Food-stamp cuts may aid Medicaid

Food-stamp cuts may aid Medicaid

There are 164 comments on the DispatchPolitics story from Aug 4, 2010, titled Food-stamp cuts may aid Medicaid. In it, DispatchPolitics reports that:

To advocates for the poor, it's an impossible choice. The U.S. Senate will attempt to pass a bill today that would provide $26 billion to recession-battered states to help pay for Medicaid costs and avoid teacher layoffs.

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Since: Jun 09

Nashport, OH

#1 Aug 4, 2010
There are very good arguments made on both side of this issue. However the most important fact that was never discussed is: teachers vote and donate money to politicians and poor hungry children can do neither.
older than you

Palm Coast, FL

#2 Aug 4, 2010
YES.... stop these baby making machines and the welfare train..... the question is... who is your daddy
QUIT WASTING TAX MONEY

Columbus, OH

#3 Aug 4, 2010
Let the games with health-care begin. This is just going to be the start now that the gov't has said they will help the poor pay for insurance.

First problem: Paying for the poor...(Medicaid or Insurance supplements)
Coming soon: Extreme waits for a Dr.'s appointment...
greendale

Columbus, OH

#4 Aug 4, 2010
Probably the worst thing we're seeing from our politicians in this recession. When the going gets tough, attack the poorest and most vulnerable !!!

These cuts remind me of when Hunter Group would go through hospitals, cutting $10K expenditures that end up costing the hospital $50K when something goes wrong (something that would not have gone wrong had the $10K not been made).

Today we're slashing assistance for the mentally ill......and tomorrow housing THAT ONE mentally ill patient who's meds were cut will cost us all $50K per year to put THAT ONE patient in a state prison.......but only after we spend $30K treating THAT ONE patient in ER's, having Police & Firefighters deal with them, etc.

Now multiply the above example by 5,000 and you'll get a more likely picture of our future budgets.

ANY TIME you slash funding in one arena, the expense always pops up somewhere else, often times costing several times the amount you slashed to begin with.
greendale

Columbus, OH

#5 Aug 4, 2010
Food costs less today than it did years ago ??? Where are our politicians going food shopping ???

Food "might" cost less if you live in an affluent suburb where you're within 3 minutes of 10 different grocery stores.

But if you live in a "food desert" with unreliable transportation - LIKE MOST POOR PEOPLE DO - then you're not seeing "Meijer prices" on the things that you need. Instead its more like $5 for a $2 jar of peanut butter at "Muhammed Mart" on E Main St.
greendale

Columbus, OH

#6 Aug 4, 2010
to everyone who thinks it's cool attacking food stamp recipients:

Not only do you demonstrate the lowest form of human existence... attacking the poor during the worst recession since the 1930's...

But did you ever wonder why poor people APPEAR to be so lazy ???

IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE HUNGRY AND MALNOURISHED.

Think about how you feel when you haven't eaten well for 2-3 days. Your energy levels are sapped. You're irritable. YOU'RE UNABLE TO CONCENTRATE AND GENERALLY UNPRODUCTIVE.

The goal of our assistance programs SHOULD BE to help people get themselves into a better financial situation so they can join the miserable world of taxpayers like everyone else.

There are plenty of people who made it into the middle class today who USED TO BE on some sort of public assistance in the 1970's. I know several of these people... Today they're doctors, nurses, full time wage earners / TAX PAYERS nearing retirement. They were in a place of need 40 yrs ago and thanks to the programs that existed they were able to live themselves out of that place, paying WAY MORE back into the system than they ever took out.

But it's increasingly looking like today's welfare recipients are forever trapped in a world of need.

* We're not helping them lift themselves out of poverty.
* We're not helping them become taxpayers like the rest of us.
* By PRETENDING to dole out "tough love," we're actually making things worse for everybody in the long run.
brat

Bellefontaine, OH

#7 Aug 4, 2010
if we eliminate the self serving pols at all levels, the funds will exist for these programs. right now it's a case of get elected, line your pockets, get reelected, line the family's pockets.
John Deere Man

Kansas City, MO

#8 Aug 4, 2010
of course take the food away, like we don't have enough starving people in our country, but that's the good ole USA, take care of other countries but let there own people starve and die or get very sick from lack of good food, most hospitals have a fund that will pay your bill if you have a low income, Dr's, will work with you on a payment plan, most anyway. go take care of the illegals, there more important then the AMERICAN PEOPLE

Since: Jul 09

Marion

#9 Aug 4, 2010
I will have to watch what happens with this.
Not this time

Euclid, OH

#10 Aug 4, 2010
Stop giving out tax cuts to the rich and to companies that claim they will create jobs only to send others overseas...there will be plenty of money then to feed the poor...

As for the interim solution, for those of us who have it is time to step up and give to some of the local food pantries to make up the difference.
Uneducated losers

Portsmouth, OH

#11 Aug 4, 2010
Education is the way out of generational poverty--proven fact.
Kids get fed breakfast and lunch 10 months out of the year(government funded through schools)I also know of summer breakfast and lunch programs as well.
Kids are getting fed, parents just aren't doing their part. Before this whole "recession", how were these people surviving, the same exact way. You see, this recession has not affected the poor, it's the middle and upper classes that are feeling the pain. The poor were poor to begin with, but the recession has caused some middle class people to become poor because of the lack of jobs.
Not balanced

Caledonia, OH

#12 Aug 4, 2010
The politicians want to fund something that costs $26 billion by cutting $11 billion from another program. Hey politicians, that doesn't balance. But then again, in our "spend what we don't have" government, this is par for the course.
mark

Columbus, OH

#13 Aug 4, 2010
If you can't feed 'em, don't breed 'em. Simple rule that if more people followed, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Bob

Buford, GA

#14 Aug 4, 2010
Not this time wrote:
Stop giving out tax cuts to the rich and to companies that claim they will create jobs only to send others overseas...there will be plenty of money then to feed the poor...
As for the interim solution, for those of us who have it is time to step up and give to some of the local food pantries to make up the difference.
Then we will have more unemployed needing food. The dems starve the little children to put money into union teachers.
the truth

Doniphan, MO

#15 Aug 4, 2010
OK libs Obama and "the DNC are taking the food out of the children". Hows that hop and change doing for you voting for the left? 90 days to take back America and bring jobs back.
really

Columbus, OH

#16 Aug 4, 2010
Unfortunately this story strikes a familar tone. Advocates for the poor are either bureaucrats or political operatives who are among the country's richest 5% of all wage earners, meaning they make a heck of a lot more than the people they claim to want to help.
As usual, this bill is loaded with tons of pork for supporters, in this case teachers, of the Democratic Party.
To the Dems and the press, there is no difference between tax money and government money. And hey, the Dems certainly won't read their own bills, why should out "watchdog" press (lol)?
pikkil47

Hilliard, OH

#17 Aug 4, 2010
...wonderful, just wonderful...meantime we throw $899 gazillion dollars away in Pakistan and Afganistan in hopes that those mongrel dogs won't keep turning on us ..... man, this makes me tired.
Work for it

Westerville, OH

#18 Aug 4, 2010
greendale wrote:
to everyone who thinks it's cool attacking food stamp recipients:
Not only do you demonstrate the lowest form of human existence... attacking the poor during the worst recession since the 1930's...
But did you ever wonder why poor people APPEAR to be so lazy ???
IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE HUNGRY AND MALNOURISHED.
Think about how you feel when you haven't eaten well for 2-3 days. Your energy levels are sapped. You're irritable. YOU'RE UNABLE TO CONCENTRATE AND GENERALLY UNPRODUCTIVE.
The goal of our assistance programs SHOULD BE to help people get themselves into a better financial situation so they can join the miserable world of taxpayers like everyone else.
There are plenty of people who made it into the middle class today who USED TO BE on some sort of public assistance in the 1970's. I know several of these people... Today they're doctors, nurses, full time wage earners / TAX PAYERS nearing retirement. They were in a place of need 40 yrs ago and thanks to the programs that existed they were able to live themselves out of that place, paying WAY MORE back into the system than they ever took out.
But it's increasingly looking like today's welfare recipients are forever trapped in a world of need.
* We're not helping them lift themselves out of poverty.
* We're not helping them become taxpayers like the rest of us.
* By PRETENDING to dole out "tough love," we're actually making things worse for everybody in the long run.
Major flaws here. Welfare recipients for the majority do not want to work. They also know how to game the system to get more money with more children.
Welfare recipients get adequate amounts of money and WIC to support these children they bring into the world. These kids get free breakfast, lunches and after school care with snacks. While the parent (s) do not work. WRONG>
I say drug test (include alcohol and tobacco) all welfare recipients and require them to work in some position to earn their welfare checks. They can pick up trash on the highways, clean government buildings or schools or answer phones. There has to be some way to get them involved so they just don't stay home and breed.
All they want is more, more and more. Just stop this nonsense.
liberated

Columbus, OH

#19 Aug 4, 2010
greendale wrote:
to everyone who thinks it's cool attacking food stamp recipients:
Not only do you demonstrate the lowest form of human existence... attacking the poor during the worst recession since the 1930's...
But did you ever wonder why poor people APPEAR to be so lazy ???
IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE HUNGRY AND MALNOURISHED.
Think about how you feel when you haven't eaten well for 2-3 days. Your energy levels are sapped. You're irritable. YOU'RE UNABLE TO CONCENTRATE AND GENERALLY UNPRODUCTIVE.
The goal of our assistance programs SHOULD BE to help people get themselves into a better financial situation so they can join the miserable world of taxpayers like everyone else.
There are plenty of people who made it into the middle class today who USED TO BE on some sort of public assistance in the 1970's. I know several of these people... Today they're doctors, nurses, full time wage earners / TAX PAYERS nearing retirement. They were in a place of need 40 yrs ago and thanks to the programs that existed they were able to live themselves out of that place, paying WAY MORE back into the system than they ever took out.
But it's increasingly looking like today's welfare recipients are forever trapped in a world of need.
* We're not helping them lift themselves out of poverty.
* We're not helping them become taxpayers like the rest of us.
* By PRETENDING to dole out "tough love," we're actually making things worse for everybody in the long run.
Hey DELUSIONAL:
Everyone who breathes the air has NEEDS, people need to take care of their own house and STOP passing the buck to people who are not responsible for this crap!
Work for it

Westerville, OH

#20 Aug 4, 2010
Not this time wrote:
Stop giving out tax cuts to the rich and to companies that claim they will create jobs only to send others overseas...there will be plenty of money then to feed the poor...
As for the interim solution, for those of us who have it is time to step up and give to some of the local food pantries to make up the difference.
So you want the little guys like middle America to keep paying for the parasites that will not work and want more?

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