Crumbling Bridges

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I read this story with great interest. It happened to me last summer while driving through the downtown freeway. As I approached the the split, a rock, a stone landed on my windshield, I never gave much thought to crumbling bridges, I thought it was just random bad luck, I would have to be more careful, I would have to pay better attention.

Now I see that it may not have been me at all. Of course no one in the ODOT will own up to this and accept responsibility.

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Nov 20, 2012
 
The bridge on 62 over Darby Creek near Harrisburg is a mess. The roadbed may be ok, but the "curbing" is crumbling all over the road.
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Nov 20, 2012
 
bosco wrote:
I read this story with great interest. It happened to me last summer while driving through the downtown freeway. As I approached the the split, a rock, a stone landed on my windshield, I never gave much thought to crumbling bridges, I thought it was just random bad luck, I would have to be more careful, I would have to pay better attention.
Now I see that it may not have been me at all. Of course no one in the ODOT will own up to this and accept responsibility.
I would guess bridge concrete or light poles would be like potholes. If no one reports it then they just play dumb. If someone reports it then if not fixed then the next drivers witj broken windshields would be able to file a claim
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The whole infrastructure of America is crumbling. It needs repair and replacement and there are going to be a lot more accidents because of it.

We have no money to make the repairs at any level. Federal, state, county and municipalities have empty pockets because umemployment is so high, therefore they are not collecting tax revenue.

Hmmm....now if we just had a presidential candidate that knew how to create 12 million well paying jobs across the nation quickly, more tax revenue would have poured into all sectors and now idle costruction workers would be fixing roads, bridges, water lines, sewer lines, electric grid and they would be needing equipment and supplies and tools and transportation and fuel and flaggers and......tax preparers and lawyers and......

Too bad we didn't have anyone like that we could have voted for.

But hey, Obama wants more teachers. That makes me real hopeful.
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notlocal wrote:
The whole infrastructure of America is crumbling. It needs repair and replacement and there are going to be a lot more accidents because of it.
We have no money to make the repairs at any level. Federal, state, county and municipalities have empty pockets because umemployment is so high, therefore they are not collecting tax revenue.
Hmmm....now if we just had a presidential candidate that knew how to create 12 million well paying jobs across the nation quickly, more tax revenue would have poured into all sectors and now idle costruction workers would be fixing roads, bridges, water lines, sewer lines, electric grid and they would be needing equipment and supplies and tools and transportation and fuel and flaggers and......tax preparers and lawyers and......
Too bad we didn't have anyone like that we could have voted for.
But hey, Obama wants more teachers. That makes me real hopeful.
Even when jobs were more plentiful, the conditions of bridges were ignored and always put on the back burner.

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Nov 20, 2012
 
On the H2 channel-271 direct tv,there is a special at 4 o clock about this.Apparntly this is a major problem all over the U.S.
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Wait what wrote:
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Even when jobs were more plentiful, the conditions of bridges were ignored and always put on the back burner.
Then you need a community outcry. This small state has such friendly corporate laws that we have many, many companies incorporated here. Not necessarily located here, but they are DE corps.

The gist is we collect so much corporate tax that we have no sales tax, low income tax, really low property tax and lots of money to keep our roads etc. in excellent condition. Lower tax rate always equals out to more tax revenue.

Also lots of lawyers and courts.

Nevada also has a similar corporate tax structure and I can't understand why they are doing so poorly financially.

But aside from that, really horrible accidents can and will occur if the infrastructure is not dealth with soon.

Right now they need to reconstruct the whole north east corridor's power grid to avoid the massive outages and deaths that we had from Sandy.
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Catman Dave wrote:
On the H2 channel-271 direct tv,there is a special at 4 o clock about this.Apparntly this is a major problem all over the U.S.
AS the wife of a underground engineer and site guy, I can tell you, it is. I hear real horror stories about 'what if' and what the consequences will be.

There's a gas line explosion somewhere in the midwest today from an excavator hitting a gas line that is probably 30 years old. No one killed, thank God.

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AS the wife of a underground engineer and site guy, I can tell you, it is. I hear real horror stories about 'what if' and what the consequences will be.
There's a gas line explosion somewhere in the midwest today from an excavator hitting a gas line that is probably 30 years old. No one killed, thank God.
When I drove trucks prior to 1996,I saw so many bridges with big chunks missing from the underside of them.They would just rope off the berm and it seemed to take forever for them to be repaired.And some of the roads were even worse,but I'm sure everybody knows that already.

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Catman Dave wrote:
<quoted text>When I drove trucks prior to 1996,I saw so many bridges with big chunks missing from the underside of them.They would just rope off the berm and it seemed to take forever for them to be repaired.And some of the roads were even worse,but I'm sure everybody knows that already.
Driving some of the roads around here kind of reminds me of this video. Warning, not for those with acrophobia!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Then you need a community outcry. This small state has such friendly corporate laws that we have many, many companies incorporated here. Not necessarily located here, but they are DE corps.
The gist is we collect so much corporate tax that we have no sales tax, low income tax, really low property tax and lots of money to keep our roads etc. in excellent condition. Lower tax rate always equals out to more tax revenue.
Also lots of lawyers and courts.
Nevada also has a similar corporate tax structure and I can't understand why they are doing so poorly financially.
But aside from that, really horrible accidents can and will occur if the infrastructure is not dealth with soon.
Right now they need to reconstruct the whole north east corridor's power grid to avoid the massive outages and deaths that we had from Sandy.
And with this, warnings about the grid have gone on for YEARS. If you mention it, though, people write you off as a conspiracy theorist while we are forced to do more and more electronically (no paper checks for social security, easier to monitor for theft). Incapacitating part of the grid, especially in the northeast, is a real terrorist threat. If I were rich, I'd be off the grid.

Americans want to live in their own little world - you know, the whole 'don't worry, be happy' attitude. It really worries me. Without worriers who thought about 'what if', the species would never have survived.
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notlocal wrote:
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Then you need a community outcry. This small state has such friendly corporate laws that we have many, many companies incorporated here. Not necessarily located here, but they are DE corps.
The gist is we collect so much corporate tax that we have no sales tax, low income tax, really low property tax and lots of money to keep our roads etc. in excellent condition. Lower tax rate always equals out to more tax revenue.
Also lots of lawyers and courts.
Nevada also has a similar corporate tax structure and I can't understand why they are doing so poorly financially.
But aside from that, really horrible accidents can and will occur if the infrastructure is not dealth with soon.
Right now they need to reconstruct the whole north east corridor's power grid to avoid the massive outages and deaths that we had from Sandy.
DE makes it's money from "franchise taxes" which is what the corps pay when they incorporate in DE for certain legal reasons as DE law is then required to be used in all states when the corp is sued.

NV makes it's money from GAMBLING which is down tremendously in the current economy. Until NV diversifies, which is opposed by the gaming interests for fear of higher labor costs and union militancy (NV is RTW but the unions are still strong) then its economy will remain tied to California's.

Massive infrastructure spending is untenable in this time of debt and war.

It sucks, but 16 trillion in debt is still 16 trillion in debt, you don't take out a third mortgage.

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"Somebody should fix that" everyone says, but no one wants to pony up.

Typical hypocritical Americans.

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notlocal wrote:
The whole infrastructure of America is crumbling. It needs repair and replacement and there are going to be a lot more accidents because of it.
We have no money to make the repairs at any level. Federal, state, county and municipalities have empty pockets because umemployment is so high, therefore they are not collecting tax revenue.
Hmmm....now if we just had a presidential candidate that knew how to create 12 million well paying jobs across the nation quickly, more tax revenue would have poured into all sectors and now idle costruction workers would be fixing roads, bridges, water lines, sewer lines, electric grid and they would be needing equipment and supplies and tools and transportation and fuel and flaggers and......tax preparers and lawyers and......
Too bad we didn't have anyone like that we could have voted for.
But hey, Obama wants more teachers. That makes me real hopeful.
That candidate you're talking about was talking out his backside. His "detailed jobs plan", which I looked at and read, was just so much hot air. Not one specific thing to accomplish his goal.

Twenty-five million jobs at $40k a year can be created quickly if the corporations would invest just half of the $2 trillion in cash they are sitting on. No government involvement either. But THEY prefer to let the country go to hell just because the "wrong" party won. The new hires would pay taxes, spend money on all kinds of stuff, demand for business would go up, everybody wins. But for some reason this idea is labeled as socialist.

HOW ABOUT HELPING TEAM AMERICA INSTEAD OF SITTING ON YOUR HANDS???
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"Somebody should fix that" everyone says, but no one wants to pony up.
Typical hypocritical Americans.
Perhaps more would be willing if we did it like WWII war bonds, and the unions were reined in, labor union extortion is a big reason why these projects rarely come in at or under budget.

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Driving some of the roads around here kind of reminds me of this video. Warning, not for those with acrophobia!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Holy crap!! I would hate to climb those drunk.

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Kemosahbe wrote:
"Somebody should fix that" everyone says, but no one wants to pony up.
Typical hypocritical Americans.
U.S. taxpayers are raped by Uncle Sam and his state and local underlings daily.
Citizens do not decide how those tax dollars are spent; politicians do.
That's why our nation is bankrupt.

Meanwhile...somewhere in Hawaii, the Polynesian Voyaging Club is feasting on pork-barrel earmarks.

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Karl wrote:
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DE makes it's money from "franchise taxes" which is what the corps pay when they incorporate in DE for certain legal reasons as DE law is then required to be used in all states when the corp is sued.
NV makes it's money from GAMBLING which is down tremendously in the current economy. Until NV diversifies, which is opposed by the gaming interests for fear of higher labor costs and union militancy (NV is RTW but the unions are still strong) then its economy will remain tied to California's.
Massive infrastructure spending is untenable in this time of debt and war.
It sucks, but 16 trillion in debt is still 16 trillion in debt, you don't take out a third mortgage.
Nevada has some of the some incorporation laws as Delaware. I believe you need a physical presence there, though. One of our subsidiaries is incorporated in Reno, Nevada and has a two person office there. We're incorporated in Delaware.

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<quoted text>Holy crap!! I would hate to climb those drunk.
Try this ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Cleavon Little wrote:
<quoted text>Try this ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Culd you imagine building that?Thats a lot of bolts.

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