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Cleavon Little

Since: Sep 12

Hilliard, OH

#43 Oct 8, 2012
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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But if you read the article in Business Week (or Forbes?), the RINO's in the business community gave him the go ahead. That's the way it has always worked around here.
And those clowns either live within the city limits or are HQ'd in a suburb. Mike Curtin comes to mind as one of the former, while JMac Jr is one of the latter.
Enzyte Bob

Blacklick, OH

#44 Oct 8, 2012
Tim wrote:
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I seem to remember Florida and Texas adding several million people over the space of a decade.
They have no income tax.
Funny how that works.
And almost 11% of the people down there live in double wides. I'd rather have taxes and Dublin and New Albany, than no taxes and rednecks.

http://www.statemaster.com/graph/hou_per_of_h...
Tim

Wellington, OH

#45 Oct 8, 2012
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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And almost 11% of the people down there live in double wides. I'd rather have taxes and Dublin and New Albany, than no taxes and rednecks.
http://www.statemaster.com/graph/hou_per_of_h...
Is there anyone you don't hate?

NINE STATES have no income tax. The other 41 don't need it, but public unions do.
Enzyte Bob

Blacklick, OH

#46 Oct 8, 2012
Tim wrote:
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Is there anyone you don't hate?
NINE STATES have no income tax. The other 41 don't need it, but public unions do.
If you want to live in a trailer park, be my guest. I would rather have nice surroundings. Don't care about the taxes as long as I get something for my money.

Nordstroms and Whole Foods aren't cheap, but a lot of people shop there.

Cheap is for people without money. Value is what it's all about and we get plenty of value from our local governments around here.
notlocal

AOL

#47 Oct 8, 2012
Cleavon Little wrote:
It is so over for Obama. Lock and load for the riots come November 7.
I think you're right, Bud, and thank God I live in the country where we keep our guns loaded.

10PM Monday - Pew has Romney up by 4

But center city Philly...gonna be ugly and dangerous.
notlocal

AOL

#48 Oct 8, 2012
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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At the end of the day, Bush wasn't much different than Barry. Bush was a C-student, also undisciplined in his early years and didn't have much of a resume to speak of. Neither were particularly hard workers. Bush was at his ranch in Crawford as much as Barry plays golf.
HOWEVER, Bush was a voracious reader, Bush "found himself" and became highly disciplined in middle age AND had a near photographic memory when it came to names and faces. He was the consummate example of someone with a high level of emotional intelligence (a people person) as opposed to a bookworm.
Mitt Romney is light years ahead of either of these two, both from the standpoint of personal discipline, hard work and personal achievement.
I agree. Just want to know when we can stop talking about Bush. Who, by the way had much more respect for the office and American people than Obama will ever muster.
Tim

Dalton, OH

#49 Oct 8, 2012
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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If you want to live in a trailer park, be my guest. I would rather have nice surroundings. Don't care about the taxes as long as I get something for my money.
Nordstroms and Whole Foods aren't cheap, but a lot of people shop there.
Cheap is for people without money. Value is what it's all about and we get plenty of value from our local governments around here.
Your taxes are high because of public sector unions, and they are ripping you off, and then funding Dhims who promise further tax increases.
Enzyte Bob

Blacklick, OH

#50 Oct 8, 2012
Tim wrote:
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Your taxes are high because of public sector unions, and they are ripping you off, and then funding Dhims who promise further tax increases.
My taxes are actually pretty reasonable.

But people like you who talk cheap all the time have about as little a clue as the unions goons who think they should get automatic 3% raises every year.

Remember all those Warehouse Food Stores that sprouted up in the 1970's? How many of them are still around? Valu King opened 2 stores, one closed within weeks of opening. And how many stripper cars do you see on car dealer lots? I can think of endless examples of the same phenomenon.

PEOPLE DON'T WANT CHEAP and that includes taxes and government services.
Tim

Dalton, OH

#51 Oct 8, 2012
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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My taxes are actually pretty reasonable.
But people like you who talk cheap all the time have about as little a clue as the unions goons who think they should get automatic 3% raises every year.
Remember all those Warehouse Food Stores that sprouted up in the 1970's? How many of them are still around? Valu King opened 2 stores, one closed within weeks of opening. And how many stripper cars do you see on car dealer lots? I can think of endless examples of the same phenomenon.
PEOPLE DON'T WANT CHEAP and that includes taxes and government services.
They are reasonable because you are in the top bracket and can eat it. It's like the people in Orange and Beachwood who mostly send their kids to private school and will vote YES on all levies to keep the peons happy. Both districts spend in excess of 17K/student because they get revenue from people not using the system. The people there are rich enough to not care.

Now down here in Medina County, we aren't that rich, but we have the same union problem that wants the same salaries as Orange/Beachwood. We do have the "trailer trash" but that's only out in the Black River district which is mostly farms anyways. Our problem is the growing apartment units and Section 8, which are the result of high tax, high service environments.

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displ...

Just from the New England graph, the worst of the states to live in, Maine (not my opinion, but quality of life factors, I consider VT politics far worse), has the highest tax rate.

Of course you have a point with Alabama, generally not the greatest place with the lowest tax%.

But is Kali rationally doing better than Oregon? Utah? Colorado?

Obviously not considering migration patterns.
Enzyte Bob

Blacklick, OH

#52 Oct 8, 2012
Tim wrote:
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They are reasonable because you are in the top bracket and can eat it. It's like the people in Orange and Beachwood who mostly send their kids to private school and will vote YES on all levies to keep the peons happy. Both districts spend in excess of 17K/student because they get revenue from people not using the system. The people there are rich enough to not care.
I don't live in a "rich" area, I live in an ever-so-slightly upper brow section of Columbus.

I don't want "high" taxes. I also don't want "low" taxes and no parks, no bike trails, no sidewalks, crappy looking roads, a crappy downtown, ancient freeways, etc.

Ever drive down I-70 in Pa or even in Indiana, for that matter? It's been awhile since I've been east of here, but the last time I was on I-70 ... tight shoulders, two lanes ... straight out of the 1950's.

Trust me on this one. PEOPLE DON'T WANT CHEAP! I am cheap and even I don't want cheap.
Tim

Dalton, OH

#53 Oct 8, 2012
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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I don't live in a "rich" area, I live in an ever-so-slightly upper brow section of Columbus.
I don't want "high" taxes. I also don't want "low" taxes and no parks, no bike trails, no sidewalks, crappy looking roads, a crappy downtown, ancient freeways, etc.
Ever drive down I-70 in Pa or even in Indiana, for that matter? It's been awhile since I've been east of here, but the last time I was on I-70 ... tight shoulders, two lanes ... straight out of the 1950's.
Trust me on this one. PEOPLE DON'T WANT CHEAP! I am cheap and even I don't want cheap.
If you live in Columbus, you are overtaxed. The unions have a siphon on your wallet.

Recreation is not a responsibility of the state, it is either the for-profit or non-profit private sector.

Roads are a legitimate responsibility, but the reason they cost so much is once again, unions.

The NY Thruway is about the same quality as the PA turnpike, despite costing more.

The Ohio turnpike is better than both, it is very well run, and even I have to admit that privitization would do nothing good.

The bigger question to us is that due to the schools (unions) driving up property taxes, the road levies are almost always voted down, which leaves our roads (Brunswick) like crap.

Of course the fact that the city dumped six figures on new signage didn't help.

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