Obama's Dangerous Game on Iran Becoming Clear

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“animis opibusque parati”

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Obama's true legacy.

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by Peter Foster

One of the most unfortunate pieces of White House spinning over the Iran nuclear negotiations is that those who supported new sanctions legislation including several Democrat senators were effectively "voting for war".

They weren't. What they were voting for was an alternative way of dealing with Iran. A more results-driven and fact-based approach, that clashes with several of the premises that underpin the current Kerry-Obama approach to the negotiations.

The new Senate sanctions bill (now successfully stalled, it seems) didn't call for new sanctions straight away. What it did was seek to put a hard floor under the negotiations process: if no deal was reached within 12 months the six months of the "interim deal" plus six months grace then the sanctions would kick in.

There was good reason for this approach. Sceptics or perhaps better, pragmatists didn't want Tehran to keep endlessly rebooting the negotiations. Their fear was that Iran would simply wait while their economy picked up as sanctions started to unravel under the weight of market expectations and then cut a deal from a position of strength.

Mr Obama always vigorously refuted this analysis as scaremongering, saying sanctions were "limited" and "reversible", and that Iran's feet would held to the fire to ensure they did actually cut a meaningful deal.

Already, however, there are signs that the pragmatist's analysis has turned out to be correct. First it emerged last month that Russia was engaged in negotiating a $1.5 billion-a-month backdoor trade/barter deal.

Then, this week, a group 116 of France's top businessmen, including representatives from companies like Renault, Total and Airbus, visited Tehran on a trade mission offering further evidence that market expectation is picking up: when German CEO's see their French counterparts racing to Tehran to get first dibs on any deals, you can bet they won't be far behind.

In both of these cases the White House and State Department has officially cried foul, describing the French delegations and Russian deals as "unhelpful" and of "serious concern".

Perhaps they really are concerned, fearing that their negotiating leverage is visibly ebbing away, since it's hard to drive a bargain with Tehran to give up its nuclear programme when Iran is getting what they want (economic relief) anyway.

But there is another theory that this is precisely what the White House wants. Look at this quotation from Wendy Sherman, the US's top Iran negotiator, giving evidence to a senate committee this week in response to the French trade gambit.....

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And speaking of Iran, one of them had a...(ahem)..."workplace accident" at Georgia Tech:

http://tinyurl.com/ks7fukk

I'm guessing the last 4 letters of the URL above are roughly what went through his mind in his last moment on earth.

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Capitulation to Iran isn't just what Madame President Jarrett wants, it is politically popular. War weariness is rampant in this country, no one under forty wants to go to war with Iran.
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Feb 6, 2014
 
Iran is the modern name for Persia, Iranian being the modern name for Persian. Persians were Persians way before islam came upon the scene and a lot of people especially of the west miss the fact Persians are Persian first, moslem second, Matter of fact some Persians are not moslem.
I hope this is making sense to someone.
In the war in Syria at the present Iran as well as Russia is supporting and arming the Assad government along with Assad's Christian allies. If they were a chain, the links would be Christian-Assad-Tehran, helping the Christians indirectly through Assad.
Islam consists of many factions, nearly as many factions as there are nationalities. baraq is allied with the Wahhabi rebels in Syria as well as Wahhabi Saudi Arabia. This middle eastern politics and factionism is very complicated.
There is the Damascus/Christian alliance backed by Moscow and Tehran facing off with the al Qaeda/Wahhabi alliance backed by DC and Riyadh. These are the principals in this war and the way the alignment turned out.
There's more.
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Getting back to Persia which you call Iran, sanctions can never hurt Persia, Iran, because of her closeness of proximity to Russia and India and the bond between Moscow and Tehran. Looking at this realistically the US sanctions on Iran hurts America and any country who joins America sanctionally more than hurting Iran.
France, Germany, Russia and anyone else who does has every right to trade and do business with Tehran. Paris, Berlin and Moscow owes DC nothing.
The shakers and quakers in DC are two faced and not very bright. They allow American investors to invest in one of the most totalitarian countries on earth, Viet Nam and sanction Iran. Makes no sense business wise but politically wise I understand.
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Neocon meatheads should finally admit that the real reason for invading Iraq and Agfhanistan is to establish military bases that surround Iran.

Iran has always been the real target of the neocons.

Military bases in Iraq and Afghanistan are necessary to intercept in the boost phase missiles fired at Israel from Iran.

Israel has problems with Iran because Iran supports Hezbollah, and Hezbollah is a real counter to Israeli regional hegemony.

There is no nuclear missiles in Iran.There are definitely nuclear missiles in Israel. The Iranian nuclear misile hype is crap invented by the neocon propaganda machine.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

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-The-Artist- wrote:
Capitulation to Iran isn't just what Madame President Jarrett wants, it is politically popular. War weariness is rampant in this country, no one under forty wants to go to war with Iran.
People over 40 do?
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Sam Nunn wrote:
Neocon meatheads should finally admit that the real reason for invading Iraq and Agfhanistan is to establish military bases that surround Iran.
Iran has always been the real target of the neocons.
Military bases in Iraq and Afghanistan are necessary to intercept in the boost phase missiles fired at Israel from Iran.
Israel has problems with Iran because Iran supports Hezbollah, and Hezbollah is a real counter to Israeli regional hegemony.
There is no nuclear missiles in Iran.There are definitely nuclear missiles in Israel. The Iranian nuclear misile hype is crap invented by the neocon propaganda machine.
and your poop is sold at Macy's as perfume.
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Reality Speaks wrote:
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and your poop is sold at Macy's as perfume.
I have the corner on poop.

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