“I'm right”

Since: Oct 12

Rolla, MO

#251 Apr 22, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>You still don't get it do you?

The revolution wasn't a one day event. It took place over a period of 12-20 years, depending on where one assigns a start and finish date.

Do you think that a large percentage of colonists supported an armed revolution in 1763?

woof
I didn't write that this was a running poll over 12-20 years. Obviously opinions fluctuated during such a long time span. In fact at some point, we might all be right during that time. I was specifically talking about during the time of the signing of the Declaration of Independence.

I think much of what happened was reactionary. It's much like today's unrest. Back then, we had the Intolerable Acts. Today we have the Nevada Rancher. I think back then (and throughout history) the percentage of people believing one way vs. another in political beliefs were very similar to today. There have always been about 40% cons, 20% libs, and 40% don't know wtf they are doing. That's exactly why those historians that have come up with the 40-45% ballpark are probably right.

Those Nevada militia guys aren't thinking, "I want armed revolution." They are thinking, "wtf do you think you are to tell us how to live our lives?" The arms are just means to an end, provided by the same guys that had to take care of business the first time.

“I'm right”

Since: Oct 12

Rolla, MO

#252 Apr 22, 2014
tranpsosition wrote:
<quoted text>My grandmum does the same thing with statistics. It's cute but strange.

"50% of people are against this new law!"

'Where did you get that number from, nan?'

"It just feels right"

'...'

Though she is starting to go a bit softheaded, so it's really to be forgiven.
I've got a source. An expert of the time period. Your family is just soft-headed.

“I'm right”

Since: Oct 12

Rolla, MO

#253 Apr 22, 2014
Real Tea Party wrote:
<quoted text>There were many people in the past pay 100% income tax, called slaves.
Yep. Whether you take it all through taxes or don't pay it in the first place, it's still slavery.

“I'm right”

Since: Oct 12

Rolla, MO

#254 Apr 22, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>I'm gonna get me some chickens and goats and cows and a little bit o barbed wire fence and set up shop down at the city park.

I figure City council won't mind. Its public land.

woof
I am on city council and have decided to take land around you. Oh btw... You must now pay me tax for those chickens and goats and cows. Also there is a viewing tax I've just implemented. Next time you look at your chickens you must pay me. Everyone else has been scared into paying my fee, so don't be a deadbeat.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#255 Apr 23, 2014
killa_the_compassionate wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't write that this was a running poll over 12-20 years. Obviously opinions fluctuated during such a long time span. In fact at some point, we might all be right during that time. I was specifically talking about during the time of the signing of the Declaration of Independence.
I think much of what happened was reactionary. It's much like today's unrest. Back then, we had the Intolerable Acts. Today we have the Nevada Rancher. I think back then (and throughout history) the percentage of people believing one way vs. another in political beliefs were very similar to today. There have always been about 40% cons, 20% libs, and 40% don't know wtf they are doing. That's exactly why those historians that have come up with the 40-45% ballpark are probably right.
Those Nevada militia guys aren't thinking, "I want armed revolution." They are thinking, "wtf do you think you are to tell us how to live our lives?" The arms are just means to an end, provided by the same guys that had to take care of business the first time.
The guys in Nevada are uneducated nutbags with guns who have no respect for or understanding of the Constitution, and they're trying to bait the folks working at the BLM into a gunfight so that they can gain sympathy from the populous.

Given the fact that they actually do have representation in the body politic, any comparison to the revolutionaries of the 1700's is gravely mistaken.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#256 Apr 23, 2014
killa_the_compassionate wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't write that this was a running poll over 12-20 years. Obviously opinions fluctuated during such a long time span. In fact at some point, we might all be right during that time. I was specifically talking about during the time of the signing of the Declaration of Independence.
But the "revolution" was not merely limited to 1776.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#257 Apr 23, 2014
killa_the_compassionate wrote:
<quoted text>
I am on city council and have decided to take land around you. Oh btw... You must now pay me tax for those chickens and goats and cows. Also there is a viewing tax I've just implemented. Next time you look at your chickens you must pay me. Everyone else has been scared into paying my fee, so don't be a deadbeat.
I'm gonna call my buddies. They have guns, women, and children, and lots of free time and anger, and big trucks.

Gonna get me some face time on Glenn Beck and Hannity too.

Get ready to rumble, brother.

woof
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#259 Apr 23, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
The guys in Nevada are uneducated nutbags with guns who have no respect for or understanding of the Constitution, and they're trying to bait the folks working at the BLM into a gunfight so that they can gain sympathy from the populous.
Given the fact that they actually do have representation in the body politic, any comparison to the revolutionaries of the 1700's is gravely mistaken.
woof
according to a troll like you.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#261 Apr 23, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm gonna call my buddies. They have guns, women, and children, and lots of free time and anger, and big trucks.
Gonna get me some face time on Glenn Beck and Hannity too.
Get ready to rumble, brother.
woof
you are all wind and no rain.

go for it..........waiting.
d pantz

Chicago, IL

#262 Apr 23, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm gonna get me some chickens and goats and cows and a little bit o barbed wire fence and set up shop down at the city park.
I figure City council won't mind. Its public land.
woof
Has your family maintained the land for generations? Do you have mineral and water rights to it? Was it your families land before the so called "public" decided to charge you millions to do it? No? You don't have a comparison then, moron.
d pantz

Chicago, IL

#263 Apr 23, 2014
Real Tea Party wrote:
<quoted text>
I have no fear, being a law abiding citizen and pay all my taxes they cannot take me away. I am nonetheless having my money taken away to support others exploiting and mooching public properties, just like welfare recipient they are benefiting for service I am paying. And they have guns too in camouflage uniforms.
that's nice but I wasn't talking about you. Are you paying fees in the millions on top of all other taxes just to use your land as a cattle rancher? Or are you a multi national corporate douche who pays almost zero while you shit on the poor?
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#265 Apr 23, 2014
d pantz wrote:
<quoted text> Has your family maintained the land for generations? Do you have mineral and water rights to it? Was it your families land before the so called "public" decided to charge you millions to do it? No? You don't have a comparison then, moron.
A) The land has never been deeded to anyone other than the Mexican and American Governments.

B) See A.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#266 Apr 23, 2014
d pantz wrote:
<quoted text> that's nice but I wasn't talking about you. Are you paying fees in the millions on top of all other taxes just to use your land as a cattle rancher? Or are you a multi national corporate douche who pays almost zero while you shit on the poor?
BTW, he wasn't being charged "millions". The fee is 1.35 per head, including a calf.

At most, he had 900 head. Usually around 500. Do the math.

Beyond that, he hasn't paid in over twenty years. What happens when people don't pay pursuant to the terms of a lease? You understand the term "material breach"?

Sure you do.

woof

woof
d pantz

Chicago, IL

#267 Apr 23, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
You still don't get it do you?
The revolution wasn't a one day event. It took place over a period of 12-20 years, depending on where one assigns a start and finish date.
Do you think that a large percentage of colonists supported an armed revolution in 1763?
woof
that's where your "fence sitters" wwerent a factor. I imagine most of them talked about it but when the conflict escalated and the Redcoats were at their door, they turned to "yes men" like yourself...
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#268 Apr 23, 2014
$1.35 per head per month. Do the math panty boy.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#269 Apr 23, 2014
d pantz

Chicago, IL

#270 Apr 23, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
A) The land has never been deeded to anyone other than the Mexican and American Governments.
B) See A.
woof
answer the questions. I didn't say anything about a deed. If my neighbor doesn't mow a section of his lawn or trim the trees and I do it for three generations, who has more of a right to the land? Ever hear of Property Encroachment?
d pantz

Chicago, IL

#271 Apr 23, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
$1.35 per head per month. Do the math panty boy.
woof
yeah. That also put other ranchers (who pay other taxes too, idiot) out of business. While corporation like GE pay next to nothing an have record profit.
d pantz

Chicago, IL

#272 Apr 23, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
unlimited books? Thx douchy.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#273 Apr 23, 2014
d pantz wrote:
<quoted text> answer the questions. I didn't say anything about a deed. If my neighbor doesn't mow a section of his lawn or trim the trees and I do it for three generations, who has more of a right to the land? Ever hear of Property Encroachment?
You really are the king of red herrings.

You clearly know what a deed is. You clearly know what a lease is. You clearly know that in 1998, the Federal government asserted its rights in Federal District Court by alleging a breach of its lease, and trespass. If you don't, I suggest you read what I just posted.

woof

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