VERDICT REACHED! Zimmerman
They cannot kill a spook

Taylor, MI

#105 Jul 15, 2013
WISE AMERICAN wrote:
<quoted text> Those laws were specifically structured to allow whites in that state to legally shoot black people who they deem as a threat, without the worry of being prosecuted and sent to prison! Remember the cases of car jackings in south Florida years ago? The Republicans got these 'stand your ground' measures passed.
But bigots have used this law to their advantage! The legislature don't want to keep stats on who is using this law to their advantage because that would expose this 'law ' for what its true intention is.
Damn. He figured it out all Whites and Asians got together and said if we can't own a black how about killing them? Then some smart jew lawyer stood up and said try Stand your ground laws, when those black thugs come lurking stealing tearing up things you no longer will have to let them you can just shoot them.

That is how you figure it isn't it dumb american.

Since: Jan 12

United States

#106 Jul 15, 2013
BizzyBee wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, but today he said he will not interfere with the Justice Dept. should they make a decision to prosecute GZ.
Of course he won't.
This whole mess will be around for a long time.
The press instigates with their prodding headlines, and the blacks will be relentless crying for justice.
OY!
I guarantee that millions of young black suburban males who have never been involved in crime or don't subscribe to the thug mentality want access to a gun now. I can also guarantee that their are bigoted white men in the suburbs who won't think twice about stopping and harassing black teens walking in those neighborhoods.

A armed bigot who has had six beers on a Friday night that is offended by a group of black teens crossing in front of his vehicle, will be more emboldened to confront those teens.

This verdict set a bad precedent.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#107 Jul 15, 2013
Free Pizza 4 U wrote:
<quoted text>
I am so tired of hearing about "Stand your ground".
OK WA, please explain how the Castle doctrine (aka stand your ground) is relevant in a discussion of the ZIMMERMAN TRIAL.
1. The stand your ground defense / hearing was waived by the defense.
2. Zimmerman's plea was not guilty.
3. He was found not guilty by reason of JUSTIFIABLE SELF DEFENSE.
All 50 states (or for Obama supporters all 57 states) have a version of a justifiable self defense statute on their books.
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com...
Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground are not the same thing.

Since: Jan 12

United States

#108 Jul 15, 2013
They cannot kill a spook wrote:
<quoted text>
Damn. He figured it out all Whites and Asians got together and said if we can't own a black how about killing them? Then some smart jew lawyer stood up and said try Stand your ground laws, when those black thugs come lurking stealing tearing up things you no longer will have to let them you can just shoot them.
That is how you figure it isn't it dumb american.
What is so far fetched about that? Legal shooting of a black teen ...ain't that what Zimmerman did! You people don't think that those laws were passed because of crimes committed by black thugs then you are stupid and in denial!

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#109 Jul 15, 2013
Free Pizza 4 U wrote:
<quoted text>
I am so tired of hearing about "Stand your ground".
OK WA, please explain how the Castle doctrine (aka stand your ground) is relevant in a discussion of the ZIMMERMAN TRIAL.
1. The stand your ground defense / hearing was waived by the defense.
2. Zimmerman's plea was not guilty.
3. He was found not guilty by reason of JUSTIFIABLE SELF DEFENSE.
All 50 states (or for Obama supporters all 57 states) have a version of a justifiable self defense statute on their books.
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com...
Right. The unusual thing about Florida isn't the stand your ground law, it's the onus on the prosecution to prove it wasn't self-defense. Most states require the defendant to prove that it was.

-Clayton Bigsby

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#110 Jul 15, 2013
WISE AMERICAN wrote:
<quoted text> I guarantee that millions of young black suburban males who have never been involved in crime or don't subscribe to the thug mentality want access to a gun now. I can also guarantee that their are bigoted white men in the suburbs who won't think twice about stopping and harassing black teens walking in those neighborhoods.
A armed bigot who has had six beers on a Friday night that is offended by a group of black teens crossing in front of his vehicle, will be more emboldened to confront those teens.
This verdict set a bad precedent.
It didn't set any precedent unless you count the degree of corruption and race baiting by the prosecution and their masters.
Self defense has been a recognized legal defense for a very long time. This trial blazed no new trails in that area.

“MAGA”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#111 Jul 15, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground are not the same thing.
Would you care to explain how the stand your ground law is relevant to the Zimmerman trial?

“MAGA”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#112 Jul 15, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground are not the same thing.
read slowly lawyer

http://pjmedia.com/blog/florida%E2%80%99s-cas...

At stake is Florida’s so-called “stand your ground” law. There is no such standalone law. The law to which so many have referred without knowledge of the text or meaning is a common “Castle Doctrine” law in chapter 776 of the 2011 Florida Statutes. It reads (emphasis mine):

776.013&#8195;Home protection; use of deadly force; presumption of fear of death or great bodily harm.—

(1) A person is presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another when using defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm to another if:

(a) The person against whom the defensive force was used was and forcibly entered, a dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle, or if that person had removed or was attempting to remove another against that person’s will from the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle; and

(b) The person who uses defensive force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry or unlawful and forcible act was occurring or had occurred.

(2) The presumption set forth in subsection (1) does not apply if:

(a) The person against whom the defensive force is used has the right to be in or is a lawful resident of the dwelling, residence, or vehicle, such as an owner, lessee, or titleholder, and there is not an injunction for protection from domestic violence or a written pretrial supervision order of no contact against that person; or

(b) The person or persons sought to be removed is a child or grandchild, or is otherwise in the lawful custody or under the lawful guardianship of, the person against whom the defensive force is used; or

(c) The person who uses defensive force is engaged in an unlawful activity or is using the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle to further an unlawful activity; or

(d) The person against whom the defensive force is used is a law enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(14), who enters or attempts to enter a dwelling, residence, or vehicle in the performance of his or her official duties and the officer identified himself or herself in accordance with any applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably should have known that the person entering or attempting to enter was a law enforcement officer.

(3) A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.

(4)&#8195;A person who unlawfully and by force enters or attempts to enter a person’s dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle is presumed to be doing so with the intent to commit an unlawful act involving forc
vncnz12

Akron, OH

#113 Jul 15, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
You hate women and motherhood, eh?
No I like INTELLIGENT and pretty women not stupid sheeplike people regardless of gender that can be convinced that wrong is right by a well spoken ambulance chasing defense attorney.and what the hell does motherhood have to do with anything? I brought up the Casey Antony case where everyone involved was white and where another moronic jury found the woman who killed her child not guilty. The other day three kids dressed in Gothic clothes with mowhawk hair walked by my house to go to one of the kid's home. It did not bother me in the least. according to your small minded provincial mind I suppose I should have approached them give them a bunch of crap and shoot one of them? because that is exactly what happened in this case. Trayvon Martin was walking to his father's house but due to the facty that he looked "different" he was harassed by Zimmerman, a wannabe Gestapo cop and a fight ensued where someone origionally minding their own business got killed.

Since: Jan 12

United States

#114 Jul 15, 2013
Free Pizza 4 U wrote:
<quoted text>
I am so tired of hearing about "Stand your ground".
OK WA, please explain how the Castle doctrine (aka stand your ground) is relevant in a discussion of the ZIMMERMAN TRIAL.
1. The stand your ground defense / hearing was waived by the defense.
2. Zimmerman's plea was not guilty.
3. He was found not guilty by reason of JUSTIFIABLE SELF DEFENSE.
All 50 states (or for Obama supporters all 57 states) have a version of a justifiable self defense statute on their books.
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com...
The Castle doctrine has nothing to do with anything outside your home or car.

Zimmerman wanted to detain Trayvon until the cops came, but he was punched. He was WRONG! Zimmerman said himself he reached in his pocket after asking Trayvon why was he there.

The kid freaked out probably thinking Zimmerman was going for a weapon. Instinct kicked in, and Trayvon was killed by an over zealous wannabe cop.
I dare a goon to walk up on me in the dark of night, in the rain, reaching into his pocket ...what would YOU do?

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#115 Jul 15, 2013
vncnz12 wrote:
<quoted text>No I like INTELLIGENT and pretty women not stupid sheeplike people regardless of gender that can be convinced that wrong is right by a well spoken ambulance chasing defense attorney.and what the hell does motherhood have to do with anything? I brought up the Casey Antony case where everyone involved was white and where another moronic jury found the woman who killed her child not guilty. The other day three kids dressed in Gothic clothes with mowhawk hair walked by my house to go to one of the kid's home. It did not bother me in the least. according to your small minded provincial mind I suppose I should have approached them give them a bunch of crap and shoot one of them? because that is exactly what happened in this case. Trayvon Martin was walking to his father's house but due to the facty that he looked "different" he was harassed by Zimmerman, a wannabe Gestapo cop and a fight ensued where someone origionally minding their own business got killed.
The state must prove its case.
It did not.

By the way, Trayvon's knuckles did not mind their own business.

-Clayton Bigsby

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#116 Jul 15, 2013
vncnz12 wrote:
<quoted text>No I like INTELLIGENT and pretty women not stupid sheeplike people regardless of gender that can be convinced that wrong is right by a well spoken ambulance chasing defense attorney.and what the hell does motherhood have to do with anything? I brought up the Casey Antony case where everyone involved was white and where another moronic jury found the woman who killed her child not guilty. The other day three kids dressed in Gothic clothes with mowhawk hair walked by my house to go to one of the kid's home. It did not bother me in the least. according to your small minded provincial mind I suppose I should have approached them give them a bunch of crap and shoot one of them? because that is exactly what happened in this case. Trayvon Martin was walking to his father's house but due to the facty that he looked "different" he was harassed by Zimmerman, a wannabe Gestapo cop and a fight ensued where someone origionally minding their own business got killed.
You watched a different trial from the rest of us. Zimmerman was unsure of Ashtray's race when he was on the phone with the dispatcher. The lead investigator testified that Zimmerman displayed no racial animosity.
The DOJ is unlikely to pursue a federal case because the FBI found the same thing last year.
The house wasn't the father's...it was the father's girlfriend's house and Tracy Martin was told to vacate because he wasn't on the lease.

Since: Jan 12

United States

#117 Jul 15, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>It didn't set any precedent unless you count the degree of corruption and race baiting by the prosecution and their masters.
Self defense has been a recognized legal defense for a very long time. This trial blazed no new trails in that area.
I reiterate, black teens are scared in suburban neighborhoods now. Probably for the first time in their lives. Many will be sneaking their father's guns out the house for real or perceived danger. Thanks to all the burglars and Mr. Zimmerman!

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#118 Jul 15, 2013
Americans can't go around assaulting each other because they feel "disrespected."
If someone called me "creepy ass cracka" all day long, I have no right to physically assault him.

http://www.complex.com/city-guide/2013/07/man...

Note who was arrested and charged with assault.
If the injured drunk dies, Mr. Reddish will face charges in his death.

“MAGA”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#119 Jul 15, 2013
WISE AMERICAN wrote:
<quoted text> Those laws were specifically structured to allow whites in that state to legally shoot black people who they deem as a threat, without the worry of being prosecuted and sent to prison! Remember the cases of car jackings in south Florida years ago? The Republicans got these 'stand your ground' measures passed.
But bigots have used this law to their advantage! The legislature don't want to keep stats on who is using this law to their advantage because that would expose this 'law ' for what its true intention is.
I am not going to allow your BS deflection so I will respond to your original post.

Again, Please explain how the STAND YOUR GROUND law is applicable to the Zimmerman case.

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#120 Jul 15, 2013
WISE AMERICAN wrote:
<quoted text> I reiterate, black teens are scared in suburban neighborhoods now. Probably for the first time in their lives. Many will be sneaking their father's guns out the house for real or perceived danger. Thanks to all the burglars and Mr. Zimmerman!
Bullshit.
In a CCW state, every citizen should assume that every other citizen is armed.
For law-abiding folks, there is reassurance -- not fear -- in that fact.

“MAGA”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#121 Jul 15, 2013
WISE AMERICAN wrote:
<quoted text> The Castle doctrine has nothing to do with anything outside your home or car.
Zimmerman wanted to detain Trayvon until the cops came, but he was punched. He was WRONG! Zimmerman said himself he reached in his pocket after asking Trayvon why was he there.
The kid freaked out probably thinking Zimmerman was going for a weapon. Instinct kicked in, and Trayvon was killed by an over zealous wannabe cop.
I dare a goon to walk up on me in the dark of night, in the rain, reaching into his pocket ...what would YOU do?
see my post 112
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#122 Jul 15, 2013
Free Pizza 4 U wrote:
<quoted text>
Would you care to explain how the stand your ground law is relevant to the Zimmerman trial?
No.

Would you care to explain why when I pointed out that Ohio's Castle Doctrine is not the same as Florida's stand your ground you asked the question you did?

Since: Jan 12

United States

#123 Jul 15, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>You watched a different trial from the rest of us. Zimmerman was unsure of Ashtray's race when he was on the phone with the dispatcher. The lead investigator testified that Zimmerman displayed no racial animosity.
The DOJ is unlikely to pursue a federal case because the FBI found the same thing last year.
The house wasn't the father's...it was the father's girlfriend's house and Tracy Martin was told to vacate because he wasn't on the lease.
He knew Martin was black, even from behind with the hoodie on! You're a fool to believe any different.

-Clayton Bigsby

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#124 Jul 15, 2013
WISE AMERICAN wrote:
<quoted text> I reiterate, black teens are scared in suburban neighborhoods now. Probably for the first time in their lives. Many will be sneaking their father's guns out the house for real or perceived danger. Thanks to all the burglars and Mr. Zimmerman!
Black teens in suburban neighborhoods that are their homes aren't afraid. They belong there and I doubt more than 5% of them even come close to the thug behavior of Ashtray.

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