Should students learn cursive? Some s...

Should students learn cursive? Some states say yes

There are 126 comments on the Coshocton Tribune story from Nov 14, 2013, titled Should students learn cursive? Some states say yes. In it, Coshocton Tribune reports that:

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- The swirling lines from Linden Bateman's pen have been conscripted into a national fight to keep cursive writing in American classrooms.

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see the light

El Paso, TX

#61 Nov 17, 2013
Hello wrote:
<quoted text> I agree, it's because the teachers that teach our children are more interested in how much they are making per hour, they don't give a crap about teaching our children. Why is it so hard to teach our children cursive and printing?( it's not hard) It's very important. It's because the teachers will have to work a little bit harder. They want lots of money for absolutely nothing that's why. The school systems in America disgust me.
No it's the kids and their dumb azz parent's. If you'd pay attention to your'e kids maybe you'd know they can't read nor write. Get them a tutor, better yet-you should put a camera in the room and let it record so you can see how your kid behaves. You'd be changing your'e words.
sidekick

Columbus, OH

#62 Nov 17, 2013
see the light wrote:
<quoted text>No, it's not the teachers. They go above and beyond their duty in trying to teach these kids. It's the kids who do't want to learn and sit and play with their dam phones.
It is a mix of things. I'm only saying the more eyes on the child's progress, the better.
Would you work different if your boss was watching or never around? Almost everyone I've noticed works a lot harder when they're around. And who is that child's main boss? The parent(s).

On the other distraction... Yeah, the phone and internet era seems to be a big culprit in peoples focus towards real life interactions. I've seen kids texting a certain person, then when they meet up, they start texting another person. Unbelievable amounts of time on phones.
Who

Wyoming, MI

#63 Nov 17, 2013
You lazy union teachers are already getting away with not teaching kids the true versions of history or anything other subject, they don't know how to do simple mathematics, most of them can't make change, most can't read when they "graduate", and when they're in school you've got them on computers 'googling' the information you're supposed to being teaching them.

The majority of them can barely make a complete sentence. They just keep turning out braindead morons that eventually end up on "The Tonight Show's Jaywalking", "Jerry Springer", "Maury", and/or "The Test" looking like the uneducated dolts they are.

So my question to teachers is - what do we need you for?

You want to keep doing less, our kids are getting dumber, and you greedy bastards have the audacity to demand more money for doing nothing.

So again, WHAT THE HELL ARE WE PAYING YOU FOR!?!?

“THE GANG”

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#64 Nov 18, 2013
Who wrote:
You lazy union teachers are already getting away with not teaching kids the true versions of history or anything other subject, they don't know how to do simple mathematics, most of them can't make change, most can't read when they "graduate", and when they're in school you've got them on computers 'googling' the information you're supposed to being teaching them.
The majority of them can barely make a complete sentence. They just keep turning out braindead morons that eventually end up on "The Tonight Show's Jaywalking", "Jerry Springer", "Maury", and/or "The Test" looking like the uneducated dolts they are.
So my question to teachers is - what do we need you for?
You want to keep doing less, our kids are getting dumber, and you greedy bastards have the audacity to demand more money for doing nothing.
So again, WHAT THE HELL ARE WE PAYING YOU FOR!?!?
And what the hell did you have kids if you're not going to guide them in the right direction?
Teachers are mandated by state cirriculum and that's the way it is. The state mandated they teach the kids how to take a state test and that's their focus. Now the COMMON CORE will be implemented throughout the country,45 states, will be doing the same thing daily in the classroom.
When kids don't have the support and backing of their parents the kid's behavior is evident in school. Some parents feel like you, leave everything to the teachers. Parents should be the child's advocate and help with homework, attend parent teacher conferences. But some don't and this shows in the kids attitude.
There are a lot of parents who believe the teacher is a babysitter. She can only do so much because if there are unruly kids in the class,disrupting daily, how can the teachers do their jobs, and teach the kids who do want to learn.
Parenting kids comes from the HOME first. Phones and or electronic devises should not be in the classrooms but that has changed rapidly. Kids seem to be getting lazier as far as thinking for themselves,because the iPads do their thinking for them.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#65 Nov 18, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
If cursive is so important, why can't you read a doctor's handwritten prescription?
woof
say what you want about cursive.

I remember distinctly the cursive special paper with lines to help make the correct loops & shapes. Had to hold the pencil correctly, and keep letters perfectly in the lines or see red pen marks all over the page.

Critical thinks skills were developed.

Now if you told me Spanish was replacing cursive in schools because it was more relevant for today's world, I would tend to agree completely.

Remember that cursive is a learned skill. We seem to be running at light speed away from teaching skills of any kind, and the only reason I can figure is a deliberate attempt to dumb society down for political purposes.

As technology eliminates employment positions our parents and grandparents with out college educations earned their living and raised all of us..........now machines have replaced those jobs.

Now more than ever education is critical for marketable skills because assembly workers and general labor is automated. A necessary workforce 66% smaller today than 50 years ago out produces with efficiency, quality, and technology.

Possibly computer programming should replace cursive writing class in school?

“THE GANG”

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#66 Nov 18, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
say what you want about cursive.
I remember distinctly the cursive special paper with lines to help make the correct loops & shapes. Had to hold the pencil correctly, and keep letters perfectly in the lines or see red pen marks all over the page.
Critical thinks skills were developed.
Now if you told me Spanish was replacing cursive in schools because it was more relevant for today's world, I would tend to agree completely.
Remember that cursive is a learned skill. We seem to be running at light speed away from teaching skills of any kind, and the only reason I can figure is a deliberate attempt to dumb society down for political purposes.
As technology eliminates employment positions our parents and grandparents with out college educations earned their living and raised all of us..........now machines have replaced those jobs.
Now more than ever education is critical for marketable skills because assembly workers and general labor is automated. A necessary workforce 66% smaller today than 50 years ago out produces with efficiency, quality, and technology.
Possibly computer programming should replace cursive writing class in school?
I'm putting myself out here by saying. When I was in grade school, the teacher went around correcting everyone's form of writing, letter structure, and posture. I learned from a pen and inkwell. Try writing with that! To this day, I love to write, have a pretty good handwriting skill. I write letters, cards,documents,diaries, memories....all on paper with a pen or pencil. It's a great way to enhance ones own style and makes one more creative in thought, than typing can ever do. I say cursive should stay. Whatever one learns is to their own benefit. There's nothing more endearing than to receive a letter or postcard hand written!
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#67 Nov 18, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
say what you want about cursive.
I remember distinctly the cursive special paper with lines to help make the correct loops & shapes. Had to hold the pencil correctly, and keep letters perfectly in the lines or see red pen marks all over the page.
Critical thinks skills were developed.
Yes, they most certainly were.
no

Oklahoma City, OK

#68 Nov 18, 2013
BizzyBee wrote:
<quoted text>Sounds like that's something you would do.
No, silly, ASAP
not all people have time to keep up with everything. A teacher has more responsibilities than just teaching. I know a kid who dropped out because his teachers were lazy and rude. Teachers do not deserve as much credit as there being given
Rambeaux

Philadelphia, PA

#69 Nov 18, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
say what you want about cursive.
I remember distinctly the cursive special paper with lines to help make the correct loops & shapes. Had to hold the pencil correctly, and keep letters perfectly in the lines or see red pen marks all over the page.
Critical thinks skills were developed.
Now if you told me Spanish was replacing cursive in schools because it was more relevant for today's world, I would tend to agree completely.
Remember that cursive is a learned skill. We seem to be running at light speed away from teaching skills of any kind, and the only reason I can figure is a deliberate attempt to dumb society down for political purposes.
As technology eliminates employment positions our parents and grandparents with out college educations earned their living and raised all of us..........now machines have replaced those jobs.
Now more than ever education is critical for marketable skills because assembly workers and general labor is automated. A necessary workforce 66% smaller today than 50 years ago out produces with efficiency, quality, and technology.
Possibly computer programming should replace cursive writing class in school?
In the old days of "snail mail" cursive was the way people communicated with each other (unless a typewriter was involved).
wiseamerican

Columbus, OH

#70 Nov 18, 2013
Hello wrote:
I think most teachers are lazy ( not all) and there for a paycheck. When my son was fourteen years old he sat down at the kitchen table and started crying and asked me if I would teach him how to write. We started out with the ABC's, Why hadn't he learned how to write when he had gone to school for at least eight years? Something went wrong somewhere and I believe it was the school system. I home schooled him after that and he graduated on time. My son's reading and comprehension level was better than average but I had to teach him how to write.
YOU ARE THE PROBLEM! And parents who think like you. Why wait all those years to send a child to total strangers and hope your child is being educated?!!! WTF! That very attitude is what's wrong with the urban school districts, THE PARENTS AREN'T TEACHING THEIR CHILDREN. My kid was 2 years old when I put A PEN in that little hand and taught how to hold it, by age 3 the entire name was spelled, pictures drawn, coloring inside the lines, A through Z alphabets, all eight basic colors, with silver, gold, tan, added, and could count to 20!
It's the parent(s) fault 98%, not the teachers.
Get off your lazy ass and educate your kid!
wiseamerican

Columbus, OH

#71 Nov 18, 2013
BizzyBee wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm putting myself out here by saying. When I was in grade school, the teacher went around correcting everyone's form of writing, letter structure, and posture. I learned from a pen and inkwell. Try writing with that! To this day, I love to write, have a pretty good handwriting skill. I write letters, cards,documents,diaries, memories....all on paper with a pen or pencil. It's a great way to enhance ones own style and makes one more creative in thought, than typing can ever do. I say cursive should stay. Whatever one learns is to their own benefit. There's nothing more endearing than to receive a letter or postcard hand written!
Did you ever meet Abraham Lincoln? Tell us about the horse and buggies and the oil street lamps, maw maw!
sidekick

Columbus, OH

#72 Nov 18, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
say what you want about cursive.
As technology eliminates employment positions our parents and grandparents with out college educations earned their living and raised all of us..........now machines have replaced those jobs.
Now more than ever education is critical for marketable skills because assembly workers and general labor is automated. A necessary workforce 66% smaller today than 50 years ago out produces with efficiency, quality, and technology.
Possibly computer programming should replace cursive writing class in school?
It's hard to say how much we're going to rely on technology as the years go on. I was in high school when then first computers were introduced on the market. I remember working on an IBM in school and getting the first Macintosh for Christmas. http://www.gefuso.com/wp-content/uploads/2012... .
However, I still enjoyed having my grandmother helping me with history, my mom on Literature, my older brother with math and my older sister on art lessons. Now, Google and apps seem to replace it all (for most of us), in a nut-shell.
Who

Wyoming, MI

#73 Nov 18, 2013
BizzyBee wrote:
<quoted text>
And what the hell did you have kids if you're not going to guide them in the right direction?
Teachers are mandated by state cirriculum and that's the way it is. The state mandated they teach the kids how to take a state test and that's their focus. Now the COMMON CORE will be implemented throughout the country,45 states, will be doing the same thing daily in the classroom.
When kids don't have the support and backing of their parents the kid's behavior is evident in school. Some parents feel like you, leave everything to the teachers. Parents should be the child's advocate and help with homework, attend parent teacher conferences. But some don't and this shows in the kids attitude.
There are a lot of parents who believe the teacher is a babysitter. She can only do so much because if there are unruly kids in the class,disrupting daily, how can the teachers do their jobs, and teach the kids who do want to learn.
Parenting kids comes from the HOME first. Phones and or electronic devises should not be in the classrooms but that has changed rapidly. Kids seem to be getting lazier as far as thinking for themselves,because the iPads do their thinking for them.
I agree with you, you're absolutely right.

BUT...

Why aren't these kids learning reading, writing, mathematics, geography, etc?

If kids are going to be allowed to dink around with their phones all day, texting and so forth, or spending the day looking stuff up on google, then why do we need the overpaid teachers and their worthless union shills?

They could just stay home and do those things, which is what they do anyhow.

Why aren't teachers making these kids 'check their phones at the door'? Obviously computers are another story as those are in the classroom anyhow.

Liberals are always talking about "state testing" and loads of other testing, how are any of these morons passing these "tests" so the schools can recieve funding? They're just too stupid.

Unless, and we all know this is what's really going on, either these so-called "tests" are rigged or you teachers are giving them the answers. Which is it?

I find it hard to believe that schools keep getting the funding they need when the majority of these dolts don't have any idea that Thomas Alva Edison invented the light bulb, the phonograph, the film projector, etc or that Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone, or the names of the presidents, or even the names of all 50 states and their capitals, or the Constitution, or Bill of Rights, or the Gettyburg Address. Common knowledge that all people should know WITHOUT using google.

But they all know what facebook and twitter are don't they? They all know who judge Judy is.

Not to mention that if liberals had their way, kids would be eating breakfast, lunch, and dinner at school because they assume that ALL parents are too stupid to feed their kids, and most are.

But whose fault is that?

Parents today are same dolts the schools started turning out after liberals and their socialist mantra of "leveling the playing field" started dumbing the classrooms down the least common denominator. And we all know who I'm referring to.

So now we have to rely on teachers doing their job even more because liberals have created the scenario that parents are too stupid to teach their own children, but now you're telling me it's the parents fault.

Don't bullshit me. I'm NOT the typical 'average joe' on the street that doesn't know anything.

So my question is still - what the hell do we need any of them for if their not going to do their damn jobs?

“THE GANG”

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#74 Nov 18, 2013
no wrote:
<quoted text>
not all people have time to keep up with everything. A teacher has more responsibilities than just teaching. I know a kid who dropped out because his teachers were lazy and rude. Teachers do not deserve as much credit as there being given
Well, if people don't have the time for kids, then don't have any! It's as simple as that!
I am full aware what teachers duties are. They work well beyond the hours of a classroom.
Before anyone dropped out of school, wouldn't you think the parents would have stepped in...you would think, anyways!
The attitude of parents are passed on to the kid, so the parents may have had a negative attitude.
Kids live what they learn!

“THE GANG”

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#75 Nov 18, 2013
Who wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you, you're absolutely right.
BUT...
Why aren't these kids learning reading, writing, mathematics, geography, etc?
If kids are going to be allowed to dink around with their phones all day, texting and so forth, or spending the day looking stuff up on google, then why do we need the overpaid teachers and their worthless union shills?
They could just stay home and do those things, which is what they do anyhow.
Why aren't teachers making these kids 'check their phones at the door'? Obviously computers are another story as those are in the classroom anyhow.
Liberals are always talking about "state testing" and loads of other testing, how are any of these morons passing these "tests" so the schools can recieve funding? They're just too stupid.
Unless, and we all know this is what's really going on, either these so-called "tests" are rigged or you teachers are giving them the answers. Which is it?
I find it hard to believe that schools keep getting the funding they need when the majority of these dolts don't have any idea that Thomas Alva Edison invented the light bulb, the phonograph, the film projector, etc or that Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone, or the names of the presidents, or even the names of all 50 states and their capitals, or the Constitution, or Bill of Rights, or the Gettyburg Address. Common knowledge that all people should know WITHOUT using google.
But they all know what facebook and twitter are don't they? They all know who judge Judy is.
Not to mention that if liberals had their way, kids would be eating breakfast, lunch, and dinner at school because they assume that ALL parents are too stupid to feed their kids, and most are.
But whose fault is that?
Parents today are same dolts the schools started turning out after liberals and their socialist mantra of "leveling the playing field" started dumbing the classrooms down the least common denominator. And we all know who I'm referring to.
So now we have to rely on teachers doing their job even more because liberals have created the scenario that parents are too stupid to teach their own children, but now you're telling me it's the parents fault.
Don't bullshit me. I'm NOT the typical 'average joe' on the street that doesn't know anything.
So my question is still - what the hell do we need any of them for if their not going to do their damn jobs?
First of all, this just isn't a liberal, or conservative problem. This is a nation wide problem, period.
Depending on the school system in your location, if things are not going right, the PARENTS need to bond and have a meeting with the school board. Leaving bad attitudes and name calling at the door please!
We pay tax dollars and if they are not keeping up their end of the bargain, you as a group, can threaten not to vote for anymore levies until changes are made to improve! Squeaky wheel gets the oil! Money talks, especially when it comes to school boards.

“THE GANG”

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#76 Nov 18, 2013
wiseamerican wrote:
<quoted text> Did you ever meet Abraham Lincoln? Tell us about the horse and buggies and the oil street lamps, maw maw!
HA HA HA!
I'm not that old twit!
And your name certainly isn't indicative of your comment!
=~}

“Where did I put my tiara?”

Since: Dec 11

Lewis Center, OH

#77 Nov 18, 2013
BizzyBee wrote:
<quoted text>
A pharmacist can read it....that's all that's needed.
Nope, disagree. You had better know what the script is supposed to read. Manage your own healthcare, you can never have too many fail safes, don't be afraid to question.

“Where did I put my tiara?”

Since: Dec 11

Lewis Center, OH

#78 Nov 18, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
<quoted text>
You realize now that an overwhelming majority of scripts now are electronically delivered to pharmacies now? Physicians were required by law to use electronic records.
For written, you also realize the prescribing physician must also be identified in print, with phone and address?
Keefers, like mistakes can't happen via electronics.

“Where did I put my tiara?”

Since: Dec 11

Lewis Center, OH

#79 Nov 18, 2013
BizzyBee wrote:
<quoted text>
First of all, this just isn't a liberal, or conservative problem. This is a nation wide problem, period.
Depending on the school system in your location, if things are not going right, the PARENTS need to bond and have a meeting with the school board. Leaving bad attitudes and name calling at the door please!
We pay tax dollars and if they are not keeping up their end of the bargain, you as a group, can threaten not to vote for anymore levies until changes are made to improve! Squeaky wheel gets the oil! Money talks, especially when it comes to school boards.
Agree. Too much pointing the blame finger at someone else; whether that is the teacher, parent, government, etc. LG can write in cursive, takes pride in her printed text too. Let's refocus on who deserves praise for that...parent and teacher.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#80 Nov 18, 2013
BizzyBee wrote:
<quoted text>
First of all, this just isn't a liberal, or conservative problem. This is a nation wide problem, period.
Depending on the school system in your location, if things are not going right, the PARENTS need to bond and have a meeting with the school board. Leaving bad attitudes and name calling at the door please!
We pay tax dollars and if they are not keeping up their end of the bargain, you as a group, can threaten not to vote for anymore levies until changes are made to improve! Squeaky wheel gets the oil! Money talks, especially when it comes to school boards.
Have you looked into what has happened in the past several years with the state school board in Ohio?

You should. Interesting articles in the Beacon Journal the past few days.

The DeRolph decisons have been effectively emasculated by the GOP.

woof

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