Andy

United States

#564 Sep 9, 2013
No

“Zuzu's Petals”

Since: Sep 10

Bedford Falls

#565 Sep 10, 2013
Real Tea Party wrote:
<quoted text>
They are not, our military industrial complex needs an imaginary enemy so our government can convince our people to justify their shopping spree on weapons to feed the contractors.
Plus the RINOs who really think we should go to every fking country so we can be safe.
If you listen to the Democrats talk, you would think that they were Saints. Well I'm going to name
some wars that the Democrats have started or gotten America involved in.

1. Democrat got America in the Vietnam War.
A. Democrat President John Kennedy sent money and advisors to South Vietnam.
B. Democrat president Lyndon Johnson sent American troops into Vietnam.
C. 2 Million people died in the Vietnam war.
4. 58,000 Americans died in Vietnam, and another 350,000 were injured.

2. Democrats got America involved in the Korean war.
A. It was Democrat president Harry Truman that sent Americans to fight in the Korean war.
B. 33,000 Americans were killed in that war.

3. Democrats used nuclear weapons on Japan.
A. It was Democrat president Harry Truman that dropped 2 nuclear bombs on innocent
women and children in Japan, killing over 200,000 innocent civilians.

4. Democrats got America involved in World War 1.
A. It was Democrat president Woodrow Wilson that got America involved in World War 1.
B. 37 million people died in that war.
C. 117,000 Americans were killed in that war.

5. Democrats got America involved in World War 2.
A. It was Democrat president Franklin Roosevelt that got America involved in World War 2.
B. 70 million people died in that war.
C. 406,000 Americans died in that war.

6. Democrats started the Bay of Pigs.
A. It was Democrat president John F Kennedy that started the Bay of Pigs, which was a war
against Cuba.

7. Democrats bombed Libya.
A. It was Democrat president Barack Obama that bombed Libya killing 1000's of innocent women and children.

“Bullsh*% Detector Enabled”

Since: Dec 08

Brooklyn, New York

#566 Sep 10, 2013
Diamond Eugene wrote:
<quoted text>If you're ten.
You know that was funny. Quitchabitchin'.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#569 Sep 11, 2013
Zoe Regen wrote:
<quoted text>
If you listen to the Democrats talk, you would think that they were Saints. Well I'm going to name
some wars that the Democrats have started or gotten America involved in.
1. Democrat got America in the Vietnam War.
A. Democrat President John Kennedy sent money and advisors to South Vietnam.
B. Democrat president Lyndon Johnson sent American troops into Vietnam.
C. 2 Million people died in the Vietnam war.
4. 58,000 Americans died in Vietnam, and another 350,000 were injured.
2. Democrats got America involved in the Korean war.
A. It was Democrat president Harry Truman that sent Americans to fight in the Korean war.
B. 33,000 Americans were killed in that war.
3. Democrats used nuclear weapons on Japan.
A. It was Democrat president Harry Truman that dropped 2 nuclear bombs on innocent
women and children in Japan, killing over 200,000 innocent civilians.
4. Democrats got America involved in World War 1.
A. It was Democrat president Woodrow Wilson that got America involved in World War 1.
B. 37 million people died in that war.
C. 117,000 Americans were killed in that war.
5. Democrats got America involved in World War 2.
A. It was Democrat president Franklin Roosevelt that got America involved in World War 2.
B. 70 million people died in that war.
C. 406,000 Americans died in that war.
6. Democrats started the Bay of Pigs.
A. It was Democrat president John F Kennedy that started the Bay of Pigs, which was a war
against Cuba.
7. Democrats bombed Libya.
A. It was Democrat president Barack Obama that bombed Libya killing 1000's of innocent women and children.
Nate would take exception to your claim that we dropped nuclear bombs on Japan.
Pale Rider

AOL

#571 Sep 11, 2013
bosco wrote:
<quoted text>Part time jobs don't jumpstart the economy.
It sure beats sending over 800 companies to China.

It sure beats losing 850,000 jobs a month, as we saw under George W. Bush.
Osama

Columbus, OH

#573 Sep 11, 2013
He's a jackass. An embarrassment to the Country and its people.
Duke

Knoxville, TN

#574 Sep 11, 2013
Neutral Party wrote:
My dad told me democrats get us in wars, republicans get us out.
Dad was a smart man.
Yes, I agree with that
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#576 Sep 11, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Nate would take exception to your claim that we dropped nuclear bombs on Japan.
Paco's always right ya know. Annie says so.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#577 Sep 11, 2013
Osama wrote:
He's a jackass. An embarrassment to the Country and its people.
I've been saying that about Paco for a long time.

Welcome aboard!!!

woof

Since: Jun 13

Hilliard, OH

#578 Sep 11, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
I've been saying that about Paco for a long time.
Welcome aboard!!!
woof
Now I've seen it all...douche calling Obama a silly name.
There's hope for him yet.
Pale Rider

AOL

#579 Sep 11, 2013
Who remembers a man that was on a -- was it a watch? Six (6) long minutes, and the man sat on a stool, waiting, waiting, waiting. While the world watched in horror. Waiting, I suppose waiting for -- OH No! His V.P. to call him, tell him what to do. Finally the Secret service, told him Mr. President, we have to get you to a secure area. Come on, Cheney, doesn't know what to do. Maybe if you get on the plane, someone will call and tell you.

Can anyone imagine if those were a few ICBM coming in at 15000 MPH? And we had a President sitting completely dumbfounded, minute after minute. It is a good thing it didn't happen at 3:00 AM.
Pale Rider

AOL

#580 Sep 11, 2013
How many of you have watched an implosion on TV? Tell me the difference in North Tower and South Tower, didn't that look like an implosion? How many airplanes would it take to bring them down? I bet the Policemen, were told, you will be safe if you go in. Jet fuel, does not burn that hot, to bring those buildings down.

Since: Jun 13

Hilliard, OH

#581 Sep 11, 2013
Pale Rider wrote:
Who remembers a man that was on a -- was it a watch? Six (6) long minutes, and the man sat on a stool, waiting, waiting, waiting. While the world watched in horror. Waiting, I suppose waiting for -- OH No! His V.P. to call him, tell him what to do. Finally the Secret service, told him Mr. President, we have to get you to a secure area. Come on, Cheney, doesn't know what to do. Maybe if you get on the plane, someone will call and tell you.
Can anyone imagine if those were a few ICBM coming in at 15000 MPH? And we had a President sitting completely dumbfounded, minute after minute. It is a good thing it didn't happen at 3:00 AM.
Speaking of someone sitting scared, clueless and indecisive, not to mention MISSING:

Now that President Barack Obama’s former body man and still companion Reggie Love has let it out that Obama was playing cards during part of the raid in Abbottabad, Pakistan that killed al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, can he tell us where the president was on the night four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens were killed in Benghazi?

“’...Most people were like down in the Situation Room and [President Obama] was like,“I’m not going to be down there, I can’t watch this entire thing,”’ Love recalled of the May 2011 raid during a forum hosted by the D.C.-based Artists & Athletes Alliance in Los Angeles last month.”(Weekly Standard, Aug. 14, 2013).
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/arti...

Since: Jun 13

Hilliard, OH

#582 Sep 11, 2013
Pale Rider wrote:
How many of you have watched an implosion on TV? Tell me the difference in North Tower and South Tower, didn't that look like an implosion? How many airplanes would it take to bring them down? I bet the Policemen, were told, you will be safe if you go in. Jet fuel, does not burn that hot, to bring those buildings down.
LIAR:

FACT: Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength—and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."

"Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent." NIST also believes that a great deal of the spray-on fireproofing insulation was likely knocked off the steel beams that were in the path of the crashing jets, leaving the metal more vulnerable to the heat.

But jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning, notes Forman Williams, a professor of engineering at the University of California, San Diego, and one of seven structural engineers and fire experts that PM consulted. He says that while the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper. NIST reports that pockets of fire hit 1832°F.

"The jet fuel was the ignition source," Williams tells PM. "It burned for maybe 10 minutes, and [the towers] were still standing in 10 minutes. It was the rest of the stuff burning afterward that was responsible for the heat transfer that eventually brought them down."

Read more: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories - Debunking the Myths - World Trade Center - Popular Mechanics
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d pantz

United States

#583 Sep 11, 2013
Diamond Eugene wrote:
<quoted text>LIAR:
FACT: Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength—and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."
"Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent." NIST also believes that a great deal of the spray-on fireproofing insulation was likely knocked off the steel beams that were in the path of the crashing jets, leaving the metal more vulnerable to the heat.
But jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning, notes Forman Williams, a professor of engineering at the University of California, San Diego, and one of seven structural engineers and fire experts that PM consulted. He says that while the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper. NIST reports that pockets of fire hit 1832°F.
"The jet fuel was the ignition source," Williams tells PM. "It burned for maybe 10 minutes, and [the towers] were still standing in 10 minutes. It was the rest of the stuff burning afterward that was responsible for the heat transfer that eventually brought them down."
Read more: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories - Debunking the Myths - World Trade Center - Popular Mechanics
Follow us:@PopMech on Twitter | popularmechanics on Facebook
Visit us at PopularMechanics.com
then why all the metal slag?? Melts at 800 C max, whereas steel only begins to have its yield strength lowered significantly around 600 C, and that's when the STEEL is 600 C, NOT the fire. To get the steel that hot requires the fire to be hotter than that, and it also requires a length of time for the necessary heat to actually transfer. None of the things you list could melt steel just by burning on their own.
Pale Rider

AOL

#584 Sep 11, 2013
You have picked the finest from downtown Louisville. He loves the West End, that is where he lives, in an old run down doublewide. He has to depend on his Son to haul him and his 400 lb. wife around. Neutral has a moped to ride around town, looking for someone to give him a drink of cheap wine. You know all about that, do you mind if I call you Stu?

Here is the scoop Stu. Johnny (Neutral Party) has a Son, named Johnathan that helps take care of him. If it wasn't for Johnathan, Neutral would have expired a few years back. He got him out of the dumps in the West End about 28th street. But he went back. Johnny needs help, he is broke. Why don't you take him up on his trade proposal? You will get a fat woman, an old run down double wide. Now you will have to make arrangements to move it, on your dollar. Or you might like it in Louisville, it is better than where you reside Stu. Johnny loves it down there. He loves his Son. His Son got him a few jobs, but he can't keep a job, he goes to work drunk. He can't keep a job. The man is a habitual liar, a man like you. Have you ever been on a C-5? I have been up the 19' ladder to the cockpit. There are sleeping quarters down the hall from the cockpit. A small kitchen area, commode. Also behind the wings above the cargo area, is a seating area for 77. It burns 300 gallons of Jet fuel on takeoff. Burns 20,30000 lbs while flying. It can take off empty in a fraction over 4200 feet. One travels with the President. I know what is on board. But no use telling you, you already know. There isn't anything you don't know is there? You tell your share of lies, that I do know. I wish I could say Johnny taught you, but he was a liar, long before he followed me to Columbus. Both of you lie, and the other will back it up. Aren't you glad I know my way around Columbus, Mansfield, Toledo, Cleveland, Zanesville, Dover, Bowling Green, Springfield, Dayton, the Queen City, Portsmouth, Plain City, I bet I know more about Ohio, than you do Stu. You are the know nothing Stu. I take that back, which of you are the most destitute. Is it a toss up? No, I think Johnny has that edge.

A little off topic Stu.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#588 Sep 12, 2013
RU_Kiddingme wrote:
What's 9/11 without a few good conspiracy theories? Nate and Panties - birds of a feather
Remember Nate's Conspiracy Theory Rule; 9/11 conspiracy theorists are insane, Sandy Hook shooting conspiracy theorists are brilliant and inquisitive.

Since: Jun 13

Hilliard, OH

#589 Sep 12, 2013
RU_Kiddingme wrote:
What's 9/11 without a few good conspiracy theories? Nate and Panties - birds of a feather
Show me any post where I promote or agree with any 9/11 Truther nonsense.

Since: Jun 13

Hilliard, OH

#590 Sep 12, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Remember Nate's Conspiracy Theory Rule; 9/11 conspiracy theorists are insane, Sandy Hook shooting conspiracy theorists are brilliant and inquisitive.
More or less.
I also don't buy the Warren Commission report.

Since: Jun 13

Hilliard, OH

#591 Sep 12, 2013
d pantz wrote:
<quoted text> then why all the metal slag?? Melts at 800 C max, whereas steel only begins to have its yield strength lowered significantly around 600 C, and that's when the STEEL is 600 C, NOT the fire. To get the steel that hot requires the fire to be hotter than that, and it also requires a length of time for the necessary heat to actually transfer. None of the things you list could melt steel just by burning on their own.
From the article:

"But jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning, notes Forman Williams, a professor of engineering at the University of California, San Diego, and one of seven structural engineers and fire experts that PM consulted. He says that while the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper. NIST reports that pockets of fire hit 1832°F."

That's 1000 degrees Celsius.

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