Enzyte Bob

Columbus, OH

#24 Jan 2, 2013
Repeat: Their bluff has been called. The welfare state they want to retain and expand cannot be funded, and they apparently have no way to do anything about that.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/336709/l...

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#25 Jan 2, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Let's see a link to your ridiculous numbers regarding public assistance.
Only a leech wants to drive this country into the ground by more borrowing and spending. You must really hate your kids because you are destroying their future.
Why are you such an uneducated, jealous lowlife?
I wouldn't have wanted to be in Boehner's shoes.

They averted nothing last night. Credit downgrade, faltering market, inflation and deficit spending are our future and it's time to pay the fiddler. I blame entitlements and out of control government spending over the years, but hey, that's just me. I am smart enough, and informed enough to know this administration has been the most frivilous with the people's money.

Best wishes for 2013, George.
Enzyte Bob

Columbus, OH

#26 Jan 2, 2013
Seriouslady wrote:
<quoted text>
I wouldn't have wanted to be in Boehner's shoes.
The Monday morning quarterbacks make a good point about, after 12 years, making most of the Bush tax rates permanent and making the estate tax exemption of $5 million permanent.

If you look at this as a game of football, this is only one series in a low scoring Tresselball game. We were forced to punt at the 50 yard line and they are pinned back at their five yard line.

Making the tax rates permanent will force the issue of having to deal with entitlements as Republicans will never vote to increase them.

I am miffed that nobody has the guts to deal with spending, and that all the usual suspects were crying Chicken Little because of a potential 3% cut, but it is what it is.

Another good analogy ... Michael Jackson, Burt Reynolds, Larry king, Mike Tyson, MC Hammer, Anna Nicole Smith, Willie Nelson, Elton John and Gary Coleman didn't file bankruptcy because of an income problem ...

THEY FILED BANKRUPTCY BECAUSE OF A SPENDING PROBLEM.
Enzyte Bob

Columbus, OH

#27 Jan 2, 2013
Seriouslady wrote:
I am smart enough, and informed enough to know this administration has been the most frivilous with the people's money.
That's what you get when you elect our first welfare baby as president.
Enzyte Bob

Columbus, OH

#28 Jan 2, 2013
GREG MANKIW: The President Rejects Bipartisanship:“The fiscal deal struck last night makes one thing clear: President Obama must have really hated the recommendations of the bipartisan Bowles-Simpson commission that he appointed. The commission said that we needed to reform entitlement programs to rein in spending and that increased tax revenue should come in the form of base broadening and lower marginal tax rates. The deal appears to offer no entitlement reforms, no tax reform, and higher marginal tax rates. After all the public discussion over the past couple years of what a good fiscal reform would like like, it is hard to imagine a deal that would be less responsive to the ideas of bipartisan policy wonks.”

Obama wants to punish people. That’s what they left out.
Enzyte Bob

Columbus, OH

#29 Jan 2, 2013
NICK GILLESPIE: Why Fiscal Cliff Deal is Terrible – But Will Lead to Lower Spending and Smaller Government.

http://reason.com/blog/2013/01/02/fiscal-clif...

UPDATE: Conn Carroll:
Remember, Obama’s first offer was for a $1.6 trillion tax hike and an infinite debt limit hike. Boehner countered with $800 billion. The final deal was for only $600 billion.

How is that not a “win” for Republicans?

http://washingtonexaminer.com/no-tom-cole-was...

MORE: Was the left taken to the cleaners?“The Democrats have made the Bush tax rates permanent for 98 percent of the public, which Republicans couldn’t even do when they controlled both houses of Congress and the presidency.”

Yeah, but there’s this rule: Anything less than a 100% victory for the GOP is instead a major victory for the Dems, according to all Democrats and most Republicans.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-tur...

STILL MORE: Bob Krumm is very unhappy.

http://www.bobkrumm.com/blog/2013/01/2614/
Enzyte Bob

Columbus, OH

#30 Jan 2, 2013
ROSS DOUTHAT: Cliff Deal Shows Obama’s Weakness, Not Strength:“If a newly re-elected Democratic president can’t muster the political will and capital required to do something as straightforward and relatively popular as raising taxes on the tiny fraction Americans making over $250,000 when those same taxes are scheduled to go up already, then how can Democrats ever expect to push taxes upward to levels that would make our existing public progams sustainable for the long run?”

They can’t, because those programs are unsustainable at any level of taxation. Something that can’t go on forever, won’t.

Plus:“There is a significant constituency among Congressional Democrats that was already uncomfortable with the $250,000 threshold and wanted to push it higher — all the way to a million dollars, if a certain influential New York Senator had his way — and the possibility that these Democrats might go wobbly in a post-cliff scenario gave the White House a reason (or an excuse) to concede ground that Obama had once promised to defend unstintingly. Nor is this tax-wary caucus likely to grow weaker with time: It exists because many Democratic lawmakers represent (and are funded by) a lot of affluent professionals in wealthy, high-cost-of-living states, and that relationship is only likely to loom larger if current demographic and political trends persist.”

That’s the problem with that whole war on the rich. Obama’s enemies are the small-business Kulaks, who vote Republican, but he can’t go after them without hurting the nobles who support Democrats financially.

I’d push 5% per year cuts in federal spending across the board — no “flexible freeze” BS — and do it each year until the deficit was under control. I think this would sell fairly well politically, too. Nobody believes that any federal department couldn’t cut costs 5% without impacting performance.

http://douthat.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/01/l...
Enzyte Bob

Columbus, OH

#31 Jan 2, 2013
Also: Democrats, who for years said #GOP tax cuts are to blame for near economic collapse, just reversed course and said 98% of them good policy.

https://twitter.com/BDayspring/status/2863247...
Anonymous

Dublin, OH

#32 Jan 2, 2013
Thanks for my 2% increase on payroll taxes, as utilities, food and medical care skyrocket. Good on ya, Congress! Enjoy your raise and Mr. President, you continue to have a wonderful time in Hawaii. Glad I could help with the airfare!
VADoc

Aiken, SC

#33 Jan 2, 2013
I love it. My insurance premiums go up due to Obamacare and now my portion of payroll taxes go up so I pay more in taxes each paycheck. Most likely ill end up paying more in taxes at tax time each year too. All while energy and grocery bills skyrocket.

Awesome mr. President. You really understand the plight of the American people.

Send me some photos of Hawaii. Ill never get to see it because ill not be able to afford the plane ticket. Oh and could you send someone over to fix our multi machine at the VA? It's been broken for two weeks and they still haven't fixed it and it's really cutting into my productivity.
Appalled

Cleveland, OH

#34 Jan 2, 2013
Boohoo boohoo
That's all you GOP do is cry in your beer!
Everyone has to pay their fair share so stop the whining, grow up and face the truth!
What a bunch of sniveling wimps!
Can't always TAKE without paying the piper when the time comes!
Enzyte Bob

Columbus, OH

#35 Jan 2, 2013
Appalled wrote:
Boohoo boohoo
That's all you GOP do is cry in your beer!
Everyone has to pay their fair share so stop the whining, grow up and face the truth!
What a bunch of sniveling wimps!
Can't always TAKE without paying the piper when the time comes!
98% of Bush's so-called policies have been adopted by Barry. The same policies that didn't work for Bush, work even less for Barry.

And that's something you're proud of?

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#36 Jan 2, 2013
Appalled wrote:
Boohoo boohoo
That's all you GOP do is cry in your beer!
Everyone has to pay their fair share so stop the whining, grow up and face the truth!
What a bunch of sniveling wimps!
Can't always TAKE without paying the piper when the time comes!
Who are YOU to decide what someone's "fair share" is?
And how do you feel about Obama hopping on AF1 30 minutes after his remarks last night, burning $3 million+ in another round trip to Hawaii?
You're so in love with your messiah that you don't realize how he's personally fleecing you.
Enjoy your tax increase in your pay in two weeks.
Enzyte Bob

Columbus, OH

#37 Jan 2, 2013
Boehner Responds to Reid:'Go F— Yourself'
5:27 AM, JAN 2, 2013 • BY DANIEL HALPER Single PagePrintLarger TextSmaller TextAlerts
John Boehner delivered a sharp response to Harry Reid, who last week accussed the House speaker of running “dictatorship.” The top Republican reportedly told the top Senate Democrat,“Go f— yourself."

“What are you talking about?” Reid repleid, at the White House.

"Go f— yourself," Boehner repeated.

Politico reports on the exchange:

House Speaker John Boehner couldn’t hold back when he spotted Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in the White House lobby last Friday.

It was only a few days before the nation would go over the fiscal cliff, no bipartisan agreement was in sight, and Reid had just publicly accused Boehner of running a “dictatorship” in the House and caring more about holding onto his gavel than striking a deal.

“Go f— yourself,” Boehner sniped as he pointed his finger at Reid, according to multiple sources present.

Reid, a bit startled, replied:“What are you talking about?”

Boehner repeated:“Go f— yourself.”

The harsh exchange just a few steps from the Oval Office — which Boehner later bragged about to fellow Republicans — was only one episode in nearly two months of high-stakes negotiations laced with distrust, miscommunication, false starts and yelling matches as Washington struggled to ward off $500 billion in tax hikes and spending cuts.
Enzyte Bob

Columbus, OH

#38 Jan 2, 2013
Henry Blodget:

To listen to all the moaning out of the House of Representatives yesterday, you could be forgiven for thinking that the Republicans are losing the fiscal battle in Washington.

Actually, they’re winning.

…Ever since the Bush Tax Cuts were first enacted in 2001–temporarily, as a stimulus measure–one goal of the Republican party has been to “make the Bush Tax Cuts permanent.”

For most of the last decade, this goal has seemed like an extremist view: Making the Bush Tax Cuts permanent would drastically reduce the federal government’s revenue. It would also increase inequality and balloon the national debt and deficit–so how could we possibly justify doing that?

And yet now, suddenly, almost all of the Bush Tax Cuts are permanent….when it comes to the broader fiscal battle, the Republicans are winning: The federal government’s tax revenues are at the lowest level as a percent of GDP in the past several decades.

The Republicans, in other words, are well on their way to starving the beast.
Enzyte Bob

Columbus, OH

#39 Jan 2, 2013
More from Redstate:

The Path Forward

Conservatives these days tend to be gloomy about the road ahead, partly due to lack of faith in the GOP’s leadership and establishment and partly due to lack of faith in the electorate. But this is no time to throw in the towel. There is good news here, too, as a number of those quoted above on both sides have noted, and we should not hesitate to celebrate it.

First, the nonsense idea of “temporary” tax policy has hopefully had a fatal stake driven through it: both parties had lauded their ability to deliver temporary tax relief in the past, and must now swallow voter anger that those tax cuts were allowed to expire. One of the golden rules of Washington is that bad policies rarely end until both parties have suffered a downside from them. The only reason for tax policy to be “temporary” in the first place is to game the broken system of budget scoring.

Second, the Democrats have truly conceded far more ground on taxes than the Republicans. The ATR no-tax-hikes pledge was bent and mutilated badly, but not completely broken, given that Republicans accepted the expiry of temporary cuts and did so only after exhausting numerous efforts to save them. But Democrats who spent a decade blaming deficits, the housing crisis, and weeds in your lawn on the Bush Tax Cuts have now delivered the votes to make nearly all of them permanent – something that was unthinkable any time during Bush’s presidency and even as recently as 2010.

Third, the table is set for Republicans in 2014 and especially 2016 to seize anew the initiative on taxes: on broad-based reforms that simplify the code, make it more pro-family, and cut taxes for everyone (possibly even slashing or abolishing the payroll tax)– variations on a platform that worked in 1980 and 2000 and can work again. After four years of bobbing and weaving, Obama now has signed off on raising taxes on nearly everyone, and that is sure to play into the GOP’s natural strengths.

Fourth, the table is also stacked against the Democrats demanding new tax hikes in the next spending battle. Maybe Boehner and McConnell won’t bring much back home in spending cuts – I never really believed that Obama would ever sign off on significant spending cuts or entitlement reform, and I still don’t – but there really is no case at all to be made for returning so soon to the well of tax hikes.

Fifth, the tone is set for Obama’s second term, and while it is hardly a great tone for Republicans, it also signals that Obama will need to either keep his ambitions small, stop demanding Republicans vote for deal-beakers, or start offering them something real in exchange if he wants to get anything accomplished. It’s unlikely that he will be negotiating from as strong a position again.

Sixth, it will now be much harder for Obama to avoid ownership of the economy, having embraced most of the centerpiece of Bush’s economic agenda while adding his own personal stamp. He’s socked new taxes on investors, on small business owners, and on ordinary working people. Nobody forced him to do any of these things. Politically, that’s a double-edged sword (Republicans have a lot of governors up for re-election in 2013 and 2014 who could be innocent bystanders if their states get blindsided by bad federal tax policy), but it is rarely good news for the party in power in the sixth year of a president’s term.

The temporary-tax-cut trap had stuck Beltway Republicans in an uncomfortable morass that was, to a large extent, one of their own devising. They did not emerge unscathed, but at least they have put it behind them, and that creates a lot more flexibility going forward – an important consideration in a party that is largely united on policy but deeply divided on strategy. That’s an opportunity, and no amount of gloom should cause us to lose sight of that.
Enzyte Bob

Columbus, OH

#40 Jan 2, 2013
From Red State:

The Path Forward

Conservatives these days tend to be gloomy about the road ahead, partly due to lack of faith in the GOP’s leadership and establishment and partly due to lack of faith in the electorate. But this is no time to throw in the towel. There is good news here, too, as a number of those quoted above on both sides have noted, and we should not hesitate to celebrate it.

First, the nonsense idea of “temporary” tax policy has hopefully had a fatal stake driven through it: both parties had lauded their ability to deliver temporary tax relief in the past, and must now swallow voter anger that those tax cuts were allowed to expire. One of the golden rules of Washington is that bad policies rarely end until both parties have suffered a downside from them. The only reason for tax policy to be “temporary” in the first place is to game the broken system of budget scoring.

Second, the Democrats have truly conceded far more ground on taxes than the Republicans. The ATR no-tax-hikes pledge was bent and mutilated badly, but not completely broken, given that Republicans accepted the expiry of temporary cuts and did so only after exhausting numerous efforts to save them. But Democrats who spent a decade blaming deficits, the housing crisis, and weeds in your lawn on the Bush Tax Cuts have now delivered the votes to make nearly all of them permanent – something that was unthinkable any time during Bush’s presidency and even as recently as 2010.

Third, the table is set for Republicans in 2014 and especially 2016 to seize anew the initiative on taxes: on broad-based reforms that simplify the code, make it more pro-family, and cut taxes for everyone (possibly even slashing or abolishing the payroll tax)– variations on a platform that worked in 1980 and 2000 and can work again. After four years of bobbing and weaving, Obama now has signed off on raising taxes on nearly everyone, and that is sure to play into the GOP’s natural strengths.

Fourth, the table is also stacked against the Democrats demanding new tax hikes in the next spending battle. Maybe Boehner and McConnell won’t bring much back home in spending cuts – I never really believed that Obama would ever sign off on significant spending cuts or entitlement reform, and I still don’t – but there really is no case at all to be made for returning so soon to the well of tax hikes.

Fifth, the tone is set for Obama’s second term, and while it is hardly a great tone for Republicans, it also signals that Obama will need to either keep his ambitions small, stop demanding Republicans vote for deal-beakers, or start offering them something real in exchange if he wants to get anything accomplished. It’s unlikely that he will be negotiating from as strong a position again.

Sixth, it will now be much harder for Obama to avoid ownership of the economy, having embraced most of the centerpiece of Bush’s economic agenda while adding his own personal stamp. He’s socked new taxes on investors, on small business owners, and on ordinary working people. Nobody forced him to do any of these things. Politically, that’s a double-edged sword (Republicans have a lot of governors up for re-election in 2013 and 2014 who could be innocent bystanders if their states get blindsided by bad federal tax policy), but it is rarely good news for the party in power in the sixth year of a president’s term.

The temporary-tax-cut trap had stuck Beltway Republicans in an uncomfortable morass that was, to a large extent, one of their own devising. They did not emerge unscathed, but at least they have put it behind them, and that creates a lot more flexibility going forward – an important consideration in a party that is largely united on policy but deeply divided on strategy. That’s an opportunity, and no amount of gloom should cause us to lose sight of that.
VADoc

Aiken, SC

#41 Jan 2, 2013
Appalled wrote:
Boohoo boohoo
That's all you GOP do is cry in your beer!
Everyone has to pay their fair share so stop the whining, grow up and face the truth!
What a bunch of sniveling wimps!
Can't always TAKE without paying the piper when the time comes!
Hmmm and how about the 48% who don't pay any taxes each year? When will it be there turn to pay the piper? I've seen them taking a lot from the piper but putting nothing back in. So you would be ok with anyone on the following programs not receiving a tax refund ever again as long as they are still using these services:
Food stamps/SNAP
HUD
Medicaid
HEAP
SSI if younger than the age of 35

Well would you? If you say no then what you meant to say in your above post was that those of us who are already paying the piper need to pay more for the rest who don't.
Appalled

Cleveland, OH

#42 Jan 2, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
Boehner Responds to Reid:'Go F— Yourself'
5:27 AM, JAN 2, 2013 • BY DANIEL HALPER Single PagePrintLarger TextSmaller TextAlerts
John Boehner delivered a sharp response to Harry Reid, who last week accussed the House speaker of running “dictatorship.” The top Republican reportedly told the top Senate Democrat,“Go f— yourself."
“What are you talking about?” Reid repleid, at the White House.
"Go f— yourself," Boehner repeated.
Politico reports on the exchange:
House Speaker John Boehner couldn’t hold back when he spotted Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in the White House lobby last Friday.
It was only a few days before the nation would go over the fiscal cliff, no bipartisan agreement was in sight, and Reid had just publicly accused Boehner of running a “dictatorship” in the House and caring more about holding onto his gavel than striking a deal.
“Go f— yourself,” Boehner sniped as he pointed his finger at Reid, according to multiple sources present.
Reid, a bit startled, replied:“What are you talking about?”
Boehner repeated:“Go f— yourself.”
The harsh exchange just a few steps from the Oval Office — which Boehner later bragged about to fellow Republicans — was only one episode in nearly two months of high-stakes negotiations laced with distrust, miscommunication, false starts and yelling matches as Washington struggled to ward off $500 billion in tax hikes and spending cuts.
Wow, I have to say I am NOT shocked. I just consider the source...doggie wants a BOEHNER?
That's what you call a real leader,an example and oh so much class....NOT!
What jokers...comic relief....
Enzyte Bob

Columbus, OH

#43 Jan 2, 2013
Plenty of leftist sources quoted here:

-Greg Sargent
-Henry Blodget
-Kevin Drum

http://www.redstate.com/2013/01/02/silver-lin...

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