42D, in a city that voted for Obama by a reverse margin.

Obviously the Ds are facing a major drop in the polls, which we will see next month in Missouri and Massachusetts.

The regime needs a kneecapping next year.

Montana, Louisiana, South Dakota, West Virginia, and Arkansas can provide it.

Two of those are already in the GOP bag.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#298 May 22, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
I was very clear in my answer about Christian life.
If you disregard the bible teachings, then it is impossible to be a Christian.
All inclusive.....is that sinking in?
your liberal BS is being sprayed with raid killing it.
Watching your world crumble is a blast to watch.
All the future impeachment trials are sure to make for great TV.
No, you weren't. I asked you outright if you felt Enzyte Bob is a Christian. You haven't answered that. You're deflecting.

I don't see my world crumbling at all. My life is better than its been in a years. How very Christian of you to try and find some sense of misery in a person's life to rejoice over. Yeah, you're quite the believer.

You have a strange amount of anger within you. Someone who devotes himself to go shouldn't be so angry and filled with spite.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#299 May 22, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
shame your Mother did not believe in abortion like you do.
Thinking about you makes 1/2 this country sick.
watching you implode makes 1/2 the country cheer.
by the end of 2013 the liberal reign of power will be written in history as the largest abuse of power ever in the USA.
lol...you're seriously a nutty guy! At least the majority of other conservative posters have something of substance to say. Try reading a book...in fact, try reading the bible and find out how god wants you to act. CINO.

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

Ivy League-ISIS

#300 May 22, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
<quoted text>

I don't see my world crumbling at all. My life is better than its been in a years.
Objectively, the forum right will find the quoted above wrong.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#301 May 22, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
<quoted text>
Objectively, the forum right will find the quoted above wrong.
They can find it however they like. I know my life is better than it has been in years. Why anyone else would care if this is true or not is beyond me. Whether or not someone does, I'll continue living happily.

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

Ivy League-ISIS

#302 May 22, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
<quoted text>
They can find it however they like. I know my life is better than it has been in years. Why anyone else would care if this is true or not is beyond me. Whether or not someone does, I'll continue living happily.
You see it as relativistic.

The forum right doesn't.

You might think you are better, but that doesn't make it so.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#303 May 22, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
<quoted text>
You see it as relativistic.
The forum right doesn't.
You might think you are better, but that doesn't make it so.
You might think it isn't, but that doesn't make it so.

I'm not going to give out details of my private life, but it's a certainty that I'm better off now than I was four or even eight years ago.

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