Homeless Man Shoeless Again in NYC De...

Homeless Man Shoeless Again in NYC Despite Boots

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“animis opibusque parati”

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#1 Dec 3, 2012
Anyone surprised?

**Don't forget to drop off your charitable food and Christmas gift donations on the way to or from WORK this week.**/s

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From the AP:

The New York City homeless man - whose gift of boots from an NYPD police officer became an online sensation - is back on the streets with no shoes.

The New York Times [link] found him Sunday night wandering barefoot in Manhattan. The paper identified him as Jeffrey Hillman, formerly of South Plainfield, N.J.

Asked about the $100 all-weather boots Officer Larry DePrimo gave him on Nov. 14, Hillman says he's hidden them because "they are worth a lot of money."

He says he's grateful for the gift, but he wants "a piece of the pie" because the photo was posted online "without permission."

An Arizona tourist snapped the photo of the officer presenting new boots to Hillman. It went viral after it was posted on the NYPD's Facebook page.

“animis opibusque parati”

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#2 Dec 3, 2012
Oliver Twist

Springfield, OH

#4 Dec 3, 2012
-tip- wrote:
Anyone surprised?
**Don't forget to drop off your charitable food and Christmas gift donations on the way to or from WORK this week.**/s
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From the AP:
The New York City homeless man - whose gift of boots from an NYPD police officer became an online sensation - is back on the streets with no shoes.
The New York Times [link] found him Sunday night wandering barefoot in Manhattan. The paper identified him as Jeffrey Hillman, formerly of South Plainfield, N.J.
Asked about the $100 all-weather boots Officer Larry DePrimo gave him on Nov. 14, Hillman says he's hidden them because "they are worth a lot of money."
He says he's grateful for the gift, but he wants "a piece of the pie" because the photo was posted online "without permission."
An Arizona tourist snapped the photo of the officer presenting new boots to Hillman. It went viral after it was posted on the NYPD's Facebook page.
No one should be surprised.

There is a reason some people are at the socio-economic bottom of not only this society, but every society on earth.

“Don't trust the internet!”

Since: Jan 12

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#5 Dec 3, 2012
OMG, you mean he didn't use those boots to turn his life around?

Oliver Twist is right, there is a reason the man is at the bottom of the socio-economic scale. It's because that is how we prioritize those with mental impairments, those with addictions and those who don't rank highly as "consumers." Oh, and a surprising number of our returning veterans fall onto the same trash heap.

Those who are poor are pretty much like the rest of us. Some are doggoned rude, unappreciative and prefer making their own choices with the things that become their property. Not much about poverty turns people into smiling submissive Norman Rockwell pools of gratitude.

Sorry to bust the bubble.

The man who gave the boots did a kindness and good for him. But, the world didn't change because of it.

“animis opibusque parati”

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#6 Dec 3, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
OMG, you mean he didn't use those boots to turn his life around?
Oliver Twist is right, there is a reason the man is at the bottom of the socio-economic scale. It's because that is how we prioritize those with mental impairments, those with addictions and those who don't rank highly as "consumers." Oh, and a surprising number of our returning veterans fall onto the same trash heap.
Those who are poor are pretty much like the rest of us. Some are doggoned rude, unappreciative and prefer making their own choices with the things that become their property. Not much about poverty turns people into smiling submissive Norman Rockwell pools of gratitude.
Sorry to bust the bubble.
The man who gave the boots did a kindness and good for him. But, the world didn't change because of it.
Poverty doesn't "turn people" into anything.
Individual choices "turn people" to poverty...or to self-sufficiency.

This man obviously isn't mentally impaired, as he indicated he wanted "his piece of the pie" out of the charitable act.

Ungrateful moron.

“Don't trust the internet!”

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#7 Dec 3, 2012
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
Poverty doesn't "turn people" into anything.
Individual choices "turn people" to poverty...or to self-sufficiency.
This man obviously isn't mentally impaired, as he indicated he wanted "his piece of the pie" out of the charitable act.
Ungrateful moron.
You got some psych credentials there, tip?

Why is the guy living shoeless on the street?

And if you are going to fall back on that "poor choices" stuff, you better be willing to be specific about what choices the man has made.

BTW--do children get to choose their own parents now? Lotta kids born into poverty.

“animis opibusque parati”

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#8 Dec 3, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
You got some psych credentials there, tip?
Why is the guy living shoeless on the street?
And if you are going to fall back on that "poor choices" stuff, you better be willing to be specific about what choices the man has made.
BTW--do children get to choose their own parents now? Lotta kids born into poverty.
The dude is shoeless because he refuses to wear the shoes gifted to him.
However, neither he nor anyone else has to remain shoeless or in poverty in this nation.

Stop with the excuses.
Oliver Twist

Springfield, OH

#9 Dec 3, 2012
The reasons for poverty are two fold as the poor tend to do the following:

Live in Present

Individuals living within the culture of poverty focus their ideals and actions on the present. This is partially an aspect of necessity, wherein an individual must be concerned with a month's bills, daily food, and gas and transportation responsibilities. Long term goals or realities that do not shape his present perspective, such as political concerns, saving for retirement or the ramifications of health decisions, become secondary to the realities and responsibilities of his daily concerns.

Family Values

The culture of poverty theory describes a tendency toward casual relationships, common law marriages and an increased frequency of divorce. The theory suggests a sense of moral degradation within groups of poverty that lead to a breakdown of family values, including an increased tendency toward lax child raising. Studies suggest that these assumptions may be incorrect and show relatively similar percentages for marriages, as well as stricter child rearing techniques, says the University of Nebraska.

Read more: Culture of Poverty Characteristics | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/info_8059141_culture-pove...
Liberal Troll

Akron, OH

#10 Dec 3, 2012
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
The dude is shoeless because he refuses to wear the shoes gifted to him.
However, neither he nor anyone else has to remain shoeless or in poverty in this nation.
Stop with the excuses.
She can't, they gotta get Public Official 14 elected Governor of Ohio in '14.
Wait what

Columbus, OH

#11 Dec 3, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
OMG, you mean he didn't use those boots to turn his life around?
Oliver Twist is right, there is a reason the man is at the bottom of the socio-economic scale. It's because that is how we prioritize those with mental impairments, those with addictions and those who don't rank highly as "consumers." Oh, and a surprising number of our returning veterans fall onto the same trash heap.
Those who are poor are pretty much like the rest of us. Some are doggoned rude, unappreciative and prefer making their own choices with the things that become their property. Not much about poverty turns people into smiling submissive Norman Rockwell pools of gratitude.
Sorry to bust the bubble.
The man who gave the boots did a kindness and good for him. But, the world didn't change because of it.
Well then, why bother to do an act of kindness at all?

Hugh Victor Thompson III

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#12 Dec 3, 2012
The boots? We've seen this story before:

http://www.mashepisodeguide.com/wp-content/up...
Liberal Troll

Akron, OH

#13 Dec 3, 2012
Wait what wrote:
<quoted text>
Well then, why bother to do an act of kindness at all?
Wanna be called WASIS?

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

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#14 Dec 3, 2012
Liberal Troll wrote:
<quoted text>
Wanna be called WASIS?
Could care less.
Liberal Troll

Akron, OH

#15 Dec 3, 2012
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
Could care less.
The GOPe run around in circles when anyone calls them that
Wait what

Columbus, OH

#16 Dec 3, 2012
Liberal Troll wrote:
<quoted text>
Wanna be called WASIS?
Reader doesn't dare, after posting a crude joke about Native Americans.
Wait what

Columbus, OH

#17 Dec 3, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
OMG, you mean he didn't use those boots to turn his life around?
Oliver Twist is right, there is a reason the man is at the bottom of the socio-economic scale. It's because that is how we prioritize those with mental impairments, those with addictions and those who don't rank highly as "consumers." Oh, and a surprising number of our returning veterans fall onto the same trash heap.
Those who are poor are pretty much like the rest of us. Some are doggoned rude, unappreciative and prefer making their own choices with the things that become their property. Not much about poverty turns people into smiling submissive Norman Rockwell pools of gratitude.
Sorry to bust the bubble.
The man who gave the boots did a kindness and good for him. But, the world didn't change because of it.
Some of those same folks are expected to refuse to sign up for Medicaid under the health reform.

I guess Obama couldn't change the world, either.

“Don't trust the internet!”

Since: Jan 12

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#18 Dec 3, 2012
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
The dude is shoeless because he refuses to wear the shoes gifted to him.
However, neither he nor anyone else has to remain shoeless or in poverty in this nation.
Stop with the excuses.
Why would a rational person who has been given a pair of boots choose not to wear them?

“Don't trust the internet!”

Since: Jan 12

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#19 Dec 3, 2012
Oliver Twist wrote:
The reasons for poverty are two fold as the poor tend to do the following:
Live in Present
Individuals living within the culture of poverty focus their ideals and actions on the present. This is partially an aspect of necessity, wherein an individual must be concerned with a month's bills, daily food, and gas and transportation responsibilities. Long term goals or realities that do not shape his present perspective, such as political concerns, saving for retirement or the ramifications of health decisions, become secondary to the realities and responsibilities of his daily concerns.
Family Values
The culture of poverty theory describes a tendency toward casual relationships, common law marriages and an increased frequency of divorce. The theory suggests a sense of moral degradation within groups of poverty that lead to a breakdown of family values, including an increased tendency toward lax child raising. Studies suggest that these assumptions may be incorrect and show relatively similar percentages for marriages, as well as stricter child rearing techniques, says the University of Nebraska.
Read more: Culture of Poverty Characteristics | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/info_8059141_culture-pove...
Interesting what you selected as your focus.

However, these describe what is, not why it is.

Hugh Victor Thompson III

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#20 Dec 3, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would a rational person who has been given a pair of boots choose not to wear them?
Radar traded the longjohns for a rack of lamb and a bowl of mint jelly...
Get the idea?
Liberal Troll

Akron, OH

#21 Dec 3, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
Interesting what you selected as your focus.
However, these describe what is, not why it is.
If people weren't as stupid and lived in a culture that shamed those behaviors, there would be less poverty.

When 75% of blacks are born out of wedlock, it's no wonder that black crime rates are so high.

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