When Welfare Pays Better Than Work

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Enzyte Bob

Reynoldsburg, OH

#1 Aug 21, 2013
HOPEY-CHANGEY: When Welfare Pays Better Than Work.
Here’s an offer for you:$38,004 per year, tax free.No work required.Apply at your local welfare office.

The federal government funds 126 separate programs targeted towards low-income people, 72 of which provide either cash or in-kind benefits to individuals.(The rest fund community-wide programs for low-income neighborhoods, with no direct benefits to individuals.) State and local governments operate more welfare programs.Of course, no individual or family gets benefits from all 72 programs, but many do get aid from a number of them at any point in time.

Today, the Cato institute is releasing a new study looking at the state-by-state value of welfare for a mother with two children. In the Empire State, a family receiving Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, Medicaid, food stamps, WIC, public housing, utility assistance and free commodities (like milk and cheese) would have a package of benefits worth $38,004, the seventh-highest in the nation.

While that might not sound overly generous, remember that welfare benefits aren’t taxed, while wages are. So someone in New York would have to earn more than $21 per hour to be better off than they would be on welfare.That’s more than the average statewide entry-level salary for a teacher.

Plus, going to work means added costs such as paying for child care, transportation and clothing.Not to mention that, even if it’s not a money-loser, a person moving from welfare to work will see some form of loss — namely, less time for leisure as opposed to work.

Is it any wonder, then, that, despite the work requirements included in the 1996 welfare reform, only 27.6 percent of adult welfare recipients in New York are working in unsubsidized jobs?

When you subsidize things, you get more of them.
Enzyte Bob

Reynoldsburg, OH

#2 Aug 21, 2013
MICKEY KAUS: CATO’s Schizo on Welfare.“If the only thing that mattered in terms of getting people off welfare was providing an economic incentive to work, maybe these liberal answers would do the job. Experience has shown they’re not enough, though–as long as people can get by on welfare (or by working sporadically off the books while collecting welfare) a good number will wind up doing just that, even if they’d be financially better off taking a minimum wage job and applying for the Earned Income Tax Credit and Obamacare, etc. One reason might be that if you go to work you have to, you know, work.“

http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/20/catos-schiz...
Leroy

Upper Sandusky, OH

#3 Aug 21, 2013
Myhs momma tolds me that she be getting moneys from doktor obama for doins spechul surgerees on d pathunts he ain't got no time to sea. she says fo me not to calls it welfair.

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#4 Aug 21, 2013
And the bobbleheads wonder why there exists an undercurrent of resentment among working Americans.

Since: Dec 11

Middletown, OH

#5 Aug 21, 2013
They don't wonder, they know. They posit that Richie Rich is the one on the hook in reality tis always Joe the plumber. This will continue until the true reality and wrath of the method of financing the charade pops. "Think 1929 or currency collapse".......then all the Keynsian kooks will be put on one of those trash barges and put to sea.
vncnz12

Uniontown, OH

#6 Aug 21, 2013
Welfare pays more than work when that parasitic company known as Walmart hires people part time with no benefits and have set a pattern for other companies to do the same. When Kudlow states on CNBC that "free market capitalism is the path to prosperity" perhaps for him but not for the majority of the population. The Walton family can rot in Hell as far as I am concerned. They are the new "robber barons". This country needs to be reindustrialized and create decent paying jobs and not be a colony of China and Israel where the defense budget is spent instead of taking care of our own. When more than 40% of the population has no net worth whatsoever in the so called "greatest country in the world" something is very wrong.
vncnz12

Uniontown, OH

#7 Aug 21, 2013
Sorry did not mean to post twice. I was just pointing out that mathematically it makes no sense for someone to work and earn LESS than getting welfare. The system created it that way I really cant blame someone down on their luck takes advantage of it rather than gets a job consisting of the magic words "do you want fries with that?" for minimum wage or go to work for China Mart part time with no benefits. When the new jobs created are sub standard jobs paying very little in either retail or the service industry something is very wrong while the parasites in Washington and their corporate pimps outsource decent paying manufacturing jobs to slave wage nations like China and India for the all mighty buck in the name of "free trade". I recommend everyone to read "downside this" by Michael Moore. Perhaps you will see a better picture of what I am trying to say.

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