Is Nevada rancher a freeloader?

“I'm right”

Since: Oct 12

Rolla, MO

#230 Apr 21, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>There is not consensus among "historians". And the "number" is a moving target that changes over time and geography. You're not comprehending that.

woof

woof
I understand that. What would you say that range is?
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#231 Apr 21, 2014
killa_the_compassionate wrote:
<quoted text>
I understand that. What would you say that range is?
5% to 70%

woof
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#232 Apr 21, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
5% to 70%
woof
did you get fired from the fake law firm, and have taken up predicting the weather?

don't explode your fat head with stating percentages.

it has a 5-75% chance of rain tomorrow.
d pantz

United States

#233 Apr 22, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
No, you "go" with what you perceive to be an accurate number.
I'm telling you that there are plenty of learned people out there that would say your number is not accurate whatsoever, and that the number you are looking for is elusive, is the subject of much debate among historians, and changed over a period of years.
The links I provided aren't "random".
For instance:
"From this sketch of the events of the Revolution and analysis of it in terms of the comparative sociology of revolutions, let us return to the minority myth; to the methodological assumptions underlying the citing of the Adams letter, and its repetition. A major clue to the error ought to have been evident in that it was in conflict with other statements of Adams. Adams did not, of course, have sophisticated techniques with which to gauge American opinion, and these have also failed some of our modern pollsters at times, but what is fascinating after examining the question of support of the Revolution from a number of angles, and with the advantage of considerable hindsight and a multitude of theories and historical studies, is how nearly John Adamsí views coincide with my own findings and those of several other historians, save that he was generous in the number of Loyalists.
Writing in the last years of his life, he estimated them at no more than a third, and, making no mention of neutrals, saw the rest as pro-patriot. Further, his was a dynamic estimate changing with time that noted the massive protest against the Stamp Act and the later British efforts to win over a segment of the Americans. He finally concluded that New England, centering around Massachusetts, was solidly pro-revolution, the South, focusing around a firmly proAmerican Virginia, perhaps less so, and the middle states more evenly divided.[42] Which brings us to the final question: How could this assessment be ignored, and even the repeated exposure of the misreading of the letter to Lloyd, while maintaining the minority myth?
American academia has become so fragmented that a specialist apparently does not now read much of what is written even in areas relatively near his own. That perhaps explains why more intellectuals have not come across the exposure of the misreading of the Adams letter. But it does not explain the obvious relish with which intellectuals have repeated the minority myth. The answer to that problem, I suspect, lies in the elitist assumptions that intellectuals have about social change. They rather like the notion that small minorities, like themselves, are the prime movers in history."
http://www.independent.org/publications/artic...
woof
the "learned historians" weren't there. And besides, how could you be "neutral"? What do you think the redcoats did when they wanted to board at someones home and the person said "No thanks, we're neutral"???
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#234 Apr 22, 2014
Oh boy. I see the wanna be idiot savants are gearing up.

woof
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#235 Apr 22, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
Oh boy. I see the wanna be idiot savants are gearing up.
woof
you are blindfolded and unable to see.

try again.

“I'm right”

Since: Oct 12

Rolla, MO

#236 Apr 22, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>5% to 70%

woof
Lol

“I'm right”

Since: Oct 12

Rolla, MO

#237 Apr 22, 2014
And that is why I'll go with the Historian's number. It's reasonable.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#238 Apr 22, 2014
killa_the_compassionate wrote:
And that is why I'll go with the Historian's number. It's reasonable.
You still don't get it do you?

The revolution wasn't a one day event. It took place over a period of 12-20 years, depending on where one assigns a start and finish date.

Do you think that a large percentage of colonists supported an armed revolution in 1763?

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#239 Apr 22, 2014
killa_the_compassionate wrote:
And that is why I'll go with the Historian's number. It's reasonable.
Which historian? They don't all agree. I've provided you stark evidence of that.

That's the point.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#240 Apr 22, 2014

“Meh.”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#241 Apr 22, 2014
killa_the_compassionate wrote:
And that is why I'll go with the Historian's number. It's reasonable.
My grandmum does the same thing with statistics. It's cute but strange.

"50% of people are against this new law!"

'Where did you get that number from, nan?'

"It just feels right"

'...'

Though she is starting to go a bit softheaded, so it's really to be forgiven.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#242 Apr 22, 2014
tranpsosition wrote:
<quoted text>
My grandmum does the same thing with statistics. It's cute but strange.
"50% of people are against this new law!"
'Where did you get that number from, nan?'
"It just feels right"
'...'
Though she is starting to go a bit softheaded, so it's really to be forgiven.


woof
Real Tea Party

Reynoldsburg, OH

#243 Apr 22, 2014
killa_the_compassionate wrote:
You libs are too easy....
There comes a point where every tax is too high. Ie: 100% income tax rate:
If many people pay the 100% income tax rate, does that make the one guy that doesn't based on principal a dead beat? What do you think the founders of our country would say?
There were many people in the past pay 100% income tax, called slaves.
Real Tea Party

Reynoldsburg, OH

#244 Apr 22, 2014
d pantz wrote:
<quoted text> as far as somebody in uniform with a gun coming to take you away, they're the same thing in this case.
I have no fear, being a law abiding citizen and pay all my taxes they cannot take me away. I am nonetheless having my money taken away to support others exploiting and mooching public properties, just like welfare recipient they are benefiting for service I am paying. And they have guns too in camouflage uniforms.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#245 Apr 22, 2014
Real Tea Party wrote:
<quoted text>
I have no fear, being a law abiding citizen and pay all my taxes they cannot take me away. I am nonetheless having my money taken away to support others exploiting and mooching public properties, just like welfare recipient they are benefiting for service I am paying. And they have guns too in camouflage uniforms.
In this case though, the country gets something back... STEAK!

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#247 Apr 22, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>
Is Bundy giving away the steak for free?
Nope, but you get a discount because he's not paying the grazing fees.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#248 Apr 22, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>
Is Bundy giving away the steak for free?
He's PRODUCING something, unlike welfare recipients.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#249 Apr 22, 2014
TonyD2 wrote:
<quoted text>
He's PRODUCING something, unlike welfare recipients.
I'm gonna get me some chickens and goats and cows and a little bit o barbed wire fence and set up shop down at the city park.

I figure City council won't mind. Its public land.

woof

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#250 Apr 22, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm gonna get me some chickens and goats and cows and a little bit o barbed wire fence and set up shop down at the city park.
I figure City council won't mind. Its public land.
woof
Check to see if it's zoned agricultural...

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