Court Battle to take out UNDER GOD in pledge

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“Bee Hive Jive”

Since: Apr 10

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#1 Sep 4, 2013
Reynoldsburger No Onion

Reynoldsburg, OH

#2 Sep 4, 2013
Fine with me. I haven't recited a pledge since "Meeska, Mooska, Mouseketeer, Mouse Cartoon time now is here."

“Paper Or Plastic?”

Since: Nov 11

Albakoikee

#4 Sep 4, 2013
Why not just do away with the entire pledge? If they are going to revise it, it takes away all the meaning our forefathers put into it.
Big Johnson

Columbus, OH

#5 Sep 4, 2013
It should not have been there in the first place.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#6 Sep 4, 2013
rowdy01 wrote:
Why not just do away with the entire pledge? If they are going to revise it, it takes away all the meaning our forefathers put into it.
Ummm...the forefathers had no input into that pledge whatsoever. You might want to look into that.

woof
Reynoldsburger No Onion

Reynoldsburg, OH

#7 Sep 4, 2013
rowdy01 wrote:
Why not just do away with the entire pledge? If they are going to revise it, it takes away all the meaning our forefathers put into it.
It was Truman, Eisenhower and the Knights of Columbus in 1954.
Enzyte Bob

Reynoldsburg, OH

#8 Sep 4, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Ummm...the forefathers had no input into that pledge whatsoever. You might want to look into that.
woof
The pledge refers to God, not a Christian God, not a Jewish God, not Hindu God, not a Muslim God ... simply God. And what is wrong with acknowledging that this nation was founded upon a God which the overwhelming majority of people believe in?

Since: Jan 13

Returning with a vengeance

#9 Sep 4, 2013
The Pledge is the product of a socialist, the whole thing should be gone.

Of course, that's not what the leftists want.
Reynoldsburger No Onion

Reynoldsburg, OH

#10 Sep 4, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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The pledge refers to God, not a Christian God, not a Jewish God, not Hindu God, not a Muslim God ... simply God. And what is wrong with acknowledging that this nation was founded upon a God which the overwhelming majority of people believe in?
And this god is doing what? Especially blessing us because we, in our humble opinion, are especially worthy?
Big Johnson

Columbus, OH

#11 Sep 4, 2013
Reynoldsburger No Onion wrote:
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And this god is doing what? Especially blessing us because we, in our humble opinion, are especially worthy?
Except on weekends, when he is busy deciding football games based on individual and team piety.
Enzyte Bob

Reynoldsburg, OH

#12 Sep 4, 2013
Reynoldsburger No Onion wrote:
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And this god is doing what? Especially blessing us because we, in our humble opinion, are especially worthy?
God gives people a point of reference, peace, comfort, a sense of humility and a sense that they should strive for something greater than selfish interests. What's wrong with paying homage to God, especially since 95% of the population believes in some kind of diety?

“Paper Or Plastic?”

Since: Nov 11

Albakoikee

#13 Sep 4, 2013
Reynoldsburger No Onion wrote:
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It was Truman, Eisenhower and the Knights of Columbus in 1954.
Sorry you are right. No research on my part. Those guys were my forefathers.
Reynoldsburger No Onion

Reynoldsburg, OH

#14 Sep 4, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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God gives people a point of reference, peace, comfort, a sense of humility and a sense that they should strive for something greater than selfish interests. What's wrong with paying homage to God, especially since 95% of the population believes in some kind of diety?
Source?

“Bee Hive Jive”

Since: Apr 10

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#15 Sep 4, 2013
Big Johnson wrote:
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Except on weekends, when he is busy deciding football games based on individual and team piety.
Lmao
That has to be the funniest statement you ever made
Love it!

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Albakoikee

#16 Sep 4, 2013
Reynoldsburger No Onion wrote:
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Source?
Religion gives structure to people's lives where in some cases there would be none,zero, especially in the southern United States. When my sister in law lived in Alabama, as a lark I looked for Baptist churches in the phone book. There were at least 30 in the Montgomery area alone.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#17 Sep 4, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
The Pledge is the product of a socialist, the whole thing should be gone.
Of course, that's not what the leftists want.
Please stop smoking pot Karl.

Or smoke more.

woof
Enzyte Bob

Reynoldsburg, OH

#18 Sep 4, 2013
rowdy01 wrote:
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Religion gives structure to people's lives where in some cases there would be none,zero, especially in the southern United States. When my sister in law lived in Alabama, as a lark I looked for Baptist churches in the phone book. There were at least 30 in the Montgomery area alone.
All you have to do is look at the statistics before 1960 and the ones after 1960. You pick the stat ... divorce, bastardy, drug and alcohol use, national debt, etc. Then tell me the baby boomers' hedonistic lifestyles are such great successes.

Then you might want to hit the history books and discover how Christianity came about ... it was a reaction against the religion of its day: PAGANISM. Christians were originally accused of being "athiests" because they didn't worship pagan Gods. Christianity grew fast because it emphasized personal responsibility and devotion to the family unit as the better way to live. Christianity was taken up by the activist types because of the destruction the hedonistic lifestyle was causing.

To that end, even the pagan Roman government passed a series of pro family laws in the century before Christ ... laws that would be considered "Christian" today ... before Christianity. Why? Because their pagan society was an absolute mess.

Finally, when you're done exploring these materials you may wish to use the little head God (or the chunk of "crystal" you pagans worship) gave you and tell me if you can name any endeavor in real life involving instant gratification that leads to financial or personal success. From exercise to financial planning ... no pain, no gain is where it's at. If instant gratification doesn't work in real life, why would you think it works in your personal life?
Enzyte Bob

Reynoldsburg, OH

#19 Sep 4, 2013
rowdy01 wrote:
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Religion gives structure to people's lives where in some cases there would be none,zero, especially in the southern United States. When my sister in law lived in Alabama, as a lark I looked for Baptist churches in the phone book. There were at least 30 in the Montgomery area alone.
As discussed before, not many people have the discipline to work for themselves. There are times when I don't have that discipline myself. If you need a boss to be productive at work, what makes you think that you don't need one in your personal life?

Repeat from the last post: The pagan Roman government passed a series of pro family laws in the century before Christ ... laws that would be considered to have "Christian" overtones today ... this was before Christianity. Why? Because their pagan society was an absolute mess and they wanted to encourage the family unit.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#20 Sep 4, 2013
rowdy01 wrote:
Why not just do away with the entire pledge? If they are going to revise it, it takes away all the meaning our forefathers put into it.
MOST.IGNORANT.POST.EVER.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#21 Sep 4, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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The pledge refers to God, not a Christian God, not a Jewish God, not Hindu God, not a Muslim God ... simply God. And what is wrong with acknowledging that this nation was founded upon a God which the overwhelming majority of people believe in?
You are right. We should change to "one nation under gods,"

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