Chavez Dead, Finally

Hugh Victor Thompson III

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#45 Mar 9, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you so oppose the principle of national sovereignty?
woof
Now that's projection. Do you support our member ship in the United Nations? How about amnesty for illegals? Of course you do. Now, tell me how either of those positions is indicative of caring about American national sovereignty.
As for Venezuela, when a country steals the property of our citizens, as Chavez did with American oil company assets, that country becomes an enemy. Had they purchased those assets at a mutually agreed-upon price, that would have been a different story.
The overthrow of Chavez would have been in the best interests of the United States and her citizens. That's all that matters.
You have a really hard time figuring out how things works in a geo-political sense, Dukie.

Hugh Victor Thompson III

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#46 Mar 9, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
You haven't read the Fifth Amendment, have you Paco?
woof
You interpret it as a license to steal. You've never heard of the atrocity known as Kelo v. New London, have you?
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#47 Mar 9, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>A disgrace of a citizen because you advocate the unconstitutional. Nationalization is theft.
Private industry is responsible for oil production and no matter the circumstances, the US government has to PAY for its oil like any other consumer. Standard Oil didn't hand it over for free in World War II.
Communists are enemies of the state. They always have been and always will be. Socialism is merely Communism "sold by the drink."
You're a sad little man, Dukie. You hate your own country.
Who owns all that oil?
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#48 Mar 9, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Now that's projection. Do you support our member ship in the United Nations? How about amnesty for illegals? Of course you do. Now, tell me how either of those positions is indicative of caring about American national sovereignty.
As for Venezuela, when a country steals the property of our citizens, as Chavez did with American oil company assets, that country becomes an enemy. Had they purchased those assets at a mutually agreed-upon price, that would have been a different story.
The overthrow of Chavez would have been in the best interests of the United States and her citizens. That's all that matters.
You have a really hard time figuring out how things works in a geo-political sense, Dukie.
Who's oil was that under the ground of Venezuela?

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

Ivy League-ISIS

#49 Mar 9, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>You interpret it as a license to steal. You've never heard of the atrocity known as Kelo v. New London, have you?
Duke, a Marxist, would agree with "all property is theft", so it's not stealing, what was already "stolen"

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

Ivy League-ISIS

#50 Mar 9, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Who owns all that oil?
Most oil in the world is owned by state-owned-oil companies.

Saudi Aramco
PDVSA
Lukoil
Gazprom

are examples
Wait what

Galion, OH

#51 Mar 9, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Who owns all that oil?
Was that part of the Pelosi fortune? I know they are rich because of oil. I just can't recall the companies in which they invested.

Hugh Victor Thompson III

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#52 Mar 9, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Who owns all that oil?
Not you. Not me. And not the government.
Who owns the crops in a farmer's field?

Hugh Victor Thompson III

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#53 Mar 9, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Who's oil was that under the ground of Venezuela?
The developer's, after negotiating and purchasing the drilling rights.
Are you really that dense?

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

Ivy League-ISIS

#54 Mar 9, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Who's oil was that under the ground of Venezuela?
ExxonMobil owned the mineral rights, Chavez demanded that all foreign oil interests give PDVSA majority control. ExxonMobil told them to pound salt, thus they were kicked out and their holdings nationalized.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#55 Mar 9, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
<quoted text>
Most oil in the world is owned by state-owned-oil companies.
Saudi Aramco
PDVSA
Lukoil
Gazprom
are examples
What about the United States?
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#56 Mar 9, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Now that's projection. Do you support our member ship in the United Nations? How about amnesty for illegals? Of course you do. Now, tell me how either of those positions is indicative of caring about American national sovereignty.
As for Venezuela, when a country steals the property of our citizens, as Chavez did with American oil company assets, that country becomes an enemy. Had they purchased those assets at a mutually agreed-upon price, that would have been a different story.
The overthrow of Chavez would have been in the best interests of the United States and her citizens. That's all that matters.
You have a really hard time figuring out how things works in a geo-political sense, Dukie.
You apparently have a problem with small, resource rich nations executing self governance if they don't kow tow to Washington.

That's really a shame. Hardly surprising though.

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-01-01...

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#57 Mar 9, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
<quoted text>
ExxonMobil owned the mineral rights, Chavez demanded that all foreign oil interests give PDVSA majority control. ExxonMobil told them to pound salt, thus they were kicked out and their holdings nationalized.
Maybe you should research the term "concession" as it relates to this subject.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#58 Mar 9, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>You interpret it as a license to steal. You've never heard of the atrocity known as Kelo v. New London, have you?
Why do you feel as if you can speak for me?

I asked if you've read the Fifth Amendment, because you claimed that the government cannot take private property under the US Constitution.

Setting the atrocity of Kelo completely aside, you're full of crap, and you know it.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#59 Mar 9, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Who's oil was that under the ground of Venezuela?
Apparently, Paco believes Exxon et al do.

Unfortunately, he is sadly mistaken. For all of his warts, and there are many, Chavez clearly understood who rightfully owned it.

woof

Hugh Victor Thompson III

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#60 Mar 9, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
You apparently have a problem with small, resource rich nations executing self governance if they don't kow tow to Washington.
That's really a shame. Hardly surprising though.
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-01-01...
woof
Kuwait and Saudi Arabia kowtow to Washington...how?

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#61 Mar 9, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
You haven't read the Fifth Amendment, have you Paco?
woof
I have. It ends with "without just compensation".

Hugh Victor Thompson III

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#62 Mar 9, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you feel as if you can speak for me?
I asked if you've read the Fifth Amendment, because you claimed that the government cannot take private property under the US Constitution.
Setting the atrocity of Kelo completely aside, you're full of crap, and you know it.
woof
It can't take it without compensation, moron. Do you honestly think the oil industry could ever be properly compensated? Not a chance.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#63 Mar 9, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
<quoted text>
Most oil in the world is owned by state-owned-oil companies.
Saudi Aramco
PDVSA
Lukoil
Gazprom
are examples
What most don't realize is that we're not really paying for the oil, but for the labor used in getting it out of the ground and refining (plus profit along the way, of course).
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#64 Mar 9, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>The developer's, after negotiating and purchasing the drilling rights.
Are you really that dense?
Aaaahhh...therein lies the rub huh Paco? You don't fully comprehend that issue, do you?

woof

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