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#64 Nov 22, 2012
Kosmik wrote:
<quoted text>Republicans were in charge cutting taxes, unions and jobs leading up to both the Great Depression and The Bush Depression (that we're still in)

That's the problem with you hypothetical idiots. What you want has been tried and failed miserable each and every time.

You're a Republican, no matter what you want to tell yourself.
Depressions all start out as garden variety recessions. It's who is in control afterwards that determines how long it lasts. Government intervention always kills free markets. We saw it with Hoover, we saw it Roosevelt, we saw it with Bush, and we see it with Obama. All four are to blame but with different severities.

The downturn started with the price of gas and housing. Gas skyrocketed taking money from paying the mortgage. Bad loans were exposed. That had very little to do with Bush other than he saw the problem and failed in his efforts to stop it because he couldn't get legislation past the Dems. Bush failed in beginning the bailouts. Bush failed in huge deficits.

Obama quadrupled down on Bush's stupidity. If Bush could do it once stupid, Obama would go for four times the damage. Bigger bailouts, bigger deficits, devastating debt.

This recession would have been over in under a year with a competent leader. The market saw Obama coming in 2008 and did what I did. Sold the market knowing he'd make things worse being a communist.

Obama is an amateur of epic proportions. The man will continue to fail us and we are headed for some horrible times. At this point, I think it is necessary because there are too many takers in this society. The only way for them to learn is when there is nothing else to take. Unfortunately, we see in some societies that they still don't learn. So it's a huge risk we take of permanent destruction.

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#65 Nov 22, 2012
Karl wrote:
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This will be far bloodier than the Depression.
At the minimum we are headed for low intensity conflict like the Troubles in Ulster.
At the max, we are talking full scale civil war akin to Yugoslavia and Lebanon.
Remember--the Revolution will not be televised.
Karl

Dalton, OH

#66 Nov 22, 2012
killa_the_compassionate wrote:
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I have my doubts. I think we are more likely to just suffer through it. But there will likely be much unrest as hungry people want food. It won't be a pretty time either way.
Some of my father's cousins were in the Troubles with the IRA and Sinn Fein (socialists), when people are put against the wall, they will fight back. In Ulster, the Protestants monopolized political power, as the left is about to do here.

Lebanon was a situation where the Maronites (Christians) were trying to maintain power over the Shia Muslims but were no longer the demographic majority. The way the left operates assumes that there should be an ethnic/gender spoils system in politics.
Karl

Dalton, OH

#67 Nov 22, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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Remember--the Revolution will not be televised.
The Syrians are getting out a decent amount of video of their revolution.

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#68 Nov 22, 2012
Karl wrote:
<quoted text>Some of my father's cousins were in the Troubles with the IRA and Sinn Fein (socialists), when people are put against the wall, they will fight back. In Ulster, the Protestants monopolized political power, as the left is about to do here.

Lebanon was a situation where the Maronites (Christians) were trying to maintain power over the Shia Muslims but were no longer the demographic majority. The way the left operates assumes that there should be an ethnic/gender spoils system in politics.
You may be right.
Karl

Dalton, OH

#69 Nov 22, 2012
killa_the_compassionate wrote:
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You may be right.
I fear that I may be wrong, it could look like Rwanda.

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#70 Nov 22, 2012
Karl wrote:
<quoted text>I fear that I may be wrong, it could look like Rwanda.
That may be our alternative. What is needed is a charismatic leader like Ronald Reagan to rescue us. Either way we will spend a decade cleaning up the mess if at all. I think we need the pain to end entitlements. It appears to be the only way left.
Karl

Dalton, OH

#71 Nov 22, 2012
killa_the_compassionate wrote:
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That may be our alternative. What is needed is a charismatic leader like Ronald Reagan to rescue us. Either way we will spend a decade cleaning up the mess if at all. I think we need the pain to end entitlements. It appears to be the only way left.
The tribalism that infects current politics is going to get worse in my opinion, illegal alien amnesty is a win for Democrats, we can't get people who are poorer than average and with a 71% illegitimacy rate to vote for conservatives.

I don't think government can reverse the failings of the people, only the people themselves or war can do it.

None of the leading contenders of the GOP can do it, the media is ripping Marco Rubio for giving the same answer that Obama did a few years ago.

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#72 Nov 22, 2012
Karl wrote:
<quoted text>The tribalism that infects current politics is going to get worse in my opinion, illegal alien amnesty is a win for Democrats, we can't get people who are poorer than average and with a 71% illegitimacy rate to vote for conservatives.

I don't think government can reverse the failings of the people, only the people themselves or war can do it.

None of the leading contenders of the GOP can do it, the media is ripping Marco Rubio for giving the same answer that Obama did a few years ago.
Marco Rubio was never the answer. The personality just isn't there. Don't get me wrong, I'll vote for the guy in a second if nominated because he's right.

Illegals are a big loser. The record of the world is poor people being ruled by tyrants. They are easy to manipulate with no education and no drive. They used to come to this country for opportunity. Now they come for a handout. It's a different type of person that will vote themselves free stuff every time.
Karl

Dalton, OH

#73 Nov 22, 2012
killa_the_compassionate wrote:
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Marco Rubio was never the answer. The personality just isn't there. Don't get me wrong, I'll vote for the guy in a second if nominated because he's right.
Illegals are a big loser. The record of the world is poor people being ruled by tyrants. They are easy to manipulate with no education and no drive. They used to come to this country for opportunity. Now they come for a handout. It's a different type of person that will vote themselves free stuff every time.
In many cases people see government as enabling "opportunity" instead of having to knock on the door themselves.

Noteworthy about Rubio (in spanish this means blond, the La Raza set uses this to say en Espanol that Rubio is white on the inside)

is that he barely outscored Rick Scott when running for Senate in 2010. Rick Scott (I do like him) is a real SOB who did not deserve to be elected governor, but has done a mostly good job and should be re-elected.

The fact is that Rubio isn't even that popular in Florida itself.

Now if Charlie Crist hadn't been an egotistical douchebag, and run for re-election as Governor, he would be Vice President-elect.

I think that we should seek out a Herman Cain-like executive of minority background, and a Ted Cruz-like lawyer type for VP that can argue strict constructionalism.(Cruz can't run he was born in Canada). Mike Pence if he does a good job as IN gov would be a good VP pick.

But mostly I feel like I'm just pissing in the wind over this, the establishment wants Huntsman Jr or Chris "I love Islam" Christie

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#74 Nov 22, 2012
Karl wrote:
<quoted text>In many cases people see government as enabling "opportunity" instead of having to knock on the door themselves.

Noteworthy about Rubio (in spanish this means blond, the La Raza set uses this to say en Espanol that Rubio is white on the inside)

is that he barely outscored Rick Scott when running for Senate in 2010. Rick Scott (I do like him) is a real SOB who did not deserve to be elected governor, but has done a mostly good job and should be re-elected.

The fact is that Rubio isn't even that popular in Florida itself.

Now if Charlie Crist hadn't been an egotistical douchebag, and run for re-election as Governor, he would be Vice President-elect.

I think that we should seek out a Herman Cain-like executive of minority background, and a Ted Cruz-like lawyer type for VP that can argue strict constructionalism.(Cruz can't run he was born in Canada). Mike Pence if he does a good job as IN gov would be a good VP pick.

But mostly I feel like I'm just pissing in the wind over this, the establishment wants Huntsman Jr or Chris "I love Islam" Christie
I think if Christie gets it, the third party option is live. He killed his chances with conservatives with the Obama charade. The little I saw of Huntsman was a joke. The media loves him, but again... Third party.

I don't know that I've seen anybody that has an interest look promising. As long as they keep listening to moderate campaign managers, they will fail.

Somebody may rise up in the next couple of years out of pure necessity. Whomever gets it will be inheriting a very different country.
Karl

Dalton, OH

#75 Nov 22, 2012
killa_the_compassionate wrote:
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I think if Christie gets it, the third party option is live. He killed his chances with conservatives with the Obama charade. The little I saw of Huntsman was a joke. The media loves him, but again... Third party.
I don't know that I've seen anybody that has an interest look promising. As long as they keep listening to moderate campaign managers, they will fail.
Somebody may rise up in the next couple of years out of pure necessity. Whomever gets it will be inheriting a very different country.
Said person would be a regional warlord. Carter Ham???

Huntsman Jr has a good record as Utah governor, he was pro-life and pro-2A, though he did spend too much.

The problem is that his campaign was based around attacking the base to win the New Hampshire primary by crossover D votes.

Huntsman Jr was considered by Obama as his biggest threat (and he was) so he was sent to China. Huntsman Jr was always going to run for President and he thought the President was doing him a favor by boosting his credentials (no other GOP candidate had anything for foreign policy). Or perhaps he thought Obama would ditch Biden and make him VP for 2012.

He also had several gaffes:

"They pick corn in Iowa"

http://iowacaucus.com/2011/12/29/huntsman-on-...

"To be clear. I trust scientists on global warming. Call me crazy."

Not to mention accusing Ron Paul of being racist.

I question who is the dumber one, Huntsman Jr or his advisors. He had the single best record in domestic,social and foreign policy for a conservative, but ran as the most left wing of the candidates.

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#76 Nov 22, 2012
Karl wrote:
<quoted text>Said person would be a regional warlord. Carter Ham???

Huntsman Jr has a good record as Utah governor, he was pro-life and pro-2A, though he did spend too much.

The problem is that his campaign was based around attacking the base to win the New Hampshire primary by crossover D votes.

Huntsman Jr was considered by Obama as his biggest threat (and he was) so he was sent to China. Huntsman Jr was always going to run for President and he thought the President was doing him a favor by boosting his credentials (no other GOP candidate had anything for foreign policy). Or perhaps he thought Obama would ditch Biden and make him VP for 2012.

He also had several gaffes:

"They pick corn in Iowa"

http://iowacaucus.com/2011/12/29/huntsman-on-...

"To be clear. I trust scientists on global warming. Call me crazy."

Not to mention accusing Ron Paul of being racist.

I question who is the dumber one, Huntsman Jr or his advisors. He had the single best record in domestic,social and foreign policy for a conservative, but ran as the most left wing of the candidates.
He must have gotten his advice where the rest do. Moderate campaign managers. All I saw was liberalism coming from him. And a liberal media trying to push him.

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#77 Nov 22, 2012
Karl wrote:
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The Syrians are getting out a decent amount of video of their revolution.
That was a reference to a old piece of spoken word.

The point is that if you want a revolution you have to be willing to work for it--it is not a spectator sport.

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#78 Nov 22, 2012
killa_the_compassionate wrote:
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That may be our alternative. What is needed is a charismatic leader like Ronald Reagan to rescue us. Either way we will spend a decade cleaning up the mess if at all. I think we need the pain to end entitlements. It appears to be the only way left.
Jobs.

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#79 Nov 22, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>Jobs.
We aren't getting there in the next 4 years. Otherwise, you have a point.
JAD

Houston, TX

#80 Dec 30, 2012
-tip- wrote:
http://www.washingtontimes.com /blog/robbins-report/2012/nov/ 10/florida-vote-twist-more-bal lots-voters/
Florida Vote Twist: More Ballots Than Voters - Washington Times
FTA:
UPDATE: An hour after this report was posted the St. Lucie County Canvassing Board agreed to an entire early-voting recount starting Sunday at 7 a.m.
There was no election. Everyone knows the same thing happened in all the swing states. This whole thing is a fraud!! Our President was not elected; and neither were members of Congress. Something is very very wrong!!

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#81 Dec 30, 2012
JAD wrote:
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There was no election. Everyone knows the same thing happened in all the swing states. This whole thing is a fraud!! Our President was not elected; and neither were members of Congress. Something is very very wrong!!
What is wrong is folks like you who ignore rational explanations and prefer to claim that they are victims of conspiracies.

The 141% figure--as explained above--is the result of comparing the number of ballots cast to the registered voters. However, uniquenesses to the Florida ballot (exceptionally long wording on a number of proposals) required multiple "ballots," essentially a part one and a part two. At the extreme the 141% figure would represent a 70% voter turnout. However this is only an estimate as not all absentee ballots returned all portions.

Yes, there are election problems in Florida--but not the ones you are referring to.

Sorta gotta wonder about this particular thread being dredged up just following release of a report showing that lines to vote in some precincts were up to nine-hours long on election day and that numbers of voters were so discouraged that they neglected to vote. You know, maybe someone on the right is trying to throw up a diversion.
Bob Lewis

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#82 Dec 30, 2012
We have deteriorated into nothing more than Obama Nation. Expect the worse and settle for even less. We didn't Man Up to stop them and now we all must endure every horrific nightmare that Pelosi and Wasserman Schultz have planned for our pitiful families.

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#83 Dec 30, 2012
Bob Lewis wrote:
We have deteriorated into nothing more than Obama Nation. Expect the worse and settle for even less. We didn't Man Up to stop them and now we all must endure every horrific nightmare that Pelosi and Wasserman Schultz have planned for our pitiful families.
Sorry to hear about your pitiful family.

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