Is Nevada rancher a freeloader?
Real Tea Party

Reynoldsburg, OH

#22 Apr 16, 2014
dunadd wrote:
What the rancher needs to do is give a few million each to barry's friends, muslim brotherhood in Egypt and al Qaeda in Syria, and everything will be fine.
Or just stop paying taxes like Bundy did, save over a million in 20 years.
Real Tea Party

Reynoldsburg, OH

#23 Apr 16, 2014
d pantz wrote:
No. He is part of a 30 year old rebellion in the state of Nevada over federal control of land. It goes deeper than the Bundy ranch.
Oh it's kind of like the Russia/Ukraine/Crimea territorial crisis right? State over Fed stuff.

Why isn't the governor declaring independence? He must be a RINO in bed with Harry Reid that leftist tyrant.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#24 Apr 16, 2014
Oliver Canterberry

Columbus, OH

#26 Apr 16, 2014
No.

Obama's government is out of control and someone is standing up for freedom.

The federal Bureau of Land Management began a roundup of Cliven Bundy's cattle earlier this month, contending he owes over $1 million in back fees, penalties and other costs for grazing the herds on federally managed land.

The roundup in the area of Bunkerville, less than 74 miles northeast of Las Vegas, became a flashpoint for anti-government groups, militia members, conservative politicians and gun rights activists.

Federal rangers, facing about 1,000 of Bundy's armed supporters, backed down on Saturday and ultimately released at least 300 of the seized cattle, in a decision the U.S. Bureau of Land Management said was made to avoid harm to employees and the public.

The four-hour standoff temporarily shut down Interstate 15 and ended when the bureau stopped rounding up cattle, citing safety concerns, and then agreed to return the cows.

"Every sheriff across the United States of America, take away the guns from the United States bureaucrats," the 76-year-old Bundy said on Monday while standing on an un-hitched flatbed truck trailer at the entrance to his property.
Oliver Canterberry

Columbus, OH

#27 Apr 16, 2014
Cliven Bundy has over a thousand armed supporters who are tired of the Obama tyranny. The key is "armed."
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#29 Apr 16, 2014
Oliver Canterberry wrote:
Cliven Bundy has over a thousand armed supporters who are tired of the Obama tyranny. The key is "armed."
That worked out well in Waco.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#30 Apr 16, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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Guy violates the law, is ordered by a court to pay the fees that he has willfully refused to pay, he continues to refuse to pay now violating the court order, the government then acts to enforce that court order and the conclusion you draw is "Obama's government is out of control." It all makes perfect sense now.
It's nice how they respect the Constitution, isn't it?

woof
Real Tea Party

Reynoldsburg, OH

#31 Apr 16, 2014
So when I smuggle thousands of illegal aliens and I don't recognize the federal government that is okay right? I don't want them to pay any tax and they can live free or die in my compound. Heck I'll even arm them and stand up against the federal government!!!

What happened to "It's the law" motto? I hope the conservatives will let them cross the boarder it's not the real law the constitution never says close the boarder so in some way my amigos are carrying the ranchers spirit of anti-government.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#33 Apr 16, 2014
Oliver Canterberry

Columbus, OH

#34 Apr 16, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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That worked out well in Waco.
woof
There were not a 1000 at Waco, only women and children that were slaughtered and burned to death by tanks and flame throwers.
Oliver Canterberry

Columbus, OH

#35 Apr 16, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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Were those guys at Ruby Ridge armed?
No.

Randy Weaver's wife was killed by FBI sniper Hoorhichi while holding a baby in her arms.
Oliver Canterberry

Columbus, OH

#36 Apr 16, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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Guy violates the law, is ordered by a court to pay the fees that he has willfully refused to pay, he continues to refuse to pay now violating the court order, the government then acts to enforce that court order and the conclusion you draw is "Obama's government is out of control." It all makes perfect sense now.
Glen Beck interviewed Cliven Bundy yesterday on his show. I guess you missed it. This is about freedom and the Constitution which mean nothing to progressives and communists.
Oliver Canterberry

Columbus, OH

#37 Apr 16, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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Guy violates the law, is ordered by a court to pay the fees that he has willfully refused to pay, he continues to refuse to pay now violating the court order, the government then acts to enforce that court order and the conclusion you draw is "Obama's government is out of control." It all makes perfect sense now.
Millions have lost their health care due to our Kenyan president repeated lies that "if you like your health care you can keep it."

Wake up Che.

Wake up Duke.

Woof.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#42 Apr 16, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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How can this be about the Constitution when Bundy claims not to recognize the legitimacy of the Federal Government's very existence?
Quite the conundrum for Mr. Bundy, isn't it?

woof
Oliver Canterberry

Columbus, OH

#43 Apr 16, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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So Bundy has refused to pay his grazing fees since 1993 because of "our Kenyan president's repeated lies" and the ACA? Fascinating.
Bundy is not on welfare and food stamps, he is working and providing a product and service to this nation and he deserves better treatment that to have his cattle confiscated by a tyrannical government that is not following the Constitution or the Bill of Rights or States rights.
Oliver Canterberry

Columbus, OH

#44 Apr 16, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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So Bundy has refused to pay his grazing fees since 1993 because of "our Kenyan president's repeated lies" and the ACA? Fascinating.
Obamacare is built on lies.

If you like your health care you can keep it. Lie.

If you like your doctor you can keep him / her. Lie.
Oliver Canterberry

Columbus, OH

#47 Apr 16, 2014
A government big enough to give you everything has to have the power to take everything.

Wake up.
Oliver Canterberry

Columbus, OH

#48 Apr 16, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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What does that have to do with Bundy not paying grazing fees since 1993 again?
Bundy has paid grazing fees - to the state of Nevada but not the federal government.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#49 Apr 16, 2014
Oliver Canterberry wrote:
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Bundy is not on welfare and food stamps, he is working and providing a product and service to this nation and he deserves better treatment that to have his cattle confiscated by a tyrannical government that is not following the Constitution or the Bill of Rights or States rights.
At least four problems with your hypothesis:

1) The Federal government owns the land upon which Mr. Bundy was grazing his cattle, adjacent to Mr. Bundy's 150 acre ranch.

2) The Federal Government sued Mr. Bundy within the bounds of and pursuant to the constraints of the US and Nevada Constitutions twice within the past twenty years, and on each occasion secured judgments against him finding that he was committing trespass, ordering him to remove his cattle from federal land.

3) He had twenty year to comply, by simply removing his cattle, and he refused to do so.

4) Points one through three are hardly indicative of "tyranny". They are indicative of a solitary individual's purposeful acts intended to demonstrate contempt for the law.

5) Mr. Bundy is a businessman, in the business of raising and butchering cattle for profit. He is no different than a restaurant factory operator or who refuses to pay his suppliers, and then complains when they sue him fro payment.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#50 Apr 16, 2014
Oliver Canterberry wrote:
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Bundy has paid grazing fees - to the state of Nevada but not the federal government.
No, he did not. They declined to accept them, because they don't own the land.

woof

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